r/weightlifting • u/lum3n_7 • 2d ago
Form check What do I need to work on the most?
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I've been stagnating around this weight for a few months now. Tips would be appreciated
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u/ConferenceHelpful510 1d ago
Consistency might be a bit of an issue. It’s a bit hard to tell with the fade between the last two, but it looked to me like your hips start higher every attempt. Especially in that last snatch.
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u/amouthforwar 1d ago
Any particular reason why you start with such a narrow stance? I think it's putting you into a strange start position, making your first pull a little off which is creating inconsistencies further along in the pull as weight gets heavier / the reps go on (Mainly you end up way too far over the bar as you transition passed the knee, compromising second pull positions -- most visible on the missed attempt). You seem like a pretty long limbed guy for your frame, I don't know if a narrow stance like that is ideal based on your leverages IMO.
Someone's recommendation for no-foot snatches is sound, but I would pair that with trying to do NF snatches with a stance more shoulder width apart. See how it feels for you.
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u/lum3n_7 1d ago
Yeah the stance might also be a big issue. I start with a narrow stance because that’s where I feel most powerful and slide my feet into my squat stance. Which is also pretty narrow but that’s what feels most comfortable. Maybe I need to experiment with that too. But yeah I know for nf snatch you have to start in your squat stance
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u/TrenHard-LiftClen 1d ago
I think you'll benefit from above the knee bkock snatches. Your second pull could be a little more aggressive.
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u/lum3n_7 1d ago
I think I tend to dial back the aggression throughout the session because of the bar banging on my pelvis. It starts to hurt after a while and I've no idea how to avoid it.
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u/Duathdaert 1d ago edited 1d ago
You need to learn how to jump upwards with the bar and not hit the bar with your pelvis /hips then. Aggression and intent really gets more important as you get heavier not less.
No feet snatches could help. No contacts for warm ups might help. Hip muscle snatches starting with your elbows moving as well.
On top of that I'd probably be looking at some blocks of
atk hang snatches, focus on jumping with the bar and using your legs
followed by btk hangs
followed by snatch high pull + snatch
Ultimately the focus is to rebuild the pattern of snatching so that you jump with the bar, give it time to float and then use your traps + elbows to pull under the bar and punch into the bottom position.
If you have a coach they should be working on this with you.
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u/lum3n_7 1d ago
That's great advice, thank you! I do tend to bang the bar a lot less with hang snatches so maybe tempo snatch could also be of use
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u/Duathdaert 1d ago
I'd probably avoid tempos for now. You need to fix bigger problems.
Tempos really I think are better for more advanced lifters for increasing specific positional fatigue and making them work harder to keep good form. But the prerequisite to tempos is good and consistent form.
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u/94KiloSlamBars 1d ago
Honestly I’d say just reps and timing.. seems like you want to catch a little high and ride it down. Gotta get comfortable with catching in the bottom so you’re not forced there on heavier attempts., I would suggest full snatches in your warmups. Take out the powers.. I took a couple years off after retired competition and I am in kinda the same spot now.. used to catch everything in the bottom without ever thinking about it. Now for some unknown reason to me I catch a bit high like right at parallel then sink into the bottom. I would have to assume it’s tightness and just getting older.. yeah man maybe look into some hip mobility and just rep out your timing
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u/lum3n_7 1d ago
Interesting. To catch in the bottom that basically means I have to cut my extension short right? Or pull with less power? Kinda hard to do when the weight feels heavy lol
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u/chattycatty416 1d ago
No. You need to master the 3rd pull or rather push. You should be actively using the elevation of the bar and then driving up against as you drive yourself down. However you asked what you should do first and that is really work that positional pulling strength. You need that to stay over the bar with lats engaged, pulling the bar in, to keep the bar path straight so that you can drive the bar up without the pelvis hump. This will allow the bar path to be more consistent and that will help you be able to move on to master the 3rd pull.
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u/Aromatic-Argument515 1d ago
Has nothing to do with your extension or pulling power. If all of your snatches look like this video, i bet you could add another 15 kilos to your max if you get all the way down to the bottom when you catch. Right now you are catching them like powers and then riding them down to the bottom
I’d recommend working drop snatches as a primer before every snatch workout. Snatch balances could be pretty beneficial too
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u/94KiloSlamBars 1d ago
No you don’t cut anything besides the force you put into the bar this is the timing.. catching a barbell in the bottom vs 60kg is just manipulating the power
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u/VipeholmsCola 1d ago
Whats your max squat? 170?
I think your limited by strength. Your lifts are okay but as always, theres stuff to work on. I think you should try to start lower with your butt and hang over the bar longer, it would give you more power on extension.
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u/Duathdaert 1d ago
In what world is a 170 squat the limiting factor to a 90 snatch?
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u/VipeholmsCola 1d ago
If its below that number he could get higher squat to get the lift done
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u/Duathdaert 1d ago
Or he could fix his form and work towards a 110+ snatch whilst also improving his squat?
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u/Financial_Style_0934 1d ago
Do some no-feet snatches, bar is coming away from you causing you to jump forward on heavier attempts. This will keep the bar closer and with you for longer instead of pulling and dropping.