It’s not “blocking access”, it’s that the argument that kids should have their phones in school because there might be a school shooter is a bad argument. The impact to their education is massive and the benefit in a shooting scenario is almost non existent.

Like I cannot believe when looking at the cost-benefit analysis of cell phones in school, someone would think that all the tangible negatives are worth it for a set of minimally beneficial hypotheticals

Sure, they are important topics. Doesn’t mean Rowe is the person that I need to hear them from. Just because opinions are important doesn’t mean I have to take two hours to hear someone’s opinion. If I wanna talk about partisanship and the media landscape, why would I go to Rowe?

Some people just want to infantilize non Europeans and act like they can only be exploited by westerners

Many people in many places throughout human history have not commodified land. Feel free to look it up if this is what he first you’ve heard of it.

Dude I’ve heard all the excuses. It’s true sometimes, it’s a lie sometimes. If you can’t accept that kids are manipulative from time to time, you simply don’t understand human development. It is ludicrous to tell a teacher who deals with this daily that kids always use the bathroom policies honestly and responsibly lmao

Idc that you are mandated to be there. You aren’t unique, every adult did it too. Part of what you learn is there are consequences to abusing responsibilities and “i can make it up later” is not an excuse to abuse responsibilities in ways your supervisor can easily notice. You wanna learn that in school or at work?

If you’re gonna try reignite a year old comment, don’t bring out stale arguments like this.

Depends on how you are defining “ownership”. Seeing it as a commodity as the Europeans did is definitely not a prevalent belief. Mostly rights to land were around access to the land and its resources, not a commodity to trade

It’s quite different when the two parties have conceptual differences of “land ownership”. Europeans did not fairy acquire the land in a manner that the natives would have agreed to (often times) because in so many beliefs, one could not own land. That was exploitative.

If you sell land rights to someone who sees land rights and something to sell and own and you aren’t subjecting them to military force, seems like it’s economics. They don’t have to sell to foreigners if they don’t want to and they know how to legislate to make it impossible. They choose to sell to foreigners, it’s not duplicitous. Is it exploitation to purchase something someone is selling at market value?

I think part of it is these facts are things that were normally taught at home and not explicitly in school. Like I knew my left and right, my north and south, sooooo many things from my parents supplementing my education and talking with me a lot

We can all see where the parents heads are at, but uh yeah did that scenario need parents running around inside the building?

The cops failed in that scenario and is in no way validation for phones. Phones would not have made the police act better

They don’t believe in American excellence. At all. They don’t like our brilliant people, they don’t like our experts, they don’t like us spending money on the world because we can roll like that. They don’t care for our national parks or unique plants/animals.

On one hand, I get it. Life under this capitalism can be hard. It’s painful. Hard to tell a story of excellence when you can’t afford shit and most of the foreign policy decisions in for a generation have been a disaster.

On the other hand, i don’t understand why they use all their political power making it worse

There’s knowledge and wisdom. You are smart enough to know your rights, you are not wise enough to keep your lips shut around the cops.

Feel free to liberally slather your next interaction with a cop in your rights. Imma just stfu and watch

Sure, they do. They could maybe even win a lawsuit. I don’t always feel the need to test my civil liberties, just as I don’t feel the need to assert my right of way when I’m crossing the street

Sometimes the juice ain’t worth the squeeze, and I’m not sure antagonizing a cop is a good use of my speech even if it would be consequence free.

I mean, I guarantee this is what their teachers told them in gonna happen. Some kids are immune to consequences growing up because their parents see their kids as friends and will defend them tooth and nail from getting punished at school

This is possibly the end product. If you don’t believe your actions have consequences, you just might act like that around a cop. It’s not about right and wrong, it’s just about what is true. Not everyone can be controlled like a public school teacher, and some cops suck at deescalation. Call me a coward, I don’t feel the need to test my civil liberties against a pissed cop with an ego.

I’m not saying it’s wrong. I’m not saying it’s right. I’m saying I don’t care and this same discussion happens like every two weeks on like every platform

Im saying I don’t want to waste my time, and that is a mistake for Carlin to waste his time on it. The discussion it has generated on this sub is a rehash of a stale discussion. even if users discuss the actual interview, it’s an even more worn out discussion.

Like, I’d rather discuss this with you despite our pretty shit start than listen to the same shit on a different day. At least it’s novel.

They are suddenly quite ok with admitting the economy was good under Biden, but it was a mirage and now they can admit Trump will be bad for the economy, but it’s actually a good thing

They are so convinced that other nations are fucking us but are fine listening to the oligarchs who made these international deals in the first place

Tucker said it himself. Daddy’s home and he’s gonna give them a vigorous spanking.

They are very kink/abuse coded.

Never said he shouldn’t talk to him, I just don’t need to listen to a long ass podcast that doesn’t add anything to the discussion, which is completely validated by the people who listened to it and fairly reported back what was said in good faith.

You wanna spend that time listening to rowes sophomoric understanding of labor? You do you. I will not blame anyone for skipping when there are so many better conversations on the issue of labor.

At the end of the day, Carlin is normally #1 when he drops. He has to choose a pretty bad guest for him not to be worth my full attention.

Agreed. It’s mostly work ethic and habits. I think one thing you’re dismissing a little too much though: development. Kids are like 8 years away from having a fully developed brain when we are having them choose trades, college, and the rest. I firmly believe we need to make the consequences of making a mistake between 18-26 less deterministic. Having more service options that expand their perceptions would be a worthy investment along with decreasing student debt

It is entertaining me, but definitely not enlightening. I just respond to what’s in my inbox unless they need blocking. Which I would credit you in that not being a problem

Based on what we’ve seen in the digital learning experiments I think you are vastly underestimating the value of on site learning. Online is good for credentials, but you miss a lot when you aren’t physically collaborating and discussing

The debt is the problem. Our society is better when we invest in higher eduction and not simply see it as just economics.

Autocorrect boomed me.

I also think it’s a stand in for the larger culture war. What academia means and what trades means are larger than just economic advice

For sure, there are a lot of physical and mental skills needed to be successful in many trades. I wish students looking for an easy path would know that as clearly as many adults do

Job shadowing should be more common

I assume it’s because you think you’re so enlightening to me?

iM aLlOwEd To CoMmEnT wHeReVeR i WaNt

It is still true that the overall lifetime earnings of a college grad is still better than someone without a college degree. Not true for all fields for all people, but it is a worthy investment for a lot of people. The message needed correcting. But we have definitely over corrected

He’s also just wrong that it was a left thing. Bush oversaw the increasing and streamlining federal student loans. They also relaxed regulations that allowed for a massive expansion of for profit scams.

Republicans simply started bashing academia for its cultural influence, as we produced the most educated generation of history by pushing college so hard. But they clearly supported the economic message on both sides, and that’s completely undercut if you don’t also support unions.