Yes this is his plan. He said China panicked and made the wrong move with their own tariffs, because in his mind the right move was to come groveling and he’d lift the tariffs and claim the success. But instead the world is calling his bluff and is going to realize they don’t need us and the market will rise but not at the rate or levels it once was. America has forever lost its place in the global standings of commerce, politics, and respect
That’s what I said. They’re calling his bluff and not participating with him anymore and forging relationships that don’t involve us, forever compromising our position in the world
I'm an Aussie - Australia is probably America's most reliable ally. We also host the most important US base outside the US (Pine Gap) which supplies the data for a large part of the world and can reportedly launch a second strike if US bases are taken out. We also host the ELF base allowing communication with US submarines and host B52s and Marines. We were also planning a massive purchase of American submarines to go with our F35s etc. Trump has hit us with tariffs despite the massive trade deficit in favour of the US but what is more stupid is that he has hit one of our inhabited islands with a much larger tariff and 2 of our uninhabited islands near the Antarctic with big tariffs. I guess Trump doesn't realise those islands are part of Australia and also doesn't want the penguins trading with him. (They're the only things living on those islands.)
It's only a matter of time before our government comes to the realisation that the US is both unreliable as an ally and a failing democracy heading into authoritarianism. We've seen what he's doing to Canada and NATO. That's when we'll have to pull the plug on the relationship and close those bases. The 5 Eyes (Echelon) relationship has been the greatest intelligence network in history but why would we keep it going if Trump sends the product to his mentor Putin?
I've said this a couple of times. If Americans wanted to elect a clown, we have to be ready for the whole circus. If we want to hurt the rest of the world, make us feel the fucking hurt as well. Even as an American, I'm fully screaming with the MAGAts "Bring it on!!" Make it hurt. Cancel app trade. Isolate us as we've chosen to isolate ourselves. The densest and dumbest conservatives aren't going to feel any buyers remorse until it TRULY fucking stings them in the ass. I say bring it on strong and make it quick and brutal for us!! The harsher and quicker were smacked in the face, the quicker and easier it will be to snap some of the "moderates" out of things or fully wake up enough Americans or Congress to actually fucking do something, even if it's already months too late.
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u/whatshamilton 5d ago
Yes this is his plan. He said China panicked and made the wrong move with their own tariffs, because in his mind the right move was to come groveling and he’d lift the tariffs and claim the success. But instead the world is calling his bluff and is going to realize they don’t need us and the market will rise but not at the rate or levels it once was. America has forever lost its place in the global standings of commerce, politics, and respect