r/BG3 • u/TheJoshArchives • 2d ago

What is Withers saving up for? Spoiler

I never understood why Withers requires money for his support, is there any Lore to justify this?

I always thought it would be better if his payment method was soul coins, then we would have to prioritise buffing Karlach or restrictions.

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u/KaiG1987 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah, and that's Revivify. What Withers is doing for us is more like Resurrection (1,000g) or even True Resurrection (25,000g).

Edit: I have been notified that the combat log confirms that it's True Resurrection, which makes sense. I never noticed myself because I don't really use Withers for resurrection.

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u/Sunny_Hill_1 1d ago

True Resurrection wouldn't even work on Astarion, so Withers is technically performing Divine Intervention every time he casts it for Astarion specifically. Dude is being extremely lenient with us.

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u/ApepiOfDuat Cleric 1d ago

Lore-wise based on how he talks about it, it's definitely some kind of Divine Intervention where he's unmaking our deaths.

Game mechanics-wise he's casting True Resurrection (it's in the action log). Obviously you wouldn't bother programming in a 3rd kind of resurrection magic just for Withers to use when Revivify and True Rez already exist.

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u/Sunny_Hill_1 1d ago

I was talking more about how True Resurrection isn't supposed to be applicable to someone who's been dead for more than 200 years, and if it was, then Astarion would resurrect resurrect, not half-resurrect in an undead state of a vampire. So for Astarion it's a modified True Resurrection with some very specific caveats. Theoretically, though, it means that a powerful enough cleric can keep bugging their deity for Divine Intervention until they can actually get to True Resurrection for Astarion that would legit resurrect him.