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r/BeAmazed • u/LarryKeene • Mar 03 '25
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They are so incredibly intelligent and the way we treat them is so sad
42 u/GlitteringBicycle172 Mar 03 '25 As far as I'm concerned, personhood doesn't start and stop with us. I could argue that a lot of animals have personhood, but I even see ants as tiny people since I learned they can recognize themselves as individuals in a mirror. 16 u/AssistanceCheap379 Mar 03 '25 Good news then, cause there is an Orangutan named Sandra that was granted ānon-human personhoodā in Florida of all places some years ago. The precedent is here and it can absolutely be argued that all great apes are non-human persons and that this should apply to more animals 1 u/Okish-Mathematician Mar 03 '25 She was granted it in Argentina, she lives in Florida now.Ā 1 u/KououinHyouma Mar 03 '25 Iām pretty sure in India dolphins are legally considered nonhuman persons. 1 u/Ok-Cat-8959 Mar 03 '25 It didnāt work out so well for Ted. 1 u/shutyerfizzace Mar 03 '25 Peter Singer wrote about this. You may well know about him but if you don't, check him out.
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As far as I'm concerned, personhood doesn't start and stop with us. I could argue that a lot of animals have personhood, but I even see ants as tiny people since I learned they can recognize themselves as individuals in a mirror.
16 u/AssistanceCheap379 Mar 03 '25 Good news then, cause there is an Orangutan named Sandra that was granted ānon-human personhoodā in Florida of all places some years ago. The precedent is here and it can absolutely be argued that all great apes are non-human persons and that this should apply to more animals 1 u/Okish-Mathematician Mar 03 '25 She was granted it in Argentina, she lives in Florida now.Ā 1 u/KououinHyouma Mar 03 '25 Iām pretty sure in India dolphins are legally considered nonhuman persons. 1 u/Ok-Cat-8959 Mar 03 '25 It didnāt work out so well for Ted. 1 u/shutyerfizzace Mar 03 '25 Peter Singer wrote about this. You may well know about him but if you don't, check him out.
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Good news then, cause there is an Orangutan named Sandra that was granted ānon-human personhoodā in Florida of all places some years ago.
The precedent is here and it can absolutely be argued that all great apes are non-human persons and that this should apply to more animals
1 u/Okish-Mathematician Mar 03 '25 She was granted it in Argentina, she lives in Florida now.Ā 1 u/KououinHyouma Mar 03 '25 Iām pretty sure in India dolphins are legally considered nonhuman persons.
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She was granted it in Argentina, she lives in Florida now.Ā
Iām pretty sure in India dolphins are legally considered nonhuman persons.
It didnāt work out so well for Ted.
Peter Singer wrote about this. You may well know about him but if you don't, check him out.
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u/runningoutofnames57 Mar 03 '25
They are so incredibly intelligent and the way we treat them is so sad