r/Cascadia • u/russellmzauner • 10d ago
They just snatched another person last night.
They just snatched another person last night.
A Turkish national here fully legally not just attending but *working* at Tufts, grabbed offsite, nobody knows where Rumeysa Ozturk is. There is footage of her being taken but no information from ICE on her whereabouts or any stops made along the way to where she might be right now.
This happened in Portland OR in 2020 when they were grabbing dozens of people off the streets except they took pictures of everyone's ID and fingerprinted them all before releasing them. Summer is coming and they've turned focus onto Oregon with at least two of the EO (mail in voting termination and natural resource exploitation); my fear is that they're going to use those lists in an attempt to sweep Portland.
Can more people file FOIA requests on the numbers of people they collected personal data on back in 2020 so they can be warned? At the least the total numbers of people they kidnapped, albeit temporary (just long enough to get their pictures, etc), can be made accessible to people who may be impacted as well as other uninformed people who might care about such things.
Any socially conscious lawyers reading this subreddit - it would be pretty cool to get some advice or maybe they can sort of wander off and quietly submit the document that I have no idea how to submit and even if I did I got no money and/or connections to fight the federal government.
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u/caseythedog345 9d ago
Iâve been arguing with my fellow jews for the past couple days about this. I donât understand at all how they think this is ok. I donât agree with a lot of what these Palestinian protesters want, but I recognize that they deserve respect and dignity. They have a constitutional right to protest, even if they arenât citizens. Itâs not even legal to deport people for their political views, supreme court said so in bridges v wixon. Iâm so tired of people around me deciding to ignore the constitution when they feel like it, just to remove someone for having different ideas. Shit makes me sick.
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u/thuanjinkee 8d ago
First they came for the nonbinaries, but I said nothing because I was not nonbinary.
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u/Inevitable-Revenue81 5d ago
Thatâs how it all always starts,âŚI am afraid it wonât stop there until they have fulfilled âsome quotasâ.
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u/Demons_Void 6d ago
And then they came for the Trans, but I said nothing because I was not Trans.
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u/thuanjinkee 6d ago
And then they came for the people who could potentially be mistaken for Mexican, but I said nothing because I wasnât brown.
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u/Demons_Void 6d ago
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me. (Citation: A parody of First They Came by Martin Niemoller 1892-1984) Thanks, "Thuanjinkee" that was my grandfather's favorite poem
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u/No_Grapefruit1895 7d ago
As a Jew, Iâm fucking terrified. I feel safe-ish in the greater Seattle area, but just because Cheeto is buddy buddy with Bibi, doesnât make us immune from any of this.
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u/OutrageousThurman 5d ago
If you're here illegally, you should be scared.
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u/EmploymentBrief9053 5d ago
People who are here legally are still being deported by ICE. Itâs just an excuse for white people to keep being racist without having to address their racism. They will find any way to make being brown a crime without saying it out loud. Deporting people over lapsed and easily resolvable paperwork, or because of their political views, is insane. If you draw the line at legality, you are at your stateâs whim, and youâll be next.
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u/MossGobbo 5d ago
Look most of what people want is for the better armed state to stop doing a genocide. I agree Hamas and others need to fuck off too but letting a foreign nation dictate who gets disappeared in America is really fucked up.
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u/Mikeyslilsister 5d ago
How could any caring human being think anything about this is OK??? And Jewish? Get tf out Ps Iâm Jewish on my mamaâs side
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u/caseythedog345 5d ago
They arenât bad people, Itâs just the media theyâve curated on their tiktok feeds
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u/caseythedog345 4d ago
nope, wrong actually. The constitution applies to non citizens too. Bridges v Wixon
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u/DiscussionRelative50 5d ago
Ironic that you use the birthplace of fascism as your example. Currently pushing a bill to criminalize unauthorized peaceful protests punishable by up to 7 years prison time (for their own citizens).
Well played, sir.
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u/Wild_Excitement4293 5d ago
Oh wow, I had no idea. Seems a bit extreme to me, to imprison people due to unauthorized protest. I am all for protesting, while obeying existing laws and not affecting other citizens liberty/property. To push legislation to where only the government determines whatâs authorized/un authorized is ridiculous.
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u/DiscussionRelative50 5d ago
Okay then you understand that under existing laws, foreign nationals that are in the US legally have every right and protection of protest that US citizens have?
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u/Wild_Excitement4293 5d ago
Yes, if they are here legally.
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u/DiscussionRelative50 5d ago
âConstitution applies to citizens, non citizens do not get that right. Itâs like me going over to Italy and protesting against their government. You think they are going to allow me to do that? No. They will ship me home.â
What did you mean by this statement?
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u/Wild_Excitement4293 5d ago
Non citizens, meaning here illegally.
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u/DiscussionRelative50 5d ago
Those are two different things. These stories arenât about illegal immigrants, theyâre about foreign nationals that are here legally being detained.
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u/radar641dam 5d ago
if their visa gets revoked immediately after they publicly protest the government of the country they are visiting that is an international standard and is "normal". Despite how bad it makes the governments who follow that standard look
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u/Mission_Exercise_448 5d ago
OMG I've been in the dark I have no TV and I have no idea of what is going on and this scared me. I am from Haifa but now in the US .Can you direct me to some where I can get the true honest report. ,? Thank you
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u/NoPerspective9399 5d ago
Palestinians hate us and our country I personally donât think any of them should be here. And no Iâm not a MAGA extremist⌠I simply feel people need to enter the country legally for one, and not make Their problems our problems.
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u/Iwas7b4u 9d ago
What do we do if we see something like this? Do they show ID?
Who are these guys?
Why did they pick her?
It wasnât random. They planned this.
If you are anything like this person who was kidnapped, IMMEDIATELY BREAK YOUR ROUTINE!
Sleep other places Turn off your phone Use secure communications Build a go bag Park your car well away from where you sleep
Scary isnât it that Americans would even need to act and speak this way.
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u/Hopeful_Being_2589 6d ago
I read a couple articles that said She was picked/ investigated because she wrote a letter (with others at the university) that qualified as violating the free speech amendment. Free speech has limits such as threats of violence or death, display of hate symbols such as swastikas, treason, etc. Iâm not sure of the specifics.
Unfortunately, the protests have had some violence, displays of and defacement of property with hate symbols, and people wearing such things as Hamas headbands or shirts with other symbols of groups that are classified by our government as terrorist organizations.
.. and itâs all on film. So, the current government is using that to justify using facial recognition to track down anyone at the protests and match with citizenship records.So, a lot of what is happening is terrifyingly legal and encouraging more bills to pass that make it worse.
The article also said :
It was ICE. Some were wearing visible badges.
Ozturk is detained at the South Louisiana ICE Processing Center in Basile, according to ICEâs online detainee locator system.
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u/hanimal16 Washington 10d ago
âA couple of weeks ago, the professor said, she received a message from Ms. Ozturk, asking her to remove pictures of her with friends from the social media account of the lab. Ms. Ozturk told her she was being doxxed, meaning that personal information about her was being posted maliciously online.â
It sounds like Rumeysa was being harassed? If so, next step (aside from locating her) is to find out who was doing the doxxing.
Quote from NYT article
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u/Scotcash 6d ago
I've set all my social profiles to private simply because my wife is from Mexico, even though she has a green card.
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u/hanimal16 Washington 6d ago
Iâve got a friend from Peru with a green card (husband and kids born here), says sheâs working towards citizenship, but I am so scared for her. I want to tell her not to draw attention to herself
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u/cafemama 6d ago
Itâs pretty established that Canary Mission and Betar are making lists for Rubio
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u/KnottyCatLady Portland 10d ago
Here is the NY Times article without paywall
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u/Turbulent_Heart9290 10d ago
This is disturbing, as it seems that her activism and immigration status are both being used against her. Universities have been keeping tabs on pro-Palestinian protesters, too, likely out of concern that it could worsen already rising levels of anti-semitism. (I did manage to talk to a couple of protesters about it, and some were from Jewish groups that did not support Israel's actions in Palestine.) Meanwhile, in Gaza, they're still protesting for peace. https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-03-26-2025-ac541bac478575ca63e9a6da5d3133fc
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u/WeeklyAd8453 9d ago
It is not pro-Palestinian, but pro-hamas that is doing that.
There is a big difference between rooting and trying to help ppl vs. a terrorists organization.
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u/kooks-only 9d ago
This is it folks. A real-life gestapo in America.
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u/UnderstandingU7 5d ago
This has always been the case tho lol it just seems like middle class white people are finally seeing it for themselves
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u/LikelyReichle 5d ago
This is significantly worse and more brazen. These people are legal residents and there's no recourse. If they get you, you're off to El Salvador
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u/UnderstandingU7 5d ago
There is literally hella political prisoners in this country that's been locked up since the 60s and 70s lol plus the countless red scares and labor union killings and arrests of leaders. This is a re run my guy
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u/Vicious_Paradigm 9d ago
Why does Israel have so much power in the US that pro-Palestine protestors are seemingly the top priority for targeting? Who's actually in charge? đ¤
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u/AzazeltheWuffyDragon 9d ago
Israel is where the US tests all of its systems to make war crimes. Cop city is a giant training facility for the IDF to train cops here
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u/AlexPherigo77 9d ago
The jewish elite (NOT ALL JEWS) have been dividing the masses for decades to maintain power through physical and pyschological wars, propaganda and social experimentation on everyone and sadly made "Christians" allies. I have to repeat this is Not The Actions Of All Jews only a small group that you can find modern video proof of them talking about enslaving the rest of the world's races under their "god" and it's not only them that have been doing this for milleniums since the return of Jesus which they still don't accept and have spread this global cultural diesease in plain sight. Its crazy to me that Christians support Israel being a stolen land (for the most part) The Muslims and other nations that have fought with them for milleniums are no better but no one is better than anyone else and we all derseve peace and harmony only the trust in God that we can bring to our world. I can elaborate more if anyone is interested.
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u/Demons_Void 6d ago
At what point do we call this human trafficking over international lines and ask the UN to step in to make it stop
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u/bonorumemalorum 6d ago
Just happened in Detroit too. A woman took the wrong turn at the ambassador bridge to Windsor from Detroit. Detained her, a legal alien, and her two children, American citizens, for 5 days instead of just letting her turn around.
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u/ChemicalPure6545 6d ago
What can we do? I figure talking about it helps people become conscious of the situation, but are there any further steps we can take?
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u/Inevitable-Revenue81 5d ago
Get organized and start communicating with anyone you think can help and understand.
Start doing it now!
Or it will be an uphill battle later on.
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u/2003GrandMarquisLSE 5d ago
Unless I'm driving or flying, I never carry my ID. There's absolutely no law that requires you to give up your ID unless you're legally being arrested.
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u/Fantastic-Gate1659 5d ago
"By law, every person who is not a US citizen and is a present in the United States in legal status must carry with them on their person proof of their identity and legal status. And this requirement applies to both nonimmigrants as well as green card holders. Failure to carry AND produce these documents are a criminal offense (misdemeanor). If any of the immigration related documents have been lost, you are required to immediately apply for replacement and carry some evidence that you have done so.": immigration.com.
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u/Frequent-Okra8751 5d ago
This shit has to stop give trump a bag of cheetos and a box of x lax since he is full of shit
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u/Queuevius 9d ago
Good idea. Also if they start sending unmarked goons in on Mark bands to abduct people in Portland again we should cover them with paint and make a big ass scene so that the news has to focus on the story.
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u/Gi0phadraig 9d ago
The footage of her being taken is incredibley disheartening. No one stopped them. No one stepped in to make sure it was legal. Even the guy recording just half heartedly called out questions to them.
It reminded me of the woman in that town hall getting dragged out by people in civilian cloths. Everyone just watched.
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u/Flimsy-Swordfish-713 8d ago
https://youtu.be/i17mgRK3GX8?si=bL0HlrYjHv3T_gIh
Weâve been lazy from the bottom up. Hard times create strong men. Subverted times create⌠COCKADOODLE doo assholes!! Buncha sleeping sloths!
No GIFs. Reddit?
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u/SteppeWest 5d ago
I have the video, & 3 excellent pieces of commentary on it. Since I don't seem to be able to put attachments into comments, I will post them to r/SteppeWest (which I run), & link back here.
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u/DJGlennW 5d ago
They do, with the exception of the right to have a lawyer if they're facing deportation.
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u/PaulyPMR 5d ago
Well , if I had been a founder , I would not have granted rights to people who are in this country illegally.
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u/DJGlennW 5d ago
You were born in the wrong century. Remember this from high school:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
That's from the preamble to the Declaration of Independence. I added the emphasis on "all."
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u/PaulyPMR 4d ago
The very fact that they are here makes each one of them a criminal! I donât care for criminals!
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u/DJGlennW 4d ago
And they, like you, are endowed with inalienable rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And these are green card holders, not in violation of any laws.
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u/PaulyPMR 2d ago
Wow, if you donât tow the Reddit line and spout propaganda, you will be banned!!! I would expect this in the UK but not in America!
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u/AdAffectionate7090 5d ago
Good
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u/Some_Bag_5384 5d ago
How is this good?
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u/AdAffectionate7090 5d ago
Ice is deporting foreign terror supporters . Thats a win. If they dont have citizenship they dont have a right to be here. We allow it until we dont.
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u/RivCannibal 5d ago
It is literally not illegal to protest or join one. In fact, it's protected by the constitution, immigrants Are included & protected under it, Supreme Court has said that more than once.
Stop being a nounce, even if you don't care about the people currently being dragged, just know, this happening is making it so it's acceptable for whoever is in charge to do it to You, so if we get a leader swap & they don't like what you've done or said online, or maybe you held a sign somewhere... The goons can grab you too!
Like, the best action right now, is to get selfish in a manner that prevents this from ever being even the slightest possibility for you & yours. This is just testing the waters, to see how far they can go & it's already too far.
Every single one of these people have the Right to legal representation & they're not being given it, even ones who already have lawyers, the lawyers aren't being given options for contacting their clients.
We can dislike other groups & people, but still protect the rights our constitutions gives them. Hell, even Osama Bin Laden had the right of legal representation, I definitely hated that man, I lost family because of him, but I also agree he had the right to a lawyer, even if I wanted him to rot & suffer from the worst of fates. (My auntie & uncle worked in the towers, my Auntie was less than 24hrs away from maternity leave, they couldn't get out.)
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u/SteppeWest 5d ago
All Rumeysa Ozturk did was to write an op-ed in support of Palestine. There was no mention of Hamas. There was no call for violence. If you are such a legal expert, please tell us what her crime was? Why has she not been accorded due process? Why has she been removed from Massachusetts in contravention of a court order?
Or do you simply support fascism?
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u/DJGlennW 5d ago
They still have First Amendment rights, and protection of the remainder of the Constitution, the single exception being the right to counsel in a deportation case.
You can argue with the Founding Fathers and SCOTUS if that troubles you.
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u/TeachThem2Fish 13h ago
I would argue if you were correct. They are allowed here at our approval. There is a new Sheriff in Town.
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u/DJGlennW 4h ago edited 4h ago
I am correct. Here's documentation:
The "sheriff" doesn't matter. We are still a nation of laws (I'm happy to provide additional sources).
By the way, the current administration is coming for your disability, too.
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak outâbecause I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak outâbecause I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak outâbecause I was not a Jew. Then they came for meâand there was no one left to speak for me." ~Martin NiemĂśller
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u/Kurama929 5d ago
It's not a privilege to live here. It never was. I cant want until I can leave this shithole and live in another country. I wish I was born somewhere else and didn't have to deal with pRIviLEgEd white bitches like you that think everyone is below them just because they don't have a skin disorder that drains them of color.
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u/Solid-Audience-65 5d ago
My Grandparents came from Germany and Norway legally. They wanted to have more options. They assimilated and felt very strong about making the country great. I don't understand people these days, wanting illegal immigrants to have the same rights as citizens.
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u/DJGlennW 5d ago
They're granted those rights under the Constitution, with the single exception of the right to counsel if they're facing deportation. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the Supreme Court and the Founding Fathers.
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u/Quick-Math-9438 7d ago
Oh weâre doing this to law breakers when dies it happen to the executive branch âŚ.
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u/Stoneddoomer420 7d ago
I've been thinking of that for years as well the dirt piling up on them n other sort of dirt they got their hands on
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u/ObsidianBearClaw 5d ago
How is protesting the genocide of Palestinians a crime? How is that terrorism? Supporting Palestinians is not synonymous with Supporting Hamas.
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u/SteppeWest 5d ago
She did no "terrorists shit". All Rumeysa Ozturk did was to write an op-ed in support of Palestine. There was no mention of Hamas. There was no call for violence. If you are such a legal expert, please tell us what her crime was? Why has she not been accorded due process? Why has she been removed from Massachusetts in contravention of a court order?
Or do you simply support fascism?
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u/nikdahl Seattle 10d ago
A labor organizer was snatched up in Ferndale, WA.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/protest-emerges-at-ferndale-facility-after-ice-reportedly-detains-whatcom-county-activist/ar-AA1BEQJy