r/Cascadia • u/russellmzauner • 11d ago

They just snatched another person last night.

They just snatched another person last night.

A Turkish national here fully legally not just attending but *working* at Tufts, grabbed offsite, nobody knows where Rumeysa Ozturk is. There is footage of her being taken but no information from ICE on her whereabouts or any stops made along the way to where she might be right now.

This happened in Portland OR in 2020 when they were grabbing dozens of people off the streets except they took pictures of everyone's ID and fingerprinted them all before releasing them. Summer is coming and they've turned focus onto Oregon with at least two of the EO (mail in voting termination and natural resource exploitation); my fear is that they're going to use those lists in an attempt to sweep Portland.

Can more people file FOIA requests on the numbers of people they collected personal data on back in 2020 so they can be warned? At the least the total numbers of people they kidnapped, albeit temporary (just long enough to get their pictures, etc), can be made accessible to people who may be impacted as well as other uninformed people who might care about such things.

Any socially conscious lawyers reading this subreddit - it would be pretty cool to get some advice or maybe they can sort of wander off and quietly submit the document that I have no idea how to submit and even if I did I got no money and/or connections to fight the federal government.

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u/nikdahl Seattle 11d ago

A labor organizer was snatched up in Ferndale, WA.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/protest-emerges-at-ferndale-facility-after-ice-reportedly-detains-whatcom-county-activist/ar-AA1BEQJy

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u/SummitMyPeak 11d ago

Fuck ICE. Fuck this imprisonment system.

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u/OutrageousThurman 6d ago

They're only "snatching" people that are here ILLEGALLY. If they didn't wanna get deported, they should've took care of their paperwork. THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE VOTED FOR!! Cry about it. 🤷‍♂️

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u/GlenLongwell1 6d ago

Due process still exists, and if you're holding someone without that when they've committed no violent crime, it's called inhumane, but as you said, that's what you voted for.

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u/Top_Recording5207 6d ago

Where EXACTLY are you getting your information. Cite some sources.

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u/GlenLongwell1 6d ago

How did they collect welfare if they weren't legal? You need a social security number for that. Working under the table doesn't make the employee the criminal that's their boss, and they still would be paying taxes whenever they bought stuff, so you're just like really misinformed or naive. Hope you learn better.

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u/GlenLongwell1 6d ago

It does if you're holding them holding people without due process when they haven't committed a violent crime is a war crime. Concentration camps are another word for them.

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u/GlenLongwell1 6d ago

Also, you don't know if these people are asylum seekers here legally or otherwise or anything because it's being done very secret police like.

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u/JuriPlz 6d ago

If you're here on legal asylum then that status can be taken away by the same government that granted it...

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u/Ironworker76_ 6d ago

Just say your racist. Because that’s the only way you would be so hateful. These people are getting snatched. Not just criminals. Legal immigrants. People with valid visas, some were even citizens… all because their skin is brown. If they only deported violent criminals. And they gave them due process.. which is as simple as correctly IDENTIFYING them and a judge telling them to get the fuck out. Boom. Done. And none of us would be saying shit. But that’s not what’s going on.

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u/JuriPlz 6d ago

Also, if they came here illegally, then they're technically a criminal so...Boom. Done.

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u/Smart_Ad8375 6d ago

Please get your facts straight. Unauthorized entry is a civil issue, not a crime. Don't like the Constitution get 34 states to agree and change it.

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u/JuriPlz 6d ago

Yeah, I'm not being hateful. All I did was point out legalities of things.

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u/Ironworker76_ 6d ago

That’s not true. If you gave a fuck about legal, these people would have their day in court. So… you’re full of shit.

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u/JuriPlz 6d ago

They aren't citizens so they don't get the same rights as an US citizen. It's the same thing if you commit a felony. If you commit a felony then you can't vote or buy a gun. If you're an illegal citizen then you get deported. That's how it is in pretty much every other country too.

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u/IamaJellyDonut42069 6d ago

Actually, if a person is in the United States, legally or otherwise, they are protected by the constitution. So just tell everyone you don’t give a fuck about the constitution.

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u/RogerianBrowsing 6d ago

Says who? Not the judicial system, legal experts, lawyers, constitutional law professors, etc..

Fox News brain rot? Sure, but their lawyers argue no reasonable person would believe what they say to be fact for a reason.

Sincerely, how would you even know they’re undocumented or here illegally if due process isn’t done? Ignoring/disregarding the constitution and due process for certain people means that there’s nothing stopping it from being done to other groups, part of the point of due process is making sure the correct people are accused.

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u/JuriPlz 6d ago

And wwwhhhheeere is the evidence backing you up?

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u/RogerianBrowsing 6d ago

A. You’re the one who made an extraordinary claim by claiming that the constitution doesn’t apply to everyone within the jurisdiction of the United States despite the wording of the constitution being clear. If anyone needs to provide a citation for the claims made it’s you.

B. The aforementioned experts have already said what I called attention to.

If you want to believe the word of a conman grifter and their cult of sycophants that’s your call to make, but just realize that the rest of us see right through it.

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u/JuriPlz 6d ago

If you're not a citizen you don't get the same rights as citizens and rights of our own citizens can be limited. How is this such a difficult concept to grasp? If you're here illegally you are a criminal and will be sent back. Most countries do this in the western world.

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u/RogerianBrowsing 6d ago

A. They don’t get the exact same rights as citizens but they still have rights afforded to them by the constitution that apply to any person within the jurisdiction of the U.S., including the right of due process.

B. Being in the country without the proper documentation is rarely a crime. It’s typically equivalent to a disorderly persons civil violation. It doesn’t matter if you call them illegal, it doesn’t have any real legal meaning. Surely you don’t think jaywalkers should be sent to foreign torture gulag prisons without even having a court hearing… right?

C. To reiterate: HOW DO YOU KNOW THEYRE CITIZENS OR NOT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS? HOW DO YOU KNOW THEYRE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY OR NOT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS?

I truly cannot stand the constitution/rights hating jingoism, especially when it’s combined with condescending prideful ignorance.

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u/Extra-Pizza-2657 6d ago

Actually, illegally entering the country is a civil offense. That means it about as illegal as a parking ticket. You’re not a criminal for civil offenses like a ticket. It’s the same case for entering the country without proper paperwork. Some people literally don’t have the papers necessary cause they are fleeing from persecution or a litany of other reasons like fires etc. due process is the ONLY real way to understand what offenses these people have made against America, simply crossing the border does not make you a felon or a criminal…

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u/nikdahl Seattle 4d ago

If someone is bound by the laws of the United States, then they are privy to the protections of the constitution.

That’s how it works.

Any visitor or immigrant is entitled to all constitutional rights that a citizen would have. Only ambassadors and other visitors that are not under the jurisdiction of US law are also not entitled to the protections.

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u/Top_Recording5207 6d ago

It applies to EVERYONE here in our country, especially if they have Visas. They are afforded Due Process no matter what. And people CANNOT be arrested or detained without FIRST obtaining a WARRANT, and being charged. THAT MY IGNORANT FRIEND IS CALLED KIDNAPPING. Especially if they are masked and unmarked.

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u/Smart_Ad8375 6d ago

Read the Constitution. Any person on US soil is guaranteed due process. Even enemy combatants get due process. It's why Bush took the yo Guantamino because if brought to the US, they would have to have a trial.

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u/Direct_Confidence_16 6d ago

What part of "she was here legally, attending school, and working" dont you understand. She didnt break any laws. You're stupid.

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u/rebs92 6d ago

PhD students are not in the US illegally.

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u/nikdahl Seattle 4d ago

Due process applies to everyone. It does not discriminate.

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u/Inevitable-Design461 6d ago

You nor anyone else knows that without “Due Process!” You all believe what you hear from your pathetic bent-knee subordinate news sources and that vial lying imposter of a leader. Don’t respond, I’m not gullible and have the full capacity of my critical thinking skills. Nobody’s crying-we believe in our laws and constitution and we are angry that the rights of these folks are being violated!

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u/LordChasington 6d ago

We didn’t vote for this, MAGA did and Elon bought the rest

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u/RogerianBrowsing 6d ago

You’re literally in a post about someone who is lawfully in the country being disappeared. Try rubbing those two last brain cells together and thinking critically for just a moment without being blinded by partisan bias.

Also, T won (assuming it was a secure election) but he got less than 50% of the vote and many people believed the lies they espoused. Point being, no this is not what people voted for they thought the law would be followed and they wouldn’t be lied to about the people harmed, and even if all the magats knew this what was coming the majority of people still didn’t vote for it either. Trump got a plurality, not a majority.

TLDR: everything you said was verifiably false. Stick to speaking for yourself, not others.

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u/calladus 6d ago

Looks at his profile, people. He is a troll. Just block him and move on. Nothing he says is worth a damn.

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u/emeraldpity 6d ago

You need to practice not looping other people into your voting priorities. "WE" voted for many things, and across many different viewpoints.

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u/Okiebryan 6d ago

Except everything that you just wrote is a demonstrable lie. Are you lying rn, or just repeating the lie you were told by the lying liars?

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u/SaltLakeBear 6d ago

Read the part where they're here legally, dumbass.

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u/rebs92 6d ago

Several have not been proven to be in the US illegally. The Indian Columbia student comes to mind with a masters from Harvard who randomly had their visa revoked - which doesn't constitute being in the US illegally. The institution even thought it was a joke before they came knocking.

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u/ThrowAwaysMatter2026 2d ago

Ahh yes, the ignorance of people who have only a steady diet of right wing media.

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-father-deported-el-salvador-abrego-garcia-us-immigration/

Also, please explain to me how a tariff works. Who pays for it?

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u/OutrageousThurman 2d ago

The consumer pays for it. Duh. You think I'm fucking stupid? If you want Chinese made bullshit, you're gonna have to pay a lot more now. Don't like it? Tough shit. All the foreign companies that make more than half of their profits here in America are gonna be fucked, rightfully so, because nobody is gonna buy it. That's the whole point. It's gonna force them to move their factories to America if they wanna remain profitable. It's creating more jobs here, and making more supply here. Increasing our GDP. It's gonna keep the US dollar here in the US. We're gonna have less taxes and more savings. Companies from all over the world are going to bend the knee and acknowledge our strength or suffer bankruptcy and foreclosure. Other countries that have been taking advantage of us for decades are going to drop their tariffs against us or they'll suffer too. The US economy holds up half of the world. Not anymore. The rest of the world can figure out their own economies, WITHOUT America's help. 😎🇺🇸đŸŚ