r/JoeRogan • u/Anteater4746 Monkey in Space • Mar 04 '25

Meme 💩 Guess we’re done with free speech eh?

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Who decides what is illegal? How proud boys aren’t being targeted for wearing masks?

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u/PiggyWobbles Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

They complain about free speech when liberals are in power because it is according to liberal principles. They take away free speech when they are in power because it is according to their principles

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u/MrOatButtBottom Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

God damnit I really didn’t want to live in a Frank Herbert future, this fucking sucks.

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u/GreasyToken Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

Learned recently Herbert had a pretty nuanced view of power.

Most people just say power corrupts and leave it at that.

Herbert made a point to say power absolutely corrupts those that seek it.

I think that's in part because the greedier you are, the more you will be willing to sacrifice morals and ethics.

Power isn't inherently dangerous or corrupting but rather amplifies what is in the heart of the wielder.

If people with dirty little heart's get power we're all in trouble...oh wait...

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u/MrOatButtBottom Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

If Elon turned into a sand trout we’d all be better off

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u/Manbabarang Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

He's turning into some kind of trout.

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u/Bairdogg Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

Idk it took about 3500 years for that to pay off for humanity, and that humanoid sand trout had good intentions

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u/MrOatButtBottom Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

Do not do a Jihad, don’t do it. Paul tried to warn us

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u/Jason1143 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

Hence the (only kind of a) joke that anyone capable of getting themselves elected president should under no circumstances be allowed to do the job.

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u/tecphile Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

We've seen people in positions of power do great things and terrible things, so clearly this isn't true. The true adage should be go something like this

"Power reveals who you are"

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u/Kleekl Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

more like GreasyTolkien amirite?

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u/MadHamishMacGregor Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible."

Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune

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u/rgtong Monkey in Space Mar 05 '25

Yeah i was told by successful relatives that power is corrupting, and ive spent my life to try to avoid that. Its sad when people go around claiming that as absolute, because it denies the possibility to overcome.

power absolutely corrupts those that seek it.

Never heard it like this, but i think its an accurate and important distinction.

rather amplifies what is in the heart of the wielder.

Having said that, i think this statement is also not correct. With power comes a certain host of conditions that have a corrupting nature, e.g. the existence of sycophants and consequences of entering into the games of politics and power. Its not correct to say that good people dont become corrupt.

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u/Agreeable_Daikon_686 Monkey in Space Mar 04 '25

It’s not even complaining about free speech because government will do anything, it’s the horror of some blue haired weirdo scolding them or someone pushing back on their nonsense that these MAGA’s fear

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u/RBeck Monkey in Space Mar 05 '25

The point is to make people hate free speech so they can erode it. Go start a website anywhere that accepts user content and come back in a week, it will be mostly CSAM, Nazi propaganda and ads for drugs.