I want to play it.

So weird phenomena I've noticed is the woke side since before the beginning of GG has kept calling for GG to take actions or changes things then getting mad when we don't even if it's clearly something they are interested in and in theory could easily organise round?

The first was the push to be more politically active for their causes

Then was the push to all condemn Eron.

Then the push to change the hashtag which changed from 5 guys to Gamergate.

Months in they said Gamergate as a tag was poisoned and needed to change so some others created a different tag I think it was #videogamevoters or something like that only for them to get mad saying it was just poisoned and a cover so people gave up and went back to Gamergate as a tag, this was the one and only time people really tried to appease the woke side.

Since then there have been

• multiple calls to support games (all ones they championed)
• Calls to help them get Netflix She-Ra renewed
• Call to help them get The Batgirl movie released, because #ReleasetheySnydercut despite them mocking said group for months and disparaging them at every chance, suddenly when it's the film they want they want said people to help, rather than prove they actually could organise and push for it themselves.
• Now calls to start a revolution against Trump because the Switch 2 isn't taking pre-orders as soon and might cost a bit more due to tariffs.

It's just weird to me a group who proposed we should be turfed out and banned from all of gaming and who have actively salivated and celebrated the idea of us all dying off so only they the "superior" audience are left. Yet they're calling for us at every chance for help like we're servants and they're incapable invalids. They don't organise mostly. They don't actually seem capable or pushing for what they want or doing much other than whining on twitter.

Worse they try to mock or disparage anyone loosely connected with our side or other spin off movements who try to do anything or make anything or change anything. All the comments about how Jawbreakers being a huge hit was not really because just regular comics do better according to them. Or when they do something it's something that never emerges, rebeljam, the Feminist deck of playing cards project, The Chuck Tingle game.

What's with this weird entitlement to our time and effort for their specific causes they keep showing?

First of all... An apology to the Mods. I was disrespectful and felt entitled. And I am sorry for that. But I will list the reasons why I think this post deserves to be up, and if I need to correct something or didn't follow the rules. I will edit and adjust.

1. Kotaku had a problem. To this day Alyssa Mercante has said that she was fired, but has also said that she quit.
   
2. This video goes into a specific section of her college dissertation on a game called 'Sabbot' that I think most people would find problematic. (Like body mutilation, animal mutilation, and satanism)
   
3. I think Kotaku would thrive if that had internal red flags to prevent writers like this happening.
   
4. This creator does not represent me (as much I am a fan), but I think in order to make Kotaku better... People like Alyssa I personally think is problematic to the industry...

You know, the whole problem with game adaptations is that players have already played the game and enjoyed it, and so the adaptation is likely just references galore or something like Netflix's Devil May Cry. Neither is really good, imo.

SOME SPOILERS BELOW:

The voice work and animation was fine, but the writing? Am I missing something? How did the show turn into America bad? Even the first scene had the rabbit giving some boiler plate "Americans are dumb and shoot everything" kind of speech. If we weren't in the current climate of social media cartoon politics, then I'd probably still have an issue with the direction the story went, since I was hoping to get something that even remotely resembled the storyline from the games, and I'm not saying that this was the worst adaptation I've ever seen, but this was pretty bad, especially towards the end. The music choices did not land, apart from the bounty hunters/mercs vs Dante scene.

In this day and age, with writers all over IP adaptations inserting current day political opinions, it's hard to not be suspicious of what they here, too. Making the politicians either stupid or unflinchingly evil, with the only connection to any religion being the super evil politician constantly using it to justify the bad stuff he does. I'm not saying Devil May Cry can't go there as far as subject matter (the series does hinge on fighting demons, after all), but come on. When the ONLY person who ever brings up religion in the show is using for evil, AND he's a callous, borderline obsessive U.S. politician, in this day and age, I doubt the writers were writing from a place of impartiality.

I stayed away from the trailers on this one because I, like an idiot, was hoping to get something maybe like Castlevania season 1. And yes, I never expect much of anything from Netflix, but I still try to give some things a chance so I don't blindly dismiss or hate on everything that might incidentally look like it touches something political, because not everything with politics in it is like the current day one-sided trash we see all too often.

My issues aren't just the likelihood of biased writing, but that the writing kind of sucks in general. I thought early Dante's personality and quips were ok, not great. What they did with the rabbit and Lady were really dumb, though.

First off, we get (more biased writing I suspect, which is pretty hard to ignore when all these things are in the same show) Lady's father being emasculated because he froze up in a flashback when Lady's mother didn't, followed by him turning himself into a monster that ruins the whole family. Would've been WAY more interesting if he was more important to the show's actual story, but I guess the writers couldn't be bothered to try and uphold the story from the games at the very least.

Second, we get the anime shallow Alice In Wonderland villain, which, to me, felt like he belonged in a different show. Why? Because he's a big talking anime rabbit man. However, that didn't ruin the show for me. But wait, because this is where the writing and story decisions really start to fall apart. The rabbit is NOT a possessed toy or person like some character suspects early on (and which I thought would've been the least stupid explanation for a rabbit man in this world), but he's TOTALLY HUMAN. You may wonder, if he's totally human, then how is he a rabbit man? Why would I think that he's a talking rabbit? Because the rabbit's eyes and mouth move like he's an actual talking rabbit man, with no magic or demon whatever as an explanation. The guy wove together a rabbit mask, lamely inspired by Alice In Wonderland, puts it on, and not only can he see through the wider eyes of the big rabbit head, but the MOUTH MOVES like it's his actual mouth. Seriously? With no explanation?? Why, just to make the fact that he's a human underneath a big twist? How many times do writers like this have to make the same mistakes on things that actually get released for the world to see? That ISN'T a twist. It's a plothole, if anything. What do the characters in-world see, a rabbit mask, or an actual rabbit head that can talk and emote? This isn't like Venom or Rorschach.

Then you have what's probably the goofiest spin on the Devil May Cry premise: not all demons are bad. Granted, we know that Sparda changed his ways, but now we not only have demon refugees, which would've been a harmless concept if it didn't become a major focus of the story, which, again, is another thing to add to the pile of biased writing, given what horrific stuff happens to them and the show's penchant for emphasizing American iconography. And here's another flaw in the writing, because the refugees complain about being experimented on by the rabbit, but the ones who he uses for combat are happy to do so, and it's AFTER this that we get the rabbit man's overly sad backstory. So which is it, is the rabbit mistreating them or not? You have guys happily following orders, and guys that want to be put out of their misery.

Also, what's the significance of the shapeshifter if other demons can do that, too? We're introduced to Lady and her crew by their being able to detect one in disguise as a merc, Lady even goes on to describe what they see and SMELL to suss one out, yet they're totally unaware of the shapeshifter when he's close? What was the point of that intro "we can discern the signs of a disguise" scene for Lady and her people if that's never relevant again?

And Lady. Man, she could've been good. They changed so much about her story, but if they'd not made her Ms. Plot Armor then she could've still been cool. This woman is IMMUNE to real damage in the show despite being completely human, while the rest of her crew gets one-shot in a single scene. On top of that, she is doggedly loyal to Evil Religion Politician (Kevin Conroy's voice was great btw) and has a blind hatred of demons, then she realizes that some of them are refugees so she chills out a bit, but after Politician orders the refugees to all be shot, she remains loyal ot him to the extent of betraying the out-and-out good Dante? What sense does that make? Also, her blind stupidity is what triggers the rabbit man to become the rabbit man in a scene so dumb that I checked out of the show entirely. He's bringing people through a portal that he stupidly keeps open despite a monster chasing them, gets caught by Lady and her crew who don't know good demons from bad ones, and when the MONSTER comes through and starts EATING the refugees, Lady and her crew start firing on the REFUGEES WHO ARE FLEEING AND SCREAMING FOR HELP INSTEAD OF THE MONSTER. WHAT? Am I supposed to think "wow, humans are bad" or that the government is terrible despite Lady's obvious capacity to understand that some demons are innocent people later on? How could she not tell the difference here, then, when the refugees put their hands up and surrender. And of course, we have to have that contrived interaction where rabbit man says anything but the most crucial information that would explain their presence before the monster shows up. That whole backstory episode was shoddy at best. Instead of the writers actually pacing out the backstory or the way the audience can at least glean the relevant info about the past, we get an episode-long super sad music video, in a show about Devil May Cry. And how much time even passed between that scene and the present for rabbit man to have a whole building setup, with functioning security systems, money, henchmen, and the means to get to the Sparda sword, meet Vergil (who works for the big evil king that all the refugees are trying to escape from in addition to bad hell air) and get his help somehow, since Lady and her crew look exactly the same then as they do in the present? When you start to look at the show harder, a lot of it starts to fall apart, and that's never a good thing. Good stories get stronger when you look at them closely.

Also, maybe I'm nitpicking, but the rabbit's backstory was already annoying when the writers gave him amateur-hour plot armor during his first encounter with the kind of monster that comes back later. Somehow some little boy in a hellscape with toxic air is outrunning this giant hungry predator. I know the art style was trying to be overly cutesy and sappy, but that was just dumb. To give the show some grace, though, I did like the idea of the hellscape having a different art style. Too bad the HELL WORLD looked cutesy, and they don't even reintroduce that idea when Dante gets thrown into that world in the present during a fight. That kind of conssitency would've been appreciated.

Also, the show kind of botched the Devil Trigger song imo, among other songs they try to use, ESPECIALLY American Idiot, where the pacing and any semblance of logic take the final nosedive and becomes an abject mess. Again, HOW MUCH time has passed for big bad America to take over hell and construct a prison system INSIDE it without big hell king Mundus retaliating at all? Is Evil Religion Politician still the vice president? Does that mean it took less than four years to invade hell and get the money, time, and material to build a facility INSIDE it strong enough to contain demons? You're telling me Lady didn't realize she was wrong for choosing the evil American politician during all this time and try to free Dante? And if she DID, we're to busy doing a sloppy montage to see it, because it's more important to emphasize how terrible America is?

I'm not even going to touch on real-world politics in this post, because it isn't the point and it shouldn't even be A point in a Devil May Cry show. I know I'm missing other glaring issues in this show, so feel free to point those out, too. Might start a list.

If you read this far, thanks. My bad for any typos.

Source: https://www.pttweb.cc/bbs/C_Chat/M.1743519220.A.030

There was a translation available a few days ago on this sub, unfortunately the mods think the translation was 100% done by ChatGPT (it's not) so it breaks rule 7.

If a youtube channel (such as asmongold) made a video about the article, and then someone else uploaded the video link on this sub and spent 10 seconds writing a summary, the mods would approve it, despite it containing the same content. I'm confident to say the mods didn't spend even a nanosecond reading the article (which pointed out many flaws the game has, from gameplay aspects to historical inaccuracies) before dismissing it as "just a random review".

A bit more explanation:

1. Takeda Akiyama clan's flag has a three-layered diamond-shaped crest ("三階菱"). Yamato Akiyama clan (which was active in the Uda District of Yamato Province), is different from the Takeda Akiyama clan. Ubisoft confused the two, placing Takeda Akiyama clan's flag at the Yamato Akiyama clan's stronghold, Uda Matsuyama Castle.
2. In the game, Akechi Mitsuhide says "It is the fifth month, when rain falls. Water rushes in the garden on summer mountain" (ときは今天が下しる五月哉 水上まさる庭の夏山) as his death poem. However, this is a poem he said before the Honno-ji Incident and it's called "Atago Hyakuin" (愛宕百韻). He has a death poem (順逆無二門 大道徹心源 五十五年夢 覚来帰一元), but for some reason Ubisoft chose not to use it.
3. Alessandro Valignano in real life showed respect for other races and cultures. For example, he thinks Jesuit missionaries should learn the Chinese language to have greater success in converting the locals at Macau, rather than forcing the locals to learn Portuguese.
4. It should be obvious that Yasuke, as a servant of Oda Nobunaga, should not wear better looking armor than Oda Nobunaga's.
5. Kamiizumi Nobutsuna was a samurai in Japan's Sengoku period famous for creating the Shinkage-ryu kenjutsu. However, he passed away in 1577, it's not possible for him to teach Yasuke kenjutsu in 1581.

You may ask "who cares about historical accuracy"? Well, I think Ubisoft, which claims to respect Japan's history and culture and also claims to do a lot of historical research, should care about historical accuracy. At the very least, they should try their best, such as not reviving dead people or turning a spear master into a kanabo master.

Many famous ninjas appear in the game, such as Momochi Sandayu (also known as Momochi Tanba), Hattori Hanzo, and Fujibayashi Masayasu (also known as Fujibayashi Nagato), as well as Ishikawa Goemon. Although Ishikawa Goemon isn't a ninja, but he is a thief, he fits well in a Assassin's Creed game, and according to legend, he once tried to assassinate Toyotomi Hideyoshi.

Instead, Ubisoft chose Yasuke, whose status as a samurai is still debatable. We all know why Ubisoft picked him as the protagonist.

Reminder that:

Shadows’ creative director Jonathan Dumont explained that “We were looking for ‘our samurai’, someone who could be our non-Japanese eyes” adding that “The team liked the character of Yasuke and thought we could use him to discover Japan.”

An interview video where one of the developers says something similar to "we filled the gaps in history with our story" (which is shown on the thumbnail), which quickly gained attention from Asian players

Unsurprisingly, the phrases "our samurai" and "filled the gaps in history" were mocked by Asian netizen.

In case there was ever any doubt at how regarded Netflix showrunners are... Here's your proof.

So now that NMC has released with...mixed results. So I figured which of the two western made media based off of Devil May Cry is the best...or worse.

Which is more disrespectful.

which is more tryhard.

which is more idiotic.

You decide.

You're welcome