Let's just agree to disagree. I do not condone the culling of life in any avenue if it is fixable without the destruction of life that never deserved it in the first place.
For instance, we have an incredible problem with pythons in the state of Florida and they reproduce at a rate that cats/dogs would blush. We actively do culling tournaments because they kill all species (including native bird species in the Everglades) at a rate far worse than cats. They're an invasive species that never belonged in our environment. This is a natural occurrence that some moron introduced from another environment that is incredibly difficult to control even in normal moral standards.
Cats and dogs on the other hand are a domestic creature all over the world that we absolutely have the ability to control and create but it's up to us to keep in check.
Many countries have implemented the TNR program successfully without massive culling of cats and dogs and the death of the local biome. Please, keep advocating for such programs instead of just mindlessly killing a species that didn't ask for this. They have personality, and want to live and more.
Keep in mind, we are the ultimate predator and have the ability to control all life on this planet as we see fit (as bleak as that sounds).
For instance, we have an incredible problem with pythons in the state of Florida and they reproduce at a rate that cats/dogs would blush. We actively do culling tournaments because they kill all species (including native bird species in the Everglades) at a rate far worse than cats. They're an invasive species that never belonged in our environment. This is a natural occurrence that some moron introduced from another environment that is incredibly difficult to control even in normal moral standards.
This paragraph fits perfectly for stray cats too.
They're an invasive species that never belonged in our environment either (unless you are from Northern Africa). This is a natural occurrence that some moron introduced from another environment that is incredibly difficult to control even in normal moral standards.
The estimates for pythons in Florida range from 100 000 to 300 000. I can't find numbers for Florida alone, but US wide it's about 80 million pet cats and 60-100 million strays. That's much, much more.
But cats are cuddly and pythons aren't, which is why you are happy clubbing pythons to death while you are happy to sacrifice the lives of billions of birds to fluffy stray cats.
instead of just mindlessly killing a species that didn't ask for this. They have personality, and want to live and more.
And pythons did ask to be culled? Pythons don't have personality? Pythons don't want to live?
You are basing the whole thing just on which animal is fluffy.
Now we're getting into the field that all animals have a personality yet this has yet to be proven for reptiles. I'm not basing this on whether the animal is fluffy or not. Danger noodles are awesome but TNR does NOT work for reptiles as it does for cats/dogs.
Anthropomorphizing everything is not good.
Edit: I'm just gonna put it out there, I respect your view and I hope you respect mine. I think we both can agree that the loss of life to all these species is terrible and we as humans created this problem. Let's continue to work together on a solution that matters to all life. Not just one species.
See, the issue with TNR is that a cat that has been TNR'd will continue to live for years. Acording to google, the life expectancy of a stray cat is 10 years. A free-roaming cat kills between 59 and 123 animals per year, a stray cat likely kills more.
So TNRing a cat instead of culling it means that roughly 600 to 1200 animals die as a direct consequence of this choice. TNR prioritizes a stray cat's life by a factor of roughly 1000 over the life of wildlife. Roughly 16% of the species are endangered, while cats are one of the most abundant species world wide.
Birds, mice and many other small mammels have just as much personality as cats.
Edit: For comparison, a python kills between 10 and 25 animals per year and also has a life expectancy of around 10 years. Killing a young python "only" saves around 100-250 animals.
And to make sure I'm not misunderstood, I'm just argueing the point, not the person if that makes sense.
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u/Koibo26 6d ago
Let's just agree to disagree. I do not condone the culling of life in any avenue if it is fixable without the destruction of life that never deserved it in the first place.
For instance, we have an incredible problem with pythons in the state of Florida and they reproduce at a rate that cats/dogs would blush. We actively do culling tournaments because they kill all species (including native bird species in the Everglades) at a rate far worse than cats. They're an invasive species that never belonged in our environment. This is a natural occurrence that some moron introduced from another environment that is incredibly difficult to control even in normal moral standards.
Cats and dogs on the other hand are a domestic creature all over the world that we absolutely have the ability to control and create but it's up to us to keep in check.
Many countries have implemented the TNR program successfully without massive culling of cats and dogs and the death of the local biome. Please, keep advocating for such programs instead of just mindlessly killing a species that didn't ask for this. They have personality, and want to live and more.
Keep in mind, we are the ultimate predator and have the ability to control all life on this planet as we see fit (as bleak as that sounds).