r/MadeMeSmile 6d ago

CATS This is a great idea

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u/Koibo26 6d ago edited 6d ago

TNR is a thing and it works. I understand your sentiment but if you are just as worried as the rest of us, take part and actually do the practice instead of advocating for the starvation of a particular species. We all have a place in the world.

It's up to us humans to actually be better in all avenues.

Edit: Grammer

Edit for those who want information on TNR: https://www.alleycat.org/our-work/trap-neuter-return/

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u/littlereptile 6d ago edited 6d ago

You cannot support your statement with a biased source. TNR does not work--otherwise, all colonies that have been TNR'd would no longer exist. Here are two resources showing that TNR does not work: AVMA, American Bird Conservancy

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u/Koibo26 6d ago

Your first study page does not exist and it could be equally stated that your second page is biased.

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u/littlereptile 6d ago

I edited that first link. I'm not sure how an international organization dedicated to conservation of native species is the same as Alley Cat Allies given how cats are invasive and should not be afforded special treatment. Here are a few more studies. TNR alone is pretty worthless and a waste of money when the cats can just be euthanized.

It took one cat a year to fully eliminate a species, so I don't see how sixteen years of letting invasives roam is a good thing. Not to mention all of these cats die horrible, gruesome, unethical deaths in "the wild" rather than at a vet's office...

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u/Square-Singer 6d ago

Even if TNR would work: A free-roam cat kills about 1000 animals over its lifetime. A stray cat kills more.

By choosing to TNR a cat instead of keeping it in captivity or culling it, you are directly choosing the death of 1000+ animals. And about 16% of the species hunted by cats are endangered.

TNR is choosing the wrong side on the trolley problem.