r/MadeMeSmile Oct 12 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

A $1000 a month even with insurance? 😳

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u/SuperHam289 Oct 12 '21

Sometimes you’re unlucky and insurance won’t pay for it just because you need it

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

A sensible person would argue that's exactly what insurance is for.

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u/LokianEule Oct 12 '21

This is one thing Obamacare tried to address. Shitty insurance companies that won’t cover the exact condition that needs covering.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

Did that end up going anywhere?

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u/LokianEule Oct 12 '21

Yes it did. Though I do not know the finer details. But it’s to stop insurance companies from rejecting people with preexisting conditions who are trying to sign up with that company

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u/Chpgmr Oct 12 '21

Which is exactly what saved my life as a diabetic. Diagnosed with diabetes under my parents plan and would have been denied coverage once I would be kicked off my parents plan.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

That's horrifying, good god.

The fact that there are states which have blocked Obamacare so people like yourself would not be covered... as a parent i cant even...

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u/truci Oct 12 '21 edited Oct 12 '21

To give you a bit more detail. Insurances have fair and agreed upon prices those are the “negotiated” prices on things you agree as a customer they will cover (often pre existing conditions or long term medicine is not covered), usually it’s the hospitals actual cost to operate plus like 50% instead of the non negotiated prices of around 5000% price hike. Obama care was at first essentially an insurance that didn’t really pay for anything but covered everything. It opened with a 50% coverage of costs however on everything. The point of it though was that every citizen would get the fair negotiated price never the random inflated one.

Too many rich people and politicians get hand outs from the healthcare/insurance orgs so Obama got so much push back that the compromise with the GOP became to let private insurance regulate Obama care themselves so that government insurance would make money instead of being a break even service. They simply increased the cost every year until trump came around and Obamacare was now more expensive and covered less than regular insurance. So they started shutting it down.

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u/galileosmiddlefinger Oct 12 '21

Stop calling it Obamacare. That's a label invented by Republicans to vilify a sensible policy. It's the Affordable Care Act, and it polls much better with people when we use its actual name.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

Not abolished.. held to a higher standard. Can’t just go around destroying shit that exists for a reason.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

Surely you don’t believe that a profit motive = bad and must be destroyed

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

No, insurance is for paying out claims for what you contract to be insured.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

Right and when I sign a contract, I expect straightforward and objective insurance policy, not some snakey money scheme I have to deal with every step of the way.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

Right and when I sign a contract

You apparently don't read it.

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u/PlasticStain Oct 12 '21

Your dumb ass didnt read it either you just dont have a medical condition that requires life saving medication. Don’t pretend you’re better than someone with diabetes just because you were lucky enough to not have it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

I might not read it, but I wouldn't blame someone else for that.

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u/PlasticStain Oct 18 '21

Then you can fuck right off you big insurance shill bastard

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Man, what a world when expecting people to read what they sign makes me a shill.

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u/rodneyjesus Oct 12 '21

This part was always so insane to me. I do not understand how people believe we can't do better than this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

They've been brainwashed by right-wing media to think that universal healthcare = outrageously high tax rates. Though taxes would go up for basically everyone (except the bottom percentile of income earners), it would be offset by no longer paying health insurance premiums via payroll deductions. Especially workers paying for coverage for their whole family.

I believe Bernie even claimed with his proposed plan, the average American would pay less in extra taxes than they currently do for their insurance premiums.

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u/rodneyjesus Oct 12 '21

Yeah I'm on board

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u/andrei9669 Oct 12 '21

Nah, main thing they are bitching about is the wait time for treatement if every1 can be treated.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

They whine about that too but their main issue is definitely the taxes.

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u/TheMagus84 Oct 12 '21

But they forget about people who can't even afford to see a doctor here. They can wait decades for treatment. That's much longer than with universal healthcare. Or when insurance dicks you around & you end up waiting months for them to approve it.

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u/rustyshackleford193 Oct 13 '21

In Europe everyone can get treated, and wait times are a fraction of the ones currently in the USA system

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u/raaneholmg Oct 12 '21

Getting literally murdered by a for-profit company is not bad luck.

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u/FailedRealityCheck Oct 12 '21

Sometimes you’re unlucky being scammed and insurance won’t pay for it just because you need it

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u/ruskayaprincessa Oct 12 '21

Correct- if you use more insulin that month than prescribed (because you happen to have had unexpected high blood sugar that month… which could be triggered by having a common cold for example), you’ll have to pay out of pocket for a few extra pens to get you through to the date when insurance will pay. The cost can range to $650-1200 in my experience.

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u/Bojangly7 Oct 12 '21

Best country in the world baby!

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u/Dlaxation Oct 12 '21

Yeah makes you wonder what the point of having insurance is (hint: making middle men rich). We've been trying to get my diabetic wife on a pump for years now and insurance keeps making her jump through hoops. She's done everything they've asked and they still drag their feet.

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u/0xTJ Oct 12 '21

Insurance that's often linked to work shouldn't be a factor in whether or not you die because you can't afford treatment.

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u/Asisn-Guy Oct 12 '21

my dad has insurance and he pays $100+ dollars for a pen he has to take every week or so

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u/fancy_marmot Oct 12 '21

Yes, unfortunately. There are a lot of different types of insulin, and some of the cheaper ones don't work for all Type 1 diabetics. Many people need a combo of a few types. Type 1 isn't related to lifestyle, is not curable, and requires a lot of work to manage - unfortunately people do die because they can't afford the insulin that works for them.

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u/Girrafarig Oct 12 '21

I work for a doctors office and you’d be surprised how many of our patients begin going blind because insurance companies do not want to cover eye drops/injections/misc treatments to help preserve their vision.

It’s absolutely infuriating! They have insurance, but medicaid/insurances places so many roadblocks in the way of treatment!

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '21

$1000 a month without insurance is strange to most people