Can we just celebrate the new MH please ?

[u/Dato-29]

For all people worried about the lack of challenge in the base game of MHWilds since the reviews are out :

• Go play the game first if you want to have a correct opinion about it.

• MHWorld and MHRise both base game were also easy, MH4 and MH3 too in my opinion. I remember soloing white fatalis without sweating and I'm not an try hard gamer.

• Just wait for the Master Rank add-on or for mods on PC to increase the difficulty. Or play with some handicaps.

• And finally, if the challenge is really what you're looking for a game and you don't find it in MH Wild :

Just don't play it and move on.

I know it sounds frustrating, especially if you're wainting for this game for a long time.

But

Complaining every posts will not change the state of the game. At least wait Capcom ask for feedback when the game will be out. Please don't harras Capcom CM.

I like challenge too but I'm not an high difficulty type of gamer. So when a game is too challenging for me I just move on because this game wasn't made for me.

What I am looking for in MH is the exploration, learning the monsters pattern, mastering all weapons, build set, taking pictures, complete all the quests, interact with others players, helping new players, be carrying by others players, fishing, watch the faune, watch the dialogues of the NPC, and more... I play MH for all this, but if none of this interests you, just move on or wait for the master rank update.

The wait is almost over. How about we celebrate that instead of complaining.

[u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

Yall cant have nuance i swear, liking a game and being critical of it isn’t mutually exclusive

[u/FB-22 → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

reddit’s upvote and downvote/karma system is usually antithetical to nuance sadly. Game subreddits (and probably all others but that’s all I use reddit for anymore) oscillate between negativity circlejerk and positivity circlejerk.

Mass negativity -> “Is anyone else sick of all the negativity?” (1 million updoots) -> mass toxic positivity -> “we need to be real and accept there are problems” (1 million updoots) -> repeat

[u/VersaSty7e → u/FB-22]

I’m saving this comment to copy/paste. Every VG subreddit has this issue now.

[u/rpkarma → u/FB-22]

I see you too have been on the Stalker 2 sub lol

[u/user-nt → u/FB-22]

True that. I love the game—the combat and monster designs look fantastic. I can't personally speak on the difficulty yet since: A) I haven’t played the full release, and B) I have thousands of hours across MHGU, MHW, and MH Rise.

That said, based on reviews, it seems like I won’t be truly challenged until the TU updates and G-rank. But difficulty itself is a nuanced topic—everyone plays differently. My main gripe is the game’s subpar performance, though I have to say the art direction for monsters, weapons, and armor is an upgrade from World.

And maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but while the lively ecosystems are a highlight for many, if they’re tanking performance for what is mostly cosmetic detail, that’s a design mistake.

Like you said, I love the game and the franchise, but that doesn’t mean I won’t criticize it when necessary. Unfortunately, on this sub (and most gaming subs), you’re often either with the hive mind or against it—there’s rarely room nuance.

[u/TsumaniSeru → u/user-nt]

After thousands of hours each game, since freedom unite i also can’t judge the difficulty properly for base game.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Pitch32 → u/TsumaniSeru]

After thousands of hours each game, since the original on PS2, these comments are very impactful and I appreciate your weighing in on the subject.

[u/DisdudeWoW → u/user-nt]

yeah thats also for me. if perfomance is anything like the beta (sure as hell looks the same considering the benchmark) the game is simply not playable to a degree i would enjoy it. and im very much annoyed by the outright lying about optimization

[u/bartiti → u/FB-22]

The problem with Reddit is that subreddits are problematic by design because they are insular echo chambers with bipolar disorders.

[u/ReptAIien → u/FB-22]

This happens in every community. Online and off.

[u/weddz → u/FB-22]

I follow a lot of sports subreddits and it's the exact same way lol

[u/Talez_pls → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

This "toxic positivity" trend has been creeping up fast in the last couple of years.

The Civilization subreddit went through the same things a couple of weeks ago, when Civ 7 launched. Absolute insane coping about the state of the game while making dozens of threads that were very similar to the one we're in right now.

The game sits at 50% overall reception on steam, the lowest entry in the franchise since forever. They had to ship 3 emergency patches in the first week and write an apology letter to not make it a total desaster and calm the non-fanboys down.

I have no doubts that MH Wilds will be in a better state than Civ 7 at launch, especially since "difficulty" is relatively easy to fix with just a few downloadable quests where they jack up the numbers. The performance problems however are worrysome and I hope they make that a priority.

[u/graviousishpsponge → u/Talez_pls]

HELLDIVERS was painful of this.

[u/Pedro_64 → u/graviousishpsponge]

And complaining actually worked. Helldivers 2 was becoming such an unfun game to play where every good weapon was nerfed. Most of Stratagems (special timed attacks like a sentry, orbital strike, etc) were also shit. That lead to only one set of usable weapons and stratagem for enemy type.

After numerous threads, and specially the player count dropping, they changed their mindset and buffed a lot of stuff. Now we have a fun and challenging game 

[u/KavB91 → u/Talez_pls]

Happens with every game. Anyone critiquing the game is accused of "bitching". Constructive criticism is fine and should be welcome. That is how games improve because developers do listen to feedback where possible.

[u/Boamere → u/Talez_pls]

We're being made into the perfect consumers as a society, criticism seems to be considered a bad thing.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Boamere]

Exactly. So many people will defend what are essentially greedy multi billion dollar companies like it’s their poor innocent child

[u/tghast → u/Talez_pls]

I have left multiple subs over toxic positivity, I just hope this one won’t have to be one.

[u/Dafuknboognish → u/tghast]

Come back after 6 months and get some "I don't know what all the hate was about..." posts, for desert.

[u/SH4DY_XVII → u/tghast]

My guy it's already there. Been about 15 posts the last 24 hours from these weebs telling us how to feel. I wanted to throw up reading this one post alone.

[u/WanderWut → u/SH4DY_XVII]

Every.

Single.

Post.

Has some form of variation of this top comment:

“Idc about (valid/concerning criticism) I’m going to have fun matter what.”

With all of the replies praising his “unique and based” take. The irony is I don’t see people outright flaming the game in a toxic way, most of the replies are calm and constructive, yet the people who “don’t care” are at the front lines of every single post lol.

[u/Rayka64 → u/SH4DY_XVII]

weebs? in my (reads notes) Japanese game?

[u/tghast → u/SH4DY_XVII]

I’m hoping it’s a phase, though, I can weather it for a bit so long as it goes away once the game drops. I can stomach a bit of prerelease jitters, that’s normal.

What I’m not okay with is if the game does drop with major problems and we STILL have this issue.

I’m talking about a bunch of subs but the worst one I’ve ever been on, one of the ones I left, is r/Pokemon. Sword and Shield was the end for me, sub was like this before release and just got worse once it released.

[u/JustAnotherMike_ → u/tghast]

I had to leave a couple Sonic subs for the same reason. I can't even imagine the damage control and shutdown of criticism that Pokémon fans have been doing with SwSh and Scarlet and Violet

[u/aulixindragonz34 → u/tghast]

Dude the MH leak subreddit is filled with people with severe toxic positivity attitude.

If you question the game even a little bit it is massive downvote each time

[u/Dizzy_Meringue6856 → u/Talez_pls]

Monster Hunter has had this toxic positivity problem since World. 

If you critique anything on YouTube, Reddit, etc. people will be in there policing your opinions. You can’t disagree with someone’s positive opinion without being lambasted either. 

It’s gotten so obnoxious. 

[u/fezubo → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

Yeah, this is so ass. Can't anybody take any criticism before a game anymore? Discuss it reasonable? It's not only MH.

Yeah, doomsayers are going too far, I 100% believe Wilds will be great. But this attitude "everything must be hype" is really grating.

[u/Arquemie → u/fezubo]

I will buy it, I will play it as much as I can, I will love it, but I will still be annoyed if it's too easy.

My worry is that I won't have nearly as many hours in it if everything is easy. I'll enjoy it for the time, but the time will comparatively be very short if its too easy, which would suck.

I am both very excited AND very concerned.

[u/[deleted] → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

Seriously did people not realize after the hitstop debate that Capcom actually listens? I'm sure that was not a simple change.

[u/Greencheek16 → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

I've seen way more people act like the game will be unplayable trash despite the game not even being out yet. This isn't criticism, it's parroting what a small handful of reviewers said so they can be negative and bitch. It gets to the point where that's all people seem to want to do. 

When the game releases and there's issues, then you can post "criticisms". But at the moment, how do you know it even has issues? 

Now things with proof, like the Digital Foundry video, sure. But "difficulty" is super subjective. 

[u/Yuumii29 → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

Like having a nuanced opinion is crucified in a discussion thread. You either LOVE it or you HATE it.

[u/Esnneuisi → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

Yeah, but 90% of the discourse has been complaining about difficulty from people who haven't played the game outside of the beta. And a lot of posts have gone far past being critical, and is just painting capcom as the next Activision, trying to dilute the game into a micro transaction hell where they drip feed you the difficult content. Being critical is fine, but when you start hurting accusations at a beloved game company for little to no reason, expect people to jump on the defensive. We don't know what the entire game will be like. We just have some initial reviews mostly from journalists (and we all know how well that info can be trusted), as well as the beta. I had a ton of fun in the beta, and it never once felt like the difficulty was underbalanced or anything. In fact, it was a stark improvement over the literal breeze that was early mh rise, and rise didn't receive nearly this much backlash at launch.

[u/EtrianFF7 → u/Esnneuisi]

Post the links, haven't seen that sentiment once yet.

The beta monster also had inflated health pools and character jad poor gear. A majority of the reviews talk about it being too easy. You reference that you may not be able to trust the reviewers, generally that works the opposite way with them claiming a game is too hard.

If even the reviewers are saying the game is too easy then it is very easy.

[u/ChrisRoadd → u/Esnneuisi]

no bro we gotta trust the reviewers and not make our own opinions

[u/eX_Ray → u/Esnneuisi]

Are they wrong though? Since world the game got pushed more and more into the usual patterns of AAA junk. Selling vouchers, metric tons of dlc, subpar performance and now they are not even finishing the base game anymore and deliver it a couple updates later.

[u/Hephaistos_Invictus → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

Nuance? On the INTERNET? Have you gone crazy? This is no place for nuance! /s

[u/DaCheatIsGrouned → u/Numerous_Debt_5500]

It's not just criticism. It's staunch fatalistic opinions and grandstanding, completely blown out of proportion. There's hardly anything constructive about the incessant bitching that is happening in some of these posts. It's literally history repeating itself, and there is more than one review stating that the end game is healthy and that the easy part of the game is only 13-15hrs long. I wouldn't have a problem with the criticism if it was actually constructive and people had An open mind and were willing to be wrong. If you think other people lack nuance, then maybe you should look within and think about how nuanced you or others of the same opinion are being. You're entitled to your opinion, obviously. I don't think there's a right or wrong here, but people get on a high horse about their opinion, like its the right one. Just chill tf out, it's a fucking video game. I'm watching grown ass adults act like children, and I'm tired of it.

[u/SoftestPup]

Monster Hunter Wilds is a product being sold for money, not a gift Capcom is graciously bestowing upon us. Hope this helps!

[u/MythicalBlue → u/SoftestPup]

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[u/dumpling-loverr → u/MythicalBlue]

Can't wait for gaming to implode once GTA 6 releases with mixed reviews or even if it does not deliver the 12/10 experience that everyone was hyped about.

[u/Deblebsgonnagetyou → u/dumpling-loverr]

I'm fully betting on GTA6 being a mess at launch ngl. I have no evidence at all and I know nothing about GTA, I just have a feeling.

[u/Halloween1012 → u/dumpling-loverr]

with the publishers talking about how it should be worth even more than $70 it fucking better be a 12/10

[u/ExplainingObviously → u/dumpling-loverr]

I expect a decent campaign that leaves a lot to be desired and the most disgusting, grindy, sharkcard laden, loading time eternal trash multiplayer. Basically GTAV but worse.

[u/Dismal_Ad4737 → u/SoftestPup]

This, this is a product people buy with their own money that they worked for, it is not something capcom is doing for you they want YOUR money and it has to be worth it or they just exploit you.

[u/prox-86 → u/Dismal_Ad4737]

How would they exploit you lol. If you don't like the game you could go for a refund. You are talking like they are the Nigerian prince or sth.

[u/MrMario259 → u/SoftestPup]

Can't wait for all the bootlickers to find an excuse for all the signature CAPCOM mtx bullshit that'll bloat Wilds' store pages

[u/lansink99]

Holy fuck, you are allowed to be critical about things you love.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/lansink99]

This. I love Mario games but was disappointed by Super Mario Odyssey when it came out. I won’t just shut up because "It’s like that" or whatever. Same with MH, if I am disappointed, I’ll speak.

[u/ADHthaGreat → u/lansink99]

I’m critical about them butchering my favorite weapon, the insect glaive.

Ignoring the fact that the controls are just plain obnoxious (having to use both triggers on the same side simultaneously is incredibly awkward) now that L2 is focus mode, you no longer stay in the air after using enhanced attacks.

Yeah the new rising tornado strike or whatever it’s called is pretty cool, but it ends with you being in the air, un-enhanced, with nothing to do but the little pathetic un-enhanced air attacks. Such an unsatisfying way to end a super combo.

[u/teriyakininja7 → u/lansink99]

This! Idk what is up with gaming fans these days but this keeps happening in a lot of gaming subs I’ve been on lately. FF14 was the same when the latest expansion launched and people had critiques of the story. Nothing but toxic positivity in response. Same with DA:TV. Civ 7. Apparently liking a franchise means you’re not allowed to have any criticisms of it.

[u/Yes_ok_good]

[u/Shifty733 → u/Yes_ok_good]

You forgot "let's see you build a better boat then"

[u/NaZul15 → u/Yes_ok_good]

Saving this for every time someone is not allowed to be critical

[u/Scotty_Mcshortbread → u/Yes_ok_good]

Yes

[u/DisplayLeft8638 → u/Yes_ok_good]

Didnt expect Eva's art in MH subreddit, 😂 

https://www.instagram.com/eva__morozova__/

[u/Jasond777 → u/Yes_ok_good]

This is art

[u/837tgyhn → u/Yes_ok_good]

I'm glad people are calling out the difficulty instead of just accepting it. If the devs are paying attention, they have enough time to do adjustments in a day-1 patch.

[u/RoterBaronH → u/837tgyhn]

Changing balancing 1 week before release, even 1 month is not something you can do... it's not just about changenging some numbers.

[u/Schwarzengerman → u/RoterBaronH]

If there's one thing I've picked up about gamers over the years, it's the cope over day 1 patches is insane.

[u/JenovaCells_ → u/Yes_ok_good]

I’ll engage with everyone’s blind discourse once I review Wilds for myself, just like every other showered and well-adjusted person. Some things, like performance and Insect Glaive, don’t necessitate personally experiencing the game firsthand to criticize.

Difficulty—subjective—is not one of those things, and I don’t trust any of you because many of you thought Sunbreak was easy but the later monsters zoomed so fast it was borderline unfun at times and barely felt like Monster Hunter to me, meanwhile I coasted through Iceborne, GU, and 4U besides a couple endgame fights, none of which felt frustrating. But that’s exactly my point: I hated the wirebug mechanic for the arms race that monsters needed to counter it, and thus interacted with it less than I could have, to instead just brute force through. That is exactly why a “hole” in the ship (like difficulty) is not something you or any gamer dork with a YouTube channel or Reddit account can evaluate for me.

Everyone experiences MonHun differently because of all the variables and choices that can make hunts easier or harder. We’re not always in the same boat.

[u/ExplainingObviously → u/JenovaCells_]

What you seem to be missing is that $70 is a lot to some people and they don't have the luxury of buying lemons. And for others $70 is too much to give to a company that's not producing a good product as a matter of principle. You're welcome to play it and make up your mind. You're not welcome to insult people participating in valid discussion.

edit: dude posted an essay and blocked me. Not gonna read it lol.

[u/Pedro_64 → u/Yes_ok_good]

"just make your own boat" 

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Yes_ok_good]

God, I love these answers. Slapping those meatriders right in the face.

[u/TheCocoBean]

There are now more threads asking for people to stop complaining than there are people complaining. Not even threads about complaining, but people overall.

[u/bunnyUFO → u/TheCocoBean]

It's so funny that this is actually true!

Let's start a new trend of threads asking people to stop making threads complaining about people who are complaining about difficulty of mhWilds?

[u/dumpling-loverr → u/TheCocoBean]

It's just how Reddit works nowadays. Happens in every gaming subreddit for a very hyped game but didn't deliver the 12/10 experience to everyone that plays.

Can't wait for the GTA 6 community to implode next with the years of hype train it's getting.

[u/moonflare22 → u/TheCocoBean]

This is how reddit works every single time. Every game subreddit. It's so fucking dumb

[u/Mintyfresh756]

Aint no way you said if the game isnt for you just dont play it and move on and that we also shouldnt complain. If a monster hunter game is ever so bad that it isnt for me, they have beyond fucked up and I will complain.

Complaining about things not meeting your expectations is how things get better. And difficulty aside it is genuinely embarassing capcom still has unskippable cutscenes that fuck with multiplayer. Absolutely inexcusable.

[u/EtrianFF7 → u/Mintyfresh756]

Exactly, the copers are being disingenuous. The argument isnt that the game is bad. The game can be piss easy and its still fun to hit monsters with a giant sword. It could be more fun with some challenge that doesnt seem to be present based on reviews.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Mintyfresh756]

I will always complain if the game isn’t for me lol. Like what was OP on about? Monster Hunter games were for me honestly up until this game so if it keeps going good, I’ll be happy but if it turns too easy, I’ll complain.

[u/skroder]

“CoMpLaiNinG eVeRy pOsTs wiLL nOt cHanGe tHe sTaTe oF tHe gAeM”

I am not concerned with the difficulty but with the game’s performance.

Do you remember that fiasco last year with Dragon’s Dogma 2 and how the performance sucked? Yup, due to people complaining they eventually improved the game despite how “small” their team was.

We should not be accepting of these dogshit standards in 2025.

[u/GassoBongo → u/skroder]

I remember when a large number of people thought that DD2 was just an engine test for MH:W and the performance would end up being amazing because of it.

Good shit. Funny times.

[u/Nero_PR → u/skroder]

I remember and the community ate itself alive for months over it, and some more over very reasonable problems a majority had over simplified mechanics and systems.

I'm not dooming the game. I'll have fun with it for sure. However, I'll give feedback when it comes out about performance and how easy it is and get the message across that those should be a priority moving forward. It's how we'll get a better product eventually.

[u/AnubisIncGaming → u/skroder]

This is my concern. It could honestly be a silly baby game for babies and I’d play it still.

[u/od1nsrav3n → u/skroder]

Finally someone said it.

The game looks like absolute shit in performance mode on consoles. For those who want 60fps in an action rpg in 2025 have to play with Vaseline graphics.

I really wanted to play this on my PS5 for the trophies, but the performance <> fidelity is just crap. Luckily my PC can run it on ultra at 60fps (according to the benchmark).

[u/RailValco → u/skroder]

I tried DD2's demo recently, is that the improved state of it? I have no hope for Wilds now..

[u/skroder → u/RailValco]

Unfortunately, yes.

[u/Faramir420]

The performance is horrible and should be called out

[u/CubicCrustacean]

Wake me up when these preachy "please stop complaining guys :(" posts are over

[u/FtFleur → u/CubicCrustacean]

You’ll be in a coma for a while my guy

[u/Codename_Oreo]

Are you aware that valid criticism is GOOD for games? Blind praise gets us dogshit.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Codename_Oreo]

Blind praise will allow the next MH title to be even easier with worse optimization. Criticism will force Capcom to act towards making part of the franchise’s core aspects back into the games. From the reviews, it seems like even people who started with the 5th Gen will begin to see the casualization of the franchise first hand.

[u/UnrelentingCaptain]

leave the multibillion dollar company alone

[u/Dismal_Ad4737 → u/UnrelentingCaptain]

I cant fathom how so many people always try to defend billionairs and billion dollar companies. It is crazy to me, probably because they project themselves onto it and do not understand what kind of money that actually is.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/UnrelentingCaptain]

That’s exactly what they are doing. Dawg Capcom just wants your money now stop worshipping them

[u/Th3_Chazz]

How can we celebrate the game if so many people can't even run it the way it's intended to be played?

[u/VanLaser → u/Th3_Chazz]

We'll have another "Return to World", I guess

[u/Toilet_Flusher]

This post is extremely condescending. I am allowed to not like something. Fuck you.

[u/Yuumii29 → u/Toilet_Flusher]

Based.

[u/Toilet_Flusher → u/[deleted]]

I actually really like a lot of Capcom games. I love the monster hunter series. You are cringe.

[u/Piggstein]

Yeah you guys stop discussing the new Monster Hunter game in the Monster Hunter subreddit

[u/kingbrian112]

True, just cons00m

[u/schimmlie]

Reading the comments and Defending the poor optimization with „world had bad optimization too“ is like the worst excuse I could think off and you actually deserve the way it runs poor then.

[u/SH4DY_XVII]

Toxic positivity echo chamber.

[u/dumpling-loverr → u/SH4DY_XVII]

Reddit in general. Happened with the US election too lmao

[u/Sycoboost]

Please allow people to validly criticize a work without telling them to fuck off to another MH, or that it’s their fault for preordering their literal favorite game. You’re not improving the discourse by refusing to interact with fair critique. People tend to critique the games they love because they love them. Thanks.

[u/justlikeone]

corpo glazers will never be not funny

[u/thedemp]

Half of this sub: “It’s good thing that the game is not challenging! Stop giving constructive criticism!!!1!1”

[u/Hlidskialf]

I hate saying this but this community after World is crazy. Before World I could be critical about the games, I could trashtalk tri underwater mechanics that everybody would laugh about it instead being a bitch.

Now I can’t even point thing there are happen in their faces like beta being horrendous without getting downvoted and being called a doomer.

Its insane.

[u/TsumaniSeru → u/Hlidskialf]

I loved underwater combat ;( lagiacrus will never be fun outside of water

[u/Hlidskialf → u/TsumaniSeru]

I don't hate it. I prefer normal hunts but the underwater mechanic is dope af. Would be cool if they bring it back as optional quests but its too much work for just some optional quests.

[u/ToasterSnakeBA → u/Hlidskialf]

Community 100% became worse after becoming mainstream in the west with the World players.

[u/ExplainingObviously → u/Hlidskialf]

I think it's reddit as a whole. The people on here now are some new tier of soft. "If one person doesn't like what I like I simply cannot go on"

[u/unforgiven91]

lol so your suggestions to solve the difficulty issue:

"just mod this always online game"

"buy the dlc when it comes out"

and "make up your own bullshit handicaps to compensate"

hilarious.

[u/0x-existsonline]

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[u/Popular_Buy4329 → u/0x-existsonline]

not as bad as starfield at least

[u/Deviltamer66]

Criticise= not liking it ? Think a little harder next time pls before posting strawman stuff.

[u/Lazyade]

If I pay 100 bucks for a game on faith that it'll be a satisfying experience and it isn't then I'm gonna bitch.

[u/Ubeube_Purple21]

How do we celebrate if the game can't even run well even on high-end systems as advertised?

[u/Rabus]

Complaining every posts will not change the state of the game. 

Oh you are so wrong about it. Complainig will make people double think if they will pre-order it or wait for first reviews, impacting the initial sales, making internal decisions that will eventually either address it in an update or at minimum in the following game. You should definately also leave a respective review where you can to drive down the score.

Diablo 4 on launch (while i still dont like its current status) is a great example of a shitty game that due to uproar changed for the better (again, still far from what I'd like but better for majority of gamers)

[u/Boomer_Nurgle → u/Rabus]

Complaining got them to add hitstop and IG helicopter back

[u/Pedro_64 → u/[deleted]]

Love this comment. Though Rise already have everlasting meal buffs and I hated it

[u/WanderingTraderXyz]

My only gripe with the game is the performance issues. And for the dumb pc guys going to bitch and moan in reply, just know that people have dug into the games files and it has been proven it IS bad optimisation. A lot of the fauna in the game should not have such obnoxiously high polygons as they have alongside other stuff in the game like destructible terrain and such.

[u/WanderingTraderXyz → u/WanderingTraderXyz]

Otherwise I quite enjoy turning my giant axe spinning like a chainsaw.

[u/ConsistentStorm7997]

My problem is just performance really i know it's going to be a good mh i just dont want to support capcom crappie practice of releasing a game that clearly need more optimization

[u/WytchHunter23]

I've seen like 4 posts telling people too not complain and no posts complaining lol.

Having said that, feedback is feedback and people have a right to give feedback. Not all feedback is useful, but the only way for a dev to know if a majority of the playerbase wants a different experience is if the majority of the playerbase actually voices that.

I personally prefer my monster hunter tuned a bit tougher and fights on the 15-25 minute scale, but I also will enjoy this game regardless of the shorter fights and probably put in 200+ hours before any updates.

I don't think "just handicap yourself" is useful advice anyway considering how many systems in the game are designed towards making your character more powerful. I mean yeah I can purposefully handicap myself but I don't want a challenge I made I want a game that challenges me in its core progression path. I want the best gear to be a reward for the biggest challenge, not to just arbitrarily handicap myself for no extra gain.

I'm hoping that capcom has plans to dial up the difficulty over time, they usually do but people have mentioned a reduced roadmap and stuff.

Having said all that, I'm really looking forward to wilds, and ill play it heaps, and if I get to the end of my enjoyment without ever feeling challenged then there's still content I haven't finished off in world, sunbreak and mhgu.

[u/bwflurker]

the game isn't even out yet but the toxic positivity brigade is already out there, hard at work blindly shilling and defending a subpar product from their favorite big corp

[u/Zamoxino]

great now write up some "cope points" for helicopter IG players and no hitstop haters... oh wait, it got fixed cause ppl complained.

the earlier they will know that ppl want some real difficulty the better. they dont need to make story mode BDSM simulator but i hope the feedback will at least affect some event quests or optional tempered monsters with big amount of "difficulty stars" deeper in the game

[u/EarthBenderCharlie]

Honestly, I’m glad the OP is getting a lot of push back here because it tells me that more people are realising the value and important of nuance when it comes to feedback and expectations.

It’s completely possible for Capcom to have designed encounters to have a more steady increase of difficulty in a way that isn’t too extreme and doesn’t decrease the fun in a way which alienates players who just want to wack stuff.

The key is progression. Great Jagras is easy, Fatalis is hard. Some players would just like a steady increasing curve between these two monsters rather than a mostly straight line followed by a sudden rocket to space at the end. This is a completely reasonable request which isn’t shot down by “just go play something else”.

[u/NanoNarse → u/EarthBenderCharlie]

The notable thing with progression is 5th gen was noticeably hindered by player power creep in both entries.

5th gen hunters are exorbitantly more powerful than ever before, to the point where it exceeds the capacity of the combat design to create organic challenge. That's why we had more of a straight line-rocket ship progression. Capcom were pushed into manufacturing difficulty in more gimmicky ways.

World leaned heavy on one shot mechanics and timers. And yes, while that made Alatreon, Fatalis etc challenging, it also made them frustrating for a lot of people.

Rise did away with them, but never managed the same difficulty with it's updates. I beat PrimeMal on my first attempt, for instance. Instead, Sunbreak leaned on the anomaly system, which was just an increasing number bloat to the point of absolute tedium.

So hearing that 6th gen hunters are now even more powerful raises serious concerns not just with whether difficulty will be added, but how Capcom will get there.

[u/EarthBenderCharlie → u/NanoNarse]

True and real. This topic reminds me of what Grinding Gear Games have said about Path of Exile 2.

The game director of that game has openly said how he wants his bosses to defeat the player at least 1 time before the player is able to get the win. Obviously this can’t be forced because it’s contingent on other aspects which are outside of the designers control such as player skill, class choice, bugs/exploits, etc. But the intent behind the design is what I think is meaningful here.

Monster Hunter doesn’t need to have this exact design philosophy but I do think there is a happy medium where a page out of this design book can be adopted in a way which still keeps the fun and new player friendliness intact.

[u/diodss → u/EarthBenderCharlie]

There is more granularity than number of carts imo.

How many potions the hunt cost? Did you had to use traps to get an advantage? Flash bombs? Regular bombs?  Had to target specific body parts to reduce some monster ability? (gycepteros crystal for example)  Had to rely on your palico skills?  Fsrcasters to run away? 

There is more to the difficulty of a hunt than number of carts. 

[u/EarthBenderCharlie → u/diodss]

100%. I don’t disagree with this at all.

[u/Thorbadinu → u/diodss]

Tbh didnt have to mind any of this other than flash bombs for flying monsters in world

[u/Rayka64 → u/EarthBenderCharlie]

i mean i understand but i don't like the lean of "capcom intentionally did this for money and greed!" bullshit that is popping up lately, it seems almost a trend to pretend incompetence as malice.

[u/Buuhhu]

Honestly, no... what you're trying to make this sub is a toxic positivity sub where no bad is allowed to be said.

I get that you may be bummed by the negativity but trying to get everyone to be only positive is also not good.... It's called nuance, something can make a game worse, and in this case making the game too easy is making the game worse for a lot of people, but they can still enjoy the game and complain that it would have been better if game was a bit more difficult.

[u/g_hunter]

You’re telling me to pay capcom for a badly optimized game, and be happy with it? Especially when World exists; runs great on current hardware, and overflowing with content.

[u/CameronLabbe]

Finally the post complaining about complaining

[u/Maxximillianaire]

"Just don't play it" has never been a valid response to criticism

[u/Animapius]

No? If game has serious problems they better be fixed asap. The stronger players response we make, the better product we eventually get.

[u/badblocks7]

1) I am pretty bummed about some things I’ve been hearing and seeing with the game. No home for displaying endemic life is a small thing but something I was REALLY looking forward to, I loved it in base world. I’m not a huge fan of the art style and how the colors seem kind of washed out a lot, even in the plenty. I’m concerned about the difficulty— I know the series has been getting progressively easier but to hear people say they didn’t even have to craft new gear? That’s like… the point of the game. 2) I am so, so, so excited to play it. The combat feels SO good and I’m eager to just walk around the world, taking in the views, watching the wildlife mill around, catching all the details.

I can have concerns and celebrate

[u/Sazo1st]

🚨🚨 Guys be positive at ALL COSTS 🚨🚨

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Sazo1st]

STOP USING YOUR BRAIN GUYS!!! 😭😭😭

[u/RageZamu]

I am sorry but celebrating Wilds and telling the truth after I play it are two compatible things. Capcom is known to hear us players, and their feedback response is top notch. I will be respectful, but I won't shut up if I see something wrong. Same thing goes for the opposite, the beta alone was fantastic and I can't wait to enjoy more of the combat system.

[u/Similar-Story4596]

Every video game subreddit I'm in is shitting themselves over the new releases of the new game, dark souls, monster hunter, atelier, it's the same thing everywhere. Only yakuza fans are chill enough to enjoy

[u/Jeddy2]

I really don’t give a fuck about the difficulty.

What I do care about and have every reason to believe it will suck for me is performance. I’ve run the benchmarks and played the Beta and it either looks ok and runs at 45 fps with DLSS or it looks like a smudged, ghosting mess and runs at an acceptable-ish 80 fps (doesn’t actually feel how that frame count should, but it’s stable enough) with FSR framegen.

I don’t think a 3090ti and I9 11900k should struggle this hard with a game that ultimately looks worse than MHW once you slap all the necessary graphical crutches on to make it run tolerably.

I’ve seen DD2 brought up as a positive example somehow, even though that failed tech-demo did nothing but prove that we shouldn’t be putting sprawling open world games on the RE Engine because it had a ton of the same technical issues that plague MHWilds. No, I don’t want to wait 6 months after launch for the game to run sorta better than it did before.

I have 0 reason to want to be concerned and critical of the game, World’s one of my most played games of all time and I’ve been waiting for this game since its first announcement, but I can’t muster the levels of hype that the game SHOULD warrant, knowing that it’ll run horribly for me.

[u/Suitable-Departure-5]

fking soft

[u/nin_ninja]

Hey OP, how about people are allowed to have opinions

[u/IgorFrt]

Yeah defend this shitass engine for open worlds

[u/Serito]

No. Why is it every time there's criticism it's not allowed? Why are all flaws dismissed?

Why is it just because it has been this way in the past it has to be this way now? Why can't Wilds be the first base game that's not just an easy tutorial for full price? Why do I have to spend above average game price to get the feature complete game?

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Serito]

You are asking too many questions. They just want to defend their poor child named Capcom… He only has a few billions I swear…

[u/NegativeCreeq]

Monster Hunyer needs difficult and challenging monsters for the gameplay loot.

It has always been about preparing for a hint, hunting a monster, using materials to get stronger to take on more challenging monsters.

If there's no challenge why bother with the loop.

[u/Brokine]

You'll eat your slop and you'll enjoy it

[u/theShiggityDiggity]

I'd be celebrating if the port wasn't shit.

If you can't release an optimized port for PC in 2025 your company is a joke. There's genuinely no excuse for games running better on console than PC.

Capcom has been dropping the ball hard on any game that doesn't have Resident Evil in the title, and it's so fucking sad.

[u/FlyingAssBoy]

However the game turns out I am real happy I only paid 55euro on Greenmangaming for this mess.

There's no way in hell Capcom is getting full price from me for this

[u/CptWursthaar]

Your post in a nutshell is basically : „turn your brain off and consume/enjoy the product“

No, I can‘t just enjoy the new MH game if they take away even more of the game formula I fell in love with.

I‘m not just talking about difficulty. I‘m talking about tracking/finding the monster, have ressource management instead of endless item restocks, having a farm to build up. They just sacrifice so much of the MonHun DNA for a streamlined mass appeal, that it slowly is losing it‘s identity.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/CptWursthaar]

I just saw some people say that "No grinding this time around was a good thing" like do they even like Monster Hunter? 😭 They just want it to become a generic boss rush

[u/CptWursthaar → u/KirbyTheGodSlayer]

yes exactly my thoughts. wen some reviewers liked only upgrading the weapon twice in the whole story and getting full armor sets after 2 monster kills max.

Don‘t play MonHun if you don‘t like grinding. It‘s a grinder ffs.

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/CptWursthaar]

For real, it feels like praising a Mario game because you only had to jump twice like what?

[u/IndependenceAny2739]

I mean, most people can't play it so no

[u/V4RG0N]

Weapons need the impact they had in world

[u/team_chalise]

Absolutely love the picture. :D

[u/ChuckCarmichael]

Go play the game first if you want to have a correct opinion about it.

Just don't play it and move on.

So which one is it? I need to play the game before I can criticize it, but if I criticize it, I shouldn't play it.

[u/Animefeetsucker]

I fucking hate that we need to wait and eventually pay for G class, when EVERYBODY knows that’s what true Monhan content is. Having G class already in the game is not unreasonable.

[u/Ok_Adhesiveness_9323]

Hard to enjoy the game when a rig that can run World at 1440p max settings at 50-60 fps gets like 15-30 in Wilds at 360p

[u/Storm_373]

it’s a game but ur 1st born child.

[u/Impressive_Ad_6197]

Both performance and visuals are my only problems with the game

[u/Aman632]

It's not the lack of difficulty claims that bother me. Its the one's saying it lacks difficulty compared to world or rise. To a new player, sure. Could've been more difficult. But to veteran players? They were both easy. Same with generations, same with 4u. Once you get the grips on the series it is easy bar maybe a handful of specific fights. Calling it too easy compared to other monster hunters is just weird

[u/DepressedAndAwake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1ixhgah/question_when_generation_release_did_people_and/

Just gonna leave this here. Look through the top comment of this post, and be ready to have your mind blown

[u/jaru1020 → u/DepressedAndAwake]

Bad example.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/monster-hunter-world/critic-reviews/?platform=playstation-4

Just gonna leave this here. Look through the reviews and be ready to have your mind blown.

In case you have your head too far up your own ass to see reality, there were critic reviews in World that claimed the game was difficult. This is not the case in Wilds. Not a single review said Wild was challenging.

[u/G3ck0 → u/DepressedAndAwake]

Generations was known to be easier due to hunter arts, and the difference is every reviewer wasn’t complaining about the difficulty.

[u/nerdthatlift → u/DepressedAndAwake]

I feel like I'm facing my own mortality looking back that the first time I played MH was 17 years ago.

[u/EtrianFF7 → u/DepressedAndAwake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/s/IJA6Kkmc76

Ill leave this here. The guy is disingenuous and found a cherry picked post that he doesnt even believe in. Here you can find him claiming "world has the hardest monsters."

Almost as if you search a sub with a million people you can easily find some post to fit your narrative.

[u/thebonkasaurus]

This shit costs $120 here. So no I won't just blindly celebrate a game that looks like ass on console, runs terribly on PC and seems to move further away from the reasons I enjoyed the series to begin with.

[u/Most_Caregiver3985]

Stop rewarding poor optimization 

[u/Brodylee13]

Man I'm worried about the performance lmao, can't even load the benchmark cuz it crashes just before it loads, beta was also a mess and I have a beefy pc too, ridiculous optimization these days on video games.

[u/[deleted]]

Im not gonna blindly spend 80€ ! on a undercooked game

[u/TheSilentTitan]

I’m just mad there’s no player home like or cantina. Kinda just want one major hub tbh.

[u/Kesimux]

Where are all the people saying it was just the beta, therefore the performance was so bad?

[u/Haedono]

i will have an hard time no matter how eazy this one will be. In most mh titles i played with the same 7~9 weapon types and this time i realy want to embrace the ones i havent touched like at all for years.

Cant wait for me to realy fuck up and spin into attacks with dual blades XD

[u/rhxxi]

I ll celebrate if the game runs well.

Which does not seem to be the case afaik.

[u/heyitsvae]

Reddit is an echo chamber of posts complaining about redditors complaining

[u/TheEmperorMk3]

I will celebrate when it doesn't run like shit on anything weaker than a 4090

[u/Luxamongus]

Heck of a time to be someone who can't play the newest game and is just replaying World. I'm just seeing the discourse over the new game in my periphery and getting flashbacks to when people said MH Tri was too easy.

[u/ProminentSquire]

Guys, as someone that has been farming Double Rajang in the arena on Freedom 2 ( psp), difficulty isn’t an issue. Go with no armor if you want hardcore experience lol. Plus am sure they WILL release challenging content as time passes! Enjoy the ride!

[u/-Hazeus-]

Telling hardcore fans „just don t play it“ is wild.

I will love this game and play the shit out of it. But difficulty will make the difference between 500 hours and 1000 hours for me. Rise was already too easy and made me lose interest quickly so if all reviewers are telling me that it is even easier than base rise i am concerned and i will voice that.

[u/SaIemKing]

Criticism won't hurt you. Touch some grass, man. Idk what else to tell you

[u/HSGUERRA]

The "please don't harass Capcom" reads like a parody, NGL. It's a huge company selling a product for your hard earned money, not a charity organization.

[u/Wungobrass]

It’s a tradition at this point for every game to be deemed a ‘step back’ or ‘disappointment’ upon launch, only for people to warm up to it, and then eventually reference it as the gold standard when next a follow up game is released

[u/Nacon-Biblets]

guys please circlejerk with me I cant jerk it by myself

[u/AuroraMercenaryCo]

When they give me back my dog we'll talk.

[u/Deer_Ossian]

Ball-flattening enthusiasts when their game is fun and balanced and has more to offer than unfair boss fights: "Game is for babies. World was better"

[u/Axolotljackbox]

No. Absolutely not. Now stare at this baby paolumu and rethink your life choices.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Pitch32]

The moaners are gonna moan, brother. It's what they do. It'll die out. This is their time. Different people have different ways of approaching things, some of them find solace in complaining with one another; maybe even going so far as to say it's like finding a way of expressing their fandom by being disappointed together. Obviously in this case, it's more annoying up front because it's before they've even played the game, but unfortunately posts like this aren't going to lessen it. You've just gotta recognize it for what it is and move on. It does put a bit of a pall over the community as a whole, but it won't last long after the game actually comes out, which is only 3 days away! It is indeed a time to be excited for many, just.. not for them. And that's alright. The community will be coming to life in a new way very soon.

[u/throwthiscloud]

Please stop with the “just wait for master rank”. It is the cringiest, dumbest point ever. That’s like saying “oh you bought a car that ended up being bad? Just wait to buy the better one dumbass”.

I’m not super worried, because I have faith that if the bosses are Truely easy, they might change something before release. They have been really good with changing weapons around and buffing/nerfing things based off of feedback, so I have hope.

[u/Linkarlos_95]

Let me first see if the game wants to be played at 60 first

[u/LeonEvaluate]

Alternate title: Can we just blindly dick ride Monster Hunte Wilds.

[u/No_Original_5485]

Mhw had an extremely easy base game you could complete it in 2 days if you wanted to

[u/Codename_Oreo → u/No_Original_5485]

That’s correct, but the endgame had monsters that actually pushed back a bit. What I’m hearing from reviewers is that there’s none of that

[u/KirbyTheGodSlayer → u/Codename_Oreo]

There are some reviewers who said they didn’t even faint once in the entirety of their time with the game. I played MHW recently and got one tapped by a Low Rank Anjanath for being careless in the first Kulu Ya Ku quest. If even that is out of Wilds’ reach, it’s insane.

[u/nvmvoidrays]

i read reviews from long-time monster hunter fans like Josh, Gaijin, FightinCowboy, Arekkz, etc. and they all said about the same thing: the game is easy (not that they can judge it since they all have thousands of hours in MH) and there's issues like performance and some graphical hiccups, but one thing they all collectively agreed on is that the game is just fucking fun to play.

in the end, isn't that the most important objective?

my first real Monster Hunter was World (except for like a dozen hours in Tri, but, i fucking hated the Wii Pro Controller, so i didn't get further) and i breezed through pretty much everything until HR49's Tempered Kirin quest, which just required swapping for some Thunder/Paralysis resistance and it was back to coasting through the game. but i still played MHW pre-Iceborne for something like 400 hours just because the game was so god damn fun.

i do understand that people want the game to be challenging all throughout, but... if we want new MH games, Capcom can't survive on just the veteran/old guard sustaining the games. if they didn't for MHW, we probably wouldn't be anticipating Wilds. MHW is Capcom's best selling game, and i'm pretty sure between World and Iceborne, they account for nearly half of MH's lifetime sales, which is absolutely ridiculous.

that's why people are saying to wait for the inevitable Master/G Rank expansion, TU and event quests for the difficulty. considering how massively game production costs have inflated, if MHW/Iceborne had been another 5m game, i bet we would've been waiting a lot longer for Rise or even Wilds.

[u/ayaminator]

I can't even celebrate it, I'm returning the game

those false promises about good performance really annoys me, Capcom is one of developer to watch out at this point

[u/[deleted]]

I'm waiting until it's releases and play it :3

[u/Frozehn]

Rule #1 if you want to enjoy a game, stop going to its reddit sub.