r/MonsterHunter • u/Imagine_TryingYT • Mar 05 '25

MH Wilds Now that Shockproof is a skill

I better see every one of you longsword weebs sloting this on your build. No more "just slot flinch free bro". Slot this level 1 deco and you can no longer flinch your teammates with that 8 foot flagpole of a weapon.

For every longsword main I catch not using this skill I will eat 1 baby Seikret for dinner. No exceptions.

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u/AkuSokuZan2009 Mar 05 '25

Ahhhh, I am a normal lance slamburst enjoyer typically, but I was toying with a wide lance and couldn't figure out what the play style was supposed to be yet. Was trying to do the old poke shell with it and it felt off. Good info, thanks for sharing.

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u/dumpster_mummy Mar 05 '25

Try to combo into using wyrmstake cannon more than poking. Firing off wyrmstake cannon reduces the charge time needed for wyverns fire. On top of that, the second charge of wyverns fire is further reduced by the first blast, so if your opening is long enough, you can expend both charges in a matter of seconds, and get back to rebuilding them with charged shot.

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u/PrufReedThisPlesThx ​ Mar 06 '25

Using wyvernfire after most attacks, if not all of them, will reduce the time needed to charge it. Using it as a combo finisher, rather than a standalone attack, is the best way to utilise it. Personally, I enjoy having one charge in my back pocket for when the monster is in a punishable state, like spider flower whatsitcalled when it hops onto its web, as a big hit often knocks them over

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u/SirToastymuffin Mar 05 '25

Honestly the secret it the playstyle with wide is whatever you want. If you find yourself slambursting, atm it does comparable damage to normal anyway for one reason or another.

But the playstyle leaning into its strengths, yeah you don't really have to do poke shell, I usually go for the poke combo into stake as my engage, then pop some shells, guard reload the inevitable counterattack and then play it by ear. If the monster's not interested, you can just go for full burst combos (I recommend the new double burst for the most part), charged shelling can be slipped into openings for pretty sizeable damage and followed up with endless wyvern fire because 3 charged shots = 1 free WF. And frankly, I've had fights against faster or less predictable monsters where I just pop shells, quick reload, and sidestep around on repeat, because you can put out a surprising amount of damage without ever actually stabbing the monster, while being decently mobile and reactive. GL feels significantly more free in its options than previously imho.

If you're having some trouble with wyvern fire spamming, keep in mind that, at least with wide, it has a shockingly big range - even bigger than the fireball it produces, and trust me it is not a small fireball. I've also noticed that there's a much faster wyvern fire animation when used as a followup to perfect guard and full burst, allowing you to fully capitalize on the stagger windows both of those can potentially produce.

Also shelling actually scales off of attack which is huge for build options. Slotting skills based around attack actually makes better sense now, especially with some of the fun new ones. I've had burst, agitator, and offensive guard slotted at the moment and enjoyed getting strong retaliatory damage upon guarding through a monster's rage.

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u/Six6Sins Mar 05 '25

You get faster Wyvernfire after landing any Wyrmstake move. That includes the basic Wyrmstake after Wide Sweep, Wyrmstake Full Burst and Multi Full Burst, and your Focus Strike, but sadly, it doesn't include the mount finisher despite it ending with Wyrmstake as well because of the time spent for the Hunter landing after the monster topples. So fish for Wyrmstakes and then unleash the fire!

You also get faster Wyvernfire after a perfect guard and after a Wyvernfire, as you noted.

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u/yurilnw123 ​ Mar 05 '25

I think they swapped long and wide around. Wide is now for charge shells and wyvern fire. Long for wyrmstake.

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u/JSConrad45 ​ Mar 05 '25

Yeah, they swapped it back. In all the other games besides World, wide is for charged shelling.

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u/Eltain SW Vanguard Mar 05 '25

The new Charge system where you load multiple shells also synergies with Wide since their high dmg low quantity shells load faster

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u/Einsteinchen01 Mar 06 '25

Gark gunlance funnily has the strongest slamburst rn and is wide. You can basically do all gunlance playstyles with that thing