r/MonsterHunter • u/Remarkable-Being-796 • 10d ago
Discussion Whats everyone's opinion on gravios?
I hear alot of people say he's annoying to fight because he bounces off constantly. But to me he's always been a fun fight especially now with wilds allowing me to block his beams. To me he really feels like a titanic fight. But what are your thoughts?
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u/DegenerateCrocodile 10d ago
As of Wilds, more enjoyable than Basarios.
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u/user-nt 10d ago
Yeah, I enjoy fighting it more than basarios,
Basarios felt more bouncy and constantly dug around, so it wasn't a hard fight, just a very annoying one
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u/Administrative-Stop5 10d ago
That is why GL reigns supreme. Bouce? Hitzone? Those words are not in our vocabulary
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u/user-nt 10d ago
Un-ironically, it was fighting basarios with GL that made me wanna learn it and it's my second main with LS
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u/SteveoberlordEU 10d ago
Yeah same with Gravios, the ls keeps bouncing of so i tried the boom stick as a second main. Only changed with 4th gen when my love CB arived.
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u/FrostyRelationship79 9d ago
Tbf spirit slashes can't bounce, so charged spirit slash until red and then spam rt
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u/GarugaEnthusiast 10d ago
You ever fight Ruby Basarios? Because that one is even more annoying with its red crystals flyin' at you, when you're just trying to sharpen in peace.
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u/JPSeason ALBA GU BRATH 10d ago
Hunting Horns never bounce!*
(*If you keep Self Improvement active)
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u/Elementual 9d ago
Wait, that's one of its effects?! I use the hunting horn occasionally and didn't know that!
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u/JPSeason ALBA GU BRATH 9d ago
Yup
If I recall correctly, it basically gives you unsheathed speed boost and Mind’s Eye. Not 100% sure if it provides an attack boost though.
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u/Elementual 9d ago
Well dang. Gonna add that to my list of weapons to use if I'm in need of some easy mind's eye without decos. Though I've barely had run ins with bouncing in Wilds thus far.
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u/JPSeason ALBA GU BRATH 9d ago
Just wait until Rajang divebombs into the arena. It’s so nice not to bounce off the forearms.
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u/Elementual 9d ago
I remember that being pretty annoying in the last two games with how small that monkey is -___-
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u/KirikosKnives 9d ago
Swaxe in sword mode also has natural minds eye with no decos or skills needed
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u/Squade_Trompeur 10d ago
I keep forgetting its even in the game I never have a reason to hunt it. Basarios that is
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u/Imaginary_Ad7343 9d ago
Ngl, I didn't know he was in the game until I ran into a tempered one randomly
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u/Beneficial-Plan1629 10d ago
He grew on me over time in the earlier games. But now he optimizes a walking fortress that shrugs weak blows. He sounds old and rocky. Other monsters can not seriously contend with him due to his sheer defense and bulk
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u/GarugaEnthusiast 10d ago
If memory serves correctly, the only known predator to Gravios, is Akantor. That's it, nothing else, not even Deviljho, tries to mess with it.
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u/Stylin8888 10d ago
It’s worth noting Yian Garuga and Gravios are kinda comparable…so if anything…Akantor definitely is doing better than Jho in hunting higher end apex monsters.
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u/OceussRuler 10d ago
Akantor and Ukanlos are on a the highest height of the wyverns, and are probably dangerous even for the regular elders.
Gravios was during FU considered to be Rajang and Kirin tier. The hippopotamus or elephant of MH sort of. Considering how easily an Akantor can hunt one, it says a lot about the power of those god wyverns.
No doubt Akantor tear apart Jho. The best weapon of the pickle is raw strength and Akantor is simply even stronger and bulkier.
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u/KarlPc167 9d ago
Akantor and Ukanlos are above the regular EDs like the trio, Nerg, etc.
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u/Fondor_Yards 10d ago
Huh? How is garuga comparable to gravios?
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u/NigeroMinna 10d ago
No one fucks with Garuga. And I mean no one. He's not that strong. Heck he's weaker than his weight class. But if you try to fuck around with him, you are certain to find out.
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u/Matasa89 10d ago
He's like a chihuahua. Smaller and weaker than the big boys, but watch out for that pure distilled hatred - that bird is coming for you, and it will enjoy every bit of pain and suffering it can inflict on you.
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u/NigeroMinna 10d ago
Absolutely. And no one really wants to fight a chihuahua no matter how wild or deranged they are.
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u/berserkthebattl 10d ago
Honey badger energy. Become so much of a problem that predators just stop considering you prey.
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u/Fondor_Yards 10d ago
Yea, which is kinda gravios opposite. Gravios is huge walking tank with massive armour and firepower, and is relatively chill for a strong monster.
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u/Optimus_Prime-Ribs Big Pokey Stick 10d ago
Garuga is the Honeycomb mascot. Fueled by pure crackhead energy
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u/Lone-Frequency 10d ago
Have you seen Garuga?
It is the embodiment of chaos and fury. Like a Rajang with wings. Garuga gives zero fucks about anything coming at it, it will go HAM.
I bet Garuga would even try fighting Fatalis if Fatboy just rolled up on its turf.
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u/General-N0nsense 10d ago
Jho doesn't mess with it because rocks aren't tasty. Too much work to get to a meaty spot tbh.
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u/Financial-March-3158 10d ago
Akantor in Wild confirmed!?!? Jokes aside, I hope they introduce more giant monsters to hunt
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u/ddtink 10d ago
Epitomizes*
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u/Beneficial-Plan1629 10d ago
Thank you! I knew I spelt it wrong but I didn’t know how I spelt it wrong
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u/CoatedWinner 10d ago
Vs jin Dahaad he's pretty mid on the "walking fortress" but he's definitely a fun fight I just wish his armor was cooler
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u/KlinkerStinker 10d ago
I love him in Wilds. Just a big lumbering oaf.
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u/Ricky_Ventura 10d ago
I'll never forget the first time I "fought" one I was going after Rath and a gold crown Gravios just came in like big chungus and bodied him and carted me then split while I was eating/buffing like some giant, fat, mirage
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u/JazzzzzzySax 10d ago
It’s really funny when I don’t pay attention to my map. I’m just fighting Arkveld when all of a sudden this giant rock just runs at me shoots a laser and then runs off leaving me confused as hell
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u/Nkromancer 10d ago
So... Does this mean Gravios is the "new" invasion monster?
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u/BerserkRadahn 10d ago
No, since he doesn't appear everywhere like Bazel and Deviljho did in World. Arkveld probably fits since he is found everywhere.
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u/Nkromancer 10d ago
Fair. But imagine...
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u/BerserkRadahn 10d ago
Imagining a giant boulder of a monster flatten the Gypceros I'm farming sounds pretty hilarious.
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u/TheTerrar1an 10d ago
In the older games i found him pretty obnoxious, considering hes just a slightly squishier basarios. But Wilds really fixed him. Now he isnt as bouncy, and a lot more interesting, so i think he's pretty cool now.
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u/RedditReaper777 10d ago
What do yall mean by “bouncy?”
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u/Karoliskltt 10d ago
Think jhin dahaads ridges for example, you start hitting it interrupts your combo does 1 damage and just leaves you there like 👁👄👁
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u/octaffle 10d ago
If the monster's body is harder than your weapon is sharp, the weapon bounces off doing miniscule damage. Bouncing eats sharpness and has a delay before you can attack again.
Not many parts cause weapons to bounce in Wilds.
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u/Saumfar 10d ago
It kinda sucks that there's not any hard monsters in Wilds, tbh.
Only Gravios and Jin Dahaad makes one bounce in Wilds. I really wish fights had more nuance. Statuses are basically gone, no weapon bounces at all.
As a SnS player, my biggest problem is other players making me flinch...
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u/Karoliskltt 10d ago
If you play multiplayer a lot, shockproof jewel is your best in slot dps deco no matter what
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u/xNeoDarkness 10d ago
I just started MHF and I bounced more than 30 times fighting the first Congalala, specially when hitting the claws.
Also not only the statuses as you mention but the difference in wind pressure and tremor between both games is algo giant.
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u/BarbarousJudge 10d ago
Nerscyllas Fangs/Claws can also cause bounces. My story fight against it was annoying because my Doshaguma Greatsword constantly bounced off.
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u/OceussRuler 10d ago
It's the streamlining of MH. They don't like at all to create monsters people will hate. I liked the need of adaptation before, like getting the skill to ignore bouncing or playing ranged against Gravios but it's not how MH is made nowadays, for the best or worst.
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u/BudgetNoctis 10d ago
I love Gravios! It feels like fighting a Titan of a monster! Being ‘annoying’ added to the coolness factor for me because it’s so different and big.
It’s one of those monsters that aren’t necessarily difficult, but if it catches you sleeping at the wheel, you’re going to cart.
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u/Accept3550 10d ago
Gone but not forgotten
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u/Swordidaffair 10d ago
You made me Mandela-effect Gus from Roosterteeth being dead.
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u/Eyyy354 10d ago
He's fun, but his armor set sucks imo
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u/kyuuri117 10d ago edited 10d ago
I saw in the lance discord that apparently what his armor set says it does, and what his armor set actually does, are two different things. Apparently it does something like completely negate damage if the damage you would take is less than 5 or 10% of your remaining health, depending on 2/4 piece bonus. Or something like that.
And the reason that might be useful, is because of the chip damage you take when you block with a shield. So if you've got the gravios 2 piece and block, and the chip damage that bleeds through would be less than 5% of your total health, it just does 0 chip damage instead.
So if that's the case, and I have no reason to believe they were lying since that's easily tested, it's actually a pretty interesting set.
Unless you were talking about how the armor set looks. In which case yea it's awful.
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u/Eyyy354 10d ago
Yeah sorry I meant the look of it, but that sound interesting since I do main charge blade so that'll be a set for me to try out once I cover it up dx
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u/gloomplant 10d ago
Wait, for real? I had been trying to find armor sets that fit both lance and hbg. This might be worth a try.
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u/Fullmetal_Fawful 10d ago
I know gravios armor has been historically great for lancers in the older games, idk what its like in wilds tho
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u/kyuuri117 10d ago edited 9d ago
I haven't tested it myself and I don't remember word for word, but that was the gist of it
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u/ravstar52 The wall 10d ago
Apparently it does something like completely negate damage if the damage you would take is less than 5 or 10% of your remaining health, depending on 2/4 piece bonus. Or something like that.
Holy mother of typos, that's HUGE. There's a big difference between that and the written words. I'm going to go test that out later.
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u/ravstar52 The wall 9d ago edited 9d ago
So, i've done some testing, /u/kyuuri117, and i don't think that user was correct. Or rather, I think they've been mislead in their testing.
With Lance (and probably other weapons) you already take 0 damage if you block and you get the little shield slap animation. if you get slapped with a heavy attack, your hunter gets a little flattened by their shield and slides backwards (Knockback state). and if you get slapped with a very heavy attack, or have low stamina and block anyway, you get guard crushed and just eat it with your face.
Gravios armour only triggers at max HP, does not nullify the chip, and basically actually does work as written. it does not nullify chip with attacks that put you in the knockback state, does not nullify damage taken when guard crushed, and does not nullify damage taken directly to the face. The only time it helps is when, as the skill suggests, you get hit when you have Peak Performance active.
Edit: This is actually really really easy to test.
- Equip 2pc / 4pc gravios (i doubt it matters). Make sure you have at least 1 point of peak performance.
- Grab a lance with 0 guard and 0 Guard up levels.
- Go to the training room.
- Set the dummy to "Smash mode", "Normal", and "strength 1 star"
- get hit. to the face. sheathed lance, ideally.
- note how you take, like, no damage. Note the skill procs. note that peak performance wears off.
- Get hit again. note the damage is almost (but not quite) the same.
- get hit a third time. Note the damage is the same as the 2nd. (This proves that the gravios set bonus actually does do something.)
- go to the tent. Make no changes and Leave the tent. (this maxes your HP, stamina, and sharpness. yes, it does this in the rest of the game too. really neat trick.)
- now, unsheath the lance and block.
- Note you get put into the knockback state, but still take chip damage. Note that Peak performance wears off and the set bonus skill activates.
- block a few more attacks. note that from the 2nd onwards, they all do the same damage.
- go to the tent. equip a single point of guard (or switch to a lance that has 1 point of guard). Leave the tent.
- go block the attack. Note that you do the auto shield bash. Note that peak performance does not deactivate. note that the gravios set bonus does not activate.
- Go to the tent. Remove all the armour you're wearing.
- go block an attack again. note you still take no chip damage.
Edit 2: reading the user's chatlogs, they were also using arkveld's hunger. I suspect that was topping them back up for the minute chip damage they were taking. To which i say: just run 4pc arkveld hunger then. duh.
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u/kyuuri117 9d ago
That's pretty disappoint tbh, not sure why they would be spreading misinformation in the discord. The two people talking about it were pretty clear it was working the way I described in my comment. They weren't trying to convince anyone else, they were just discussing with each other how to make the build better because it worked the way they had described.
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u/catsflatsandhats 9d ago
Wish I had seen your comment before testing myself. Yeah, this is just misinformation.
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u/Uniqueusername_54 10d ago
Not my favorite monster, not the wall he was in Mh4u. So, fine.
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u/ItsBeyondMe 10d ago
Running into a gold crown Gravios was the most hilarious thing for me because as IG I’m usually able to pretty easily jump above a Gravios, but I could only get like 3/4 of the way up on the gold crown. 🤣
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u/Bluefootedtpeack2 10d ago
Hope they push the boat out with black gravios having him beam more and vent the heat out.
Currently gravios is fun but a little too sluggish and once that belly breaks you do numbers to him so having it maybe like jet more flame from their and only lose it after beaming could be neat so you dont just park in the one spot.
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u/Former_Economics4939 10d ago
Very fun imo, much better than whatever they were thinking with basarios in rise
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u/Mission_Ad_1227 10d ago
Embodiment of my grief
Only because I really wanted the gunner armor design for the helmet and am reminded of that loss every time I see the monster's name
Even the palico helmet is somewhat reminiscent of it
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u/LGWalkway 10d ago
Glass cannon. Water HBG kills in under two minutes. But I’ve missed fighting him so I’m happy he’s back.
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u/Spetsnaz_420 10d ago
A shell of his former self. His beam sweep has been absolutely gutted and he doesn't feel like an actual threat anymore
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u/OddCustomer4922 10d ago edited 10d ago
Laser Rock Chicken is best chicken. He also gives us arguably the best bow guns in the game.
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u/Squeakyclarinet 10d ago
I only wish the Focus Targets from his attacks lasted a tiny bit longer. I’m almost never able to counter them in time.
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u/VermilionX88 10d ago
i like blocking his lazers
makes me feel like the main character
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1jaw1g8/main_character_energy/
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u/Aggravating-Lie7411 10d ago
I love they input a bear roar into his. Sounds cool as hell and he's actually good to fight in this game.
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u/TatteredNine72 10d ago
The bear roar is hilarious as shit dude
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u/ComboBreakerMLP 10d ago
It’s the same stock bear roar from fucking Skyrim it KILLS me
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u/renannmhreddit 9d ago
It takes me out of it, it is like the same sound I've heard every bear make in every movie
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u/Big-Dick-Energy_69 9d ago
Only other time I fought him was in gu and I didn’t like him. But I liked him a lot more in Wilds
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u/Sneaky_Turtz 9d ago
I do love the small crown Gravios, lil pudgy boy. Also lmao blocking a full fire blast from him is literally hero moment!!!
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u/MikeysGhost 10d ago
I have never played any other MH title other than a tiny bit of the beginning area in rise. At first I thought his fight was annoying but that is partly due to the camera angle slightly fucking me every time because it is hard to tell when he is about to charge forward while I am under him and just me not knowing his patterns yet as a new player. But although that is still a problem sometimes I actually like that we have to break through his armor to deal real damage to him. It makes him feel extremely tanky. And I love that even though he has wings the most he can do with them is hover for a second and follow up by dropping his ass on us like an old WWE wrestler 😂
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u/Frodo_Nine-Fingers 9d ago
I hate it because it's a boring fight, not because I bounce (IG and CB almost never bounce).
He has no interesting attack patterns like Gore, or fun movement like Arkveld or Doggo, or interesting "mechanics" like Uth Duna or Jin Dahaad
He's just a big bag of health that you can't even fully damage because he's got armor everywhere. I'm pretty sure he's my least fought monster across the whole series
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u/Lira_Iorin 10d ago
Fun to fight honestly, trying to break the shell with a bowgun and the environment.
When it's sleeping or tranquilized, it has a loud snore. Really cute.
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u/MsF_1026 10d ago
Relatively enjoy the fight cause if can definitely kick my butt, however the bear roar he has is quite unfortunate
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Chunky boi is incredibly fun to bully with a dragon bow with Peirce coatings. So much body to pierce through, so many numbers.
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u/sangresinhierro 10d ago
Chonky man that is my favorite. Big lasers, cute snoring when they're captured, TACTICAL ROLLS, sleep, fire, paralysis, what more could you ask for?
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u/PoleManual2 10d ago
Chonky boi but armor looks mid. Why can't they make it look cool like havel set from dark souls.
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u/Mosaic78 10d ago
Sucks it didn’t get a quest in wilds. The only monster you see that doesn’t have one right?
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u/Churtlenater 10d ago
First monster I fought when I used Lance for the first time in Wilds. Walking THROUGH the laser beam while guarding was peak anime.
It’s a fun monster.
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u/Professional_Bank_22 10d ago
Me, a gunlance main, blocking his laser beams like I'm Captain America: "yes! Laser beam! ... do it again!"
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u/untolddeathz 10d ago
I mean. He's a classic. Could've put in something else but I get what they were going for. He's a longstanding volcanic region monster. I would've probably chosen something like the brachydios instead, but I expect a basarios. Monoblos is gone for a long time though so maybe not.
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u/LadySeraphii 9d ago
To this day I recall watching a YouTuber by the name of Octaneblue.
He got run over by a Gravios in 4u while entering a room, complete with edited truck horn, and got one shot it was hilarious.
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u/Worgalphihndor_ 9d ago
Is this a new monster because I feel like it was in rise but I feel like the one I fought in rise was easier and softer
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u/Shining_Ice_Crystal 9d ago
Gravios existed in older games. The one you're referring to is Basarios, which is only a younger version of Gravios.
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u/Worgalphihndor_ 9d ago
I thought something was off LOL. But regardless the fight was neat, I don't like the look of the armor.
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u/LordIlthari 9d ago
I like my hyper beam spamming chunky boi, though I still have no idea how to read an incoming gas attack
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u/News_Same 9d ago
"You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have dragons with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads."
-me every time I fight that walking castle.
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u/Inairi_Kitsunehime 9d ago
I love fighting gravios, dragon piercer spam through its length is so satisfying
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u/Piemaster113 9d ago
Chunky Boi but tail gives 2 carves when cut so I consider him kind of special for that
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u/Creative_Project3593 9d ago
He’s not too bad. He’s huge and can be a little of a pain but a good hunt nonetheless
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u/Rooskimus 9d ago
I love him and Basarios both. They're some of my favorite monster designs, just plump rock wyverns that roll all over you.
Also they require novel strategies to fight which is simultaneously a pain and a plus.
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u/joratrenter 9d ago
Really cool design and love to fight it now. Back in the day it was like fighting a mountain tho
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u/Snowman640 10d ago
He was a monster (he was there, his fight isn't awful, simply present and thriving)
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u/xVeluna Glaiver 10d ago
I find him rather annoying because of the giant hitboxes and seeming inability to avoid them. Every other monster is more reasonably sized, so it feels more doable to evade attacks.
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u/Mortalhydra 10d ago
I love the big boi. He's always been oddly memorable to me, even in the older gens
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u/ArtDragon9 10d ago
I’ve really never understood why people disliked him. He has been one of my favorite monsters ever, I guess it’s because I play hammer, so it doesn’t take much to break the armor
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u/xVeluna Glaiver 10d ago
I hate his hitboxes. Largest monster in Wilds apart from Jin Dahaad.
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u/kyuuri117 10d ago
The mini crown one is like the size of a Rathalos. It's hilariously small.
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u/rarutero 10d ago
Gravios Chunky, Laser strong, I like it.