r/MurderedByWords Jan 31 '25

#1 Murder of Week Your response is concerning, Bobby!

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u/cathedral68 Jan 31 '25

God can you imagine if Gore had won that long ago? Our trajectory would be so, so different 😢

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u/Similar_Vacation6146 Jan 31 '25

Gore did win.

Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.

The first survey, conducted on behalf of the Washington Post, shows that Mr Gore had a nearly three-to-one majority among 56,000 Florida voters whose November 7 ballot papers were discounted because they contained more than one punched hole.

The second and separate survey, conducted on behalf of the Palm Beach Post, shows that Mr Gore had a majority of 682 votes among the discounted "dimpled" ballots in Palm Beach county.

In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida's 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

A year later, in November 2001, the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.

NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.

The recount was paid for by a consortium of news outlets — CNN, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Tribune Company, the Washington Post, the Associated Press, the St. Petersburg Times, and the Palm Beach Post. But this was just two months after the September 11 terrorist attacks. The outlets patriotically buried the blockbuster news that George W. Bush was not the legitimate president of the United States.

https://theintercept.com/2018/11/10/democrats-should-remember-al-gore-won-florida-in-2000-but-lost-the-presidency-with-a-preemptive-surrender/

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Election was certified. Are you denying the legitimacy of the election? Typical dems denying elections since the turn of the century

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u/Similar_Vacation6146 Feb 01 '25

Yes. I think the person who wins the election by votes—and not political and legal maneuvering—is the one who wins an election. Crazy concept. Not a dem btw, but I'm sure that won't stop you from whining about it.

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

So you are denying the certified results of a legitimate election? Sounds exactly what people like to pin on MAGA

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

You don’t seem to grasp the concept of “proof”…

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Was the election certified or not? Would denying the result of the election certification constitute election denial or not?

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

Proof shows Gore won.

Proof shows Trump didn’t win in 2020.

This isn’t the gotcha moment you think it is.

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Denying the results of the election and its subsequent certification is election denial be it Gore or Trump

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

Denying proof that someone won the election but wasn’t certified and that someone lost the election and wasn’t certified is denying reality, bud. The fact that you can’t admit to this but have to dance around the issue with whataboutisms is telling

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Whataboutisms? Both cases are denying the certification therefore both are election denial. Cope harder

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

Except one case is built on proof and the other on rejecting it. They are not the same.

Cope harder, shit-for-brains

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Election denial all the same.

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

Still not the same. As I’ve said. Multiple times.

Are you this retarded or are you just putting up an act?

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Cope election denier

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

Cope illiterate wazzock

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u/Big-Opposite8889 Feb 01 '25

Weird how I'm illiterate yet can read and write. Typical election denier logic. Seems you have gone from coping to seething. Good... good.

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u/ExplodiaNaxos Feb 01 '25

Weird how you claim to be literate yet have no grasp on the concept of proof… Probably because it’s too inconvenient

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u/Similar_Vacation6146 Feb 01 '25

You're the one denying election results homie. Multiple studies corroborate that Gore got more votes in Florida. What should happen when one candidate receives more votes in a state?