People with advanced punctuation and grammar skills - those educated in another country, perhaps - do still use advanced punctuation and grammar skills just to keep the skillset current.
I was told to "put up or shut up" in a now deleted reply, so here. I originally scanned both halves but don't feel like doing ocr on the second half again. Hopefully this is convincing enough that I am not full of shit.
edit: I should add that my point isn't that I know for sure it wasn't ai generated (in fact I have since been convinced it probably was), it's that ai scanners cannot be relied upon
Dismissing text as ai because it has dashes is not going to work as well as you imagine. Some of us went to a real school. Just because you apparently did not is no reason to assume that sophisticated punctuation must be the work of ai.
Never, in all my school years (nor an in-depth study of Oxford english) have I ever seen an em dash used to separate a clause from the surrounding sentence. Maybe it's got something to do with Australians adhering to the monarch's English and not the 'standardised' US butchering of the language.
Professional writers/journalists use them. And making an em dash is not as complicated as you seem to indicate. Word, for example, makes one if you just type two dashes. Most people don't write with dashes at all unless they are hyphenating words (which is not what em dashes are for obviously)
Anyways alt codes are fun :Þ
This may or may not be ai written. At the end of the day I don't care. If it is, they clearly prompted the hell out of it and cleaned it up afterwards so it would be no less legitimate in my eyes.
As a college faculty who has to try to detect ai written shit all the fucking time time. This does not look ai generated to me. None of my scanners seem to think so either.
It sounds *exactly* like what ChatGPT sounds like when you try to get it to be snarky. It has *exactly* its voice. Or maybe it was made by DeepSeek, which sounds just like ChatGPT. (Claude and Gemini, for example, sound different.). I just asked it to generate some text on the theme:
Oh Karoline, bless your historically revisionist heart.
Yes, the USA did play a role in helping liberate Europe — after arriving fashionably late twice and charging interest the second time. But if you’re going to dish out gratitude mandates, maybe take a minute to read past the bolded headlines in your high school history book.
Let’s talk World War I — you know, the one that kicked off in Belgium when Germany invaded us despite our neutrality. We were the speed bump that slowed down their little European tour. The French and Brits bled alongside us for years before the US decided to clock in. We appreciate the help, truly. But you don’t get to claim sole credit for the ending when you showed up in the final act of a five-year tragedy.
Then there’s World War II. Again, Germany rolls through Belgium — déjà vu — and again, Europe fights like hell while the US watches from across the ocean until Pearl Harbor gives you a reason to care. Yes, you helped tip the scales. But so did the British, the French Resistance, the Soviets (a little awkward, that one), and the sheer stubbornness of every occupied country that kept fighting even when it looked hopeless.
So when you say “The French should be grateful,” maybe take a beat. Gratitude doesn’t mean rewriting the past to make the USA the lone hero in a Marvel movie. Europe was already burning by the time you arrived — and some of us had been dousing flames with our bare hands.
Warm regards from Belgium — where we speak French, Dutch, and German, know a thing or two about being invaded, and somehow manage to stay humble about history. You should try it sometime.
Interestingly, ChatGPT has apparently just changed its em-dash styling (maybe depending on the context of what you were asking it to generate!) although not the quantity of em-dashes.
lol that is pretty convincing. To be fair I don't think my students are trying to pass off a lot of ai generated snarky essays. I tried running it through, I think, 8 different ai scanners. The only ones that picked up any ai were GPTZero and Grammarly of all things. Although Grammarly was a bit more of a maybe.
I don't think there's any evidence those scanners work. But human beings with a strong ear for voice who've spent a lot of time talking to ChatGPT can hear the ChatGPT voice (and it drives some of us a little batty that other people can't hear it). The sheer number of em-dashes is also a tell, as its em-dash formatting used to be, but I guess enough people were talking about the em-dashes that OpenAI updated it to be context sensitive in em-dash formatting.
Anyway, IMO, if you want to not get AI written work, require your students to use a composition method that generates a version history (like Google Docs if they work on a computer, or handwritten drafts if they don't) and turn in that history, too. Maybe Word has version history too? It definitely has autosave.
I don't even disagree with what was written, but the telltale sign osthe overuse of the "—" to break up sentences. That and the style of roasting it does; it reads like things I asked it to write before when roasting other Euro countries for fun.
AI scanners literally do not work, it's snake oil.
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u/rjd2point0 14d ago
This is the greatest thing I've ever read.