The fact Harris’ campaign muzzled Walz when he could have been saying shit like this the whole time was a big fucking mistake. Christ, why wasn’t HE the god damn nominee?!
They shouldn’t have gone with Biden in 2020, I completely agree. Not remotely my first choice, but whatever. I voted for him because him vs Trump is a nobrainer.
Then they just ran him again! Are you kidding? Fine. Still a nobrainer.
Oh, but then they switched to someone else and all the fuckers who voted for him TWICE are like, “Whaaat?!?! This is a bridge too far!”
If you voted for Biden in the primary, and got Kamala, and you’re whining about it now, seriously? You’re getting what you deserve, because it was still a nobrainer.
I guess I should do more research, but I don't understand how pointing out that there were no primaries gets downvoted so heavily.
Is it because suggesting that if there were primaries and the people voted for the democrats candidate that said candidate would have won? Genuinely asking
Is there a source for this whole "no primary" claim?
There were definitely Democratic primaries in Missouri.
Is it because suggesting that if there were primaries and the people voted for the democrats candidate that said candidate would have won?
Republicans were all geared up to go against Biden. They had 6 years to prep and had their whole campaign ready. An incumbent president basically always wins their primary, no it was a safe bet.
Biden dropping out ruined all their plans. So they threw a tantrum and said Biden should be forced to run. Which is a stupid fucking argument; especially when you consider that they said he should step down.
To be clear, there 100% was a primary in every state. The idea that there wasn't is misinformation. It is completely possible (however improbable) that Biden would have lost the 2024 primary.
The only thing that is (tenuously) questionable is whether or not the front-runner is allowed to step out of a primary.
It's the front-runner specifically because losing candidates dropping out of the the race and signing their votes to someone else has been the norm for my entire lifetime and no one questioned until 2024.
Yes, but the primaries were not serious primaries. Biden ran against people like dean phillips and Biden didn't show up to the debates. There was almost no media coverage.
What people mean when they say there were no primaries was that it was no competitive primary, they just ticked the boxes to fulfil the procedure. If the dnc wanted to run a competitive primary, they could have invited the serious contenders to run but then chose not to.
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If Biden decides to run for re-election and there is a primary challenge, DNC executive director SAM CORNALE told us: “We’re with Biden. Period.”
edit2: Dornith. You didn't contest anything I said, this is essentially admitting your previousl comments were full of shit. Im not being hypocritical and I have none of the positions you assumed so you are attacking a stawman. And was this comment really block worthy?
And why were all the Republicans demanding that Biden be the nominee if supposedly the primary didn't count?
Your take is hypocritical and doesn't even follow it's own internal logic.
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Tell me, when exactly did it become "illegitimate" for a candidate to drop out of a primary? Because until last July, not only was it "legitimate", it happened in basically every primary.
Not only that, but Republicans were calling on Biden to drop out of the race. Y'all are just bitter Democrats called your bluff.
Did you mean the primary in 2024 where Biden took the vast majority of votes? And Kamala wasn’t even on the primary ballot? You call that a legitimate primary win for Kamala?
Because it's 99/100 times just a conservative trying to rile people up. Would it have been good to have a full primary without Biden when there was still time to? Yeah, but they decided to go with the incumbent which is a reasonable choice. Biden started having health issues at exactly the wrong time, so he dropped out and they didn't have time to do a primary so went with the next person in line, Harris. Conservatives say "there wasn't a primary" as though Harris was unqualified for office, but she was already second in line to the presidency. When we voted for Biden, we also voted for her.
Nominating a Presidential candidate has changed a number of different ways since 1796. The most current method started in 1972 and really isnt as old of a process as most people might think.
Edit: Either way, the process is not in the Constitution and for a reason. The founding fathers wanted parties to have the freedom to determine their own candidates.
Look, we don't respect actual democratic practices around here. The Party will tell you who is going to be president, and it's your responsibility to vote for them, no matter what.
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u/TechnologyRemote7331 1d ago
The fact Harris’ campaign muzzled Walz when he could have been saying shit like this the whole time was a big fucking mistake. Christ, why wasn’t HE the god damn nominee?!