r/MurderedByWords Apr 02 '20

Wholesome Murder Salam brother

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u/AlreadyPorchNaked Apr 02 '20

Muslims believe everyone is born Muslim, non-believers just need to revert back to Islam.

I always find it ridiculous to see these women living in the West defending a religion that would strip them of their rights. It's like being an openly gay devout Muslims - why would you defend a religion that sees you as inferior and wants you dead? Islam is itself dangerous and bigoted. Let's see her take off that hijab in Iran or Saudi Arabia and see what happens, that's what her religion wants for her.

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u/sulaymanf Apr 02 '20

That’s not what the religion wants and you’re pushing false stereotypes. Islam doesn’t strip women of rights (although some cultures do, that’s not what islam actually says). Nearly all Muslim democracies elected women as presidents and prime ministers.

You have a seriously broken understanding of what islam actually is if you can’t understand why women would join it. It actually empowers them further, perhaps ask /r/converts or /r/islam rather than spout off more ignorance.

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u/herpderpflerpgerp Apr 02 '20

Those Muslim democracies do that in spite of Islam.

The religion at its most fundamental is very clear about women being under the keeping of men, and that their appointed lot is unlike that of the one for men.

"Equal, but different.".

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u/sulaymanf Apr 02 '20

Once again, you’re wrong. Go actually TALK to Muslim religious leaders and scholars, they actively campaign for women. They unanimously endorsed Hillary for president, and campaign for female muslim leaders in muslim-majority countries.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re online, go talk to some Muslims if you don’t believe me. This is an old myth

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u/herpderpflerpgerp Apr 02 '20

I work with Muslims. I live alongside Muslims. I was raised with Muslims.

Islam - and the cultures it inspires - is terribly sexist.

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u/sulaymanf Apr 02 '20

I’m sorry you were raised by people with such a poor understanding of their own religion. Everyone tries mixing their culture with religion and pretending their cultural rubbish is part of the religion when it’s not. That’s why you don’t judge a religion by its people, you judge it by its actual texts (which are free from that cultural and nationalistic stupidity).

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u/herpderpflerpgerp Apr 02 '20 edited Apr 02 '20

Yeah, I've read the Quran a few times, and some of the Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

It's by judging the religion by its texts that I've come to have such a bad view of Islam. Its worldview, Muhammad, and the various justifications for any number of truly abhorrent things were all rather serious turn-offs.

Before I bothered to read for myself, I was closer to the type who would use positive experiences with Muslims to reason that Islam would also be similarly positive.