r/NoStupidQuestions • u/MortgageOld2441 • 4d ago

Why didn't the Paul brothers ever get as much hate as Justin Bieber in the early 2010's?

It’s some weird cultural double standard, honestly. Bieber was a kid doing kid things and people treated him like he was the Antichrist of pop music. The Paul brothers? Full-grown men pulling off WWE-level stunts in real life with actual consequences and somehow they’re just “controversial content creators.”

I mean, sure, people do hate the Pauls — don't get me wrong — but it’s not that universal, red-hot, foaming-at-the-mouth loathing Bieber got. He was the punchline. You couldn’t say “Justin Bieber” in a middle school hallway without someone screaming “HE SOUNDS LIKE A GIRL” like it was a national emergency.

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u/ShounenSuki 4d ago

The Paul brothers never received even close to the amount of fame and popularity that Justin Bieber did.

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u/TheAffectiveTurn 4d ago

Not only are they not as popular, but they are also less intrusive. You take a taxi to the mall you hear Bieber on the radio, shopping at the mall Bieber is playing over the PA, on the bus going home Bieber is playing again, you sit and watch TV and suddenly Bieber shows up, as you have a mental breakdown because Justin Bieber is following you everywhere Bieber is playing in the ambulance, at the emergency room and in the surgery theater after you try to chew your own ears off. Comparatively the Paul brothers started out in a period where content on the demand is a lot more popular. Music, video, etc, most of it is streamed. While they are much more obnoxious than Justin Bieber (who's crime is really making music that isn't for me, which is unforgivable), they are less intrusive for people who don't want to deal with them.

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u/lifeinwentworth 4d ago

yep. EVERYONE knew the name Justin Bieber. Not everyone knew or knows who the Paul brothers are. In my experience, if I say anything about Logan Paul (which is very rare, I'm no fan) I would say "you know that stupid over priced Prime drink? he had something to do that" to give people context because they wouldn't hae a clue who I was talking about lol. Bieber was rude to fans and it would make the news lol. Ridiculous. Logan did the whole filming a dead body in Japan and you only really knew if you were a youtube person. HUGE difference. That was my introduction to him. Not comparable even now in how well those people are known. All I know about the other one is he participates in WWE doesn't he? Idk what else he does.

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u/onomastics88 3d ago

I don’t even know who they are. I’m not a Justin bieber kind of person but I know who he is.

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u/recjus85 4d ago

The Paul brothers get a lot of hate.

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u/Huge-Income3313 4d ago

Exactly

What makes Logan truly evil is:

1) Japanese police said the dead body was fake & the incident was a staged prank

2) YouTube knew it was fake, manually put the video on trending & punished people who criticized Logan

3) Logan hired Kim Kardashian's Fame strategist Sheeraz Hasan who is known for faking controversies to make people famous from hate, the Japan incident was a staged Hollywood publicity stunt designed to make Logan super famous.

4) Sheeraz owns LA paparazzi which is why Logan was posing for paparazzi, appearing on the news & doing preplanned paparazzi interviews during the incident. They were aggressively pushing his name & controversy to the entire world

5) Anybody who exposed the Japan incident as fake had their channels striked & videos removed for up to 5 years after the incident, including tiny channels with small followings

6) At the time of Logan's Japan incident, YouTube released their own YouTube Originals show called "Do You Want To See a Dead Body?".. You can Google this right now, I'm not making this up.

Source: https://youtu.be/EQfEbFgzX90?si=ukjsnmhPNwmqH-xx

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u/Aufklarung_Lee 4d ago

I dunno man it sounds like this YouTube isnt a good faith actor. 

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u/nonlinear_nyc 4d ago

Hm. Aside the fact that Justin Bieber was way more famous than Paul brothers, there’s also the fact that he was adored by girls and not boys.

Our society has major cooties, things adored by men are respected, elevated as important, critical even. Things adored by women are scrutinized, ridiculed, pathologized.

Like, regarding shitty movies, Twilight is as shitty as I dunno, Transformers. But to this day people go out of their way to frame twilight as an abomination that shouldn’t exist. How many shitty franchises “shouldn’t exist”, really?

That’s it. Cooties.

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u/Justin_123456 4d ago

I love the rebrand on misogyny/patriarchy as cooties.

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u/nonlinear_nyc 3d ago

Hahaha!

It’s cooties! Our society has a severe case of cooties!!!

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u/flayjoy 4d ago

I cannot remember where I saw this quote but it sums it up perfectly.

“The Beatles were nonsense for teenage girls until men said it was okay to like them.”

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u/nyliaj 4d ago

Justin Bieber was (and still is) bullied for being/sounding feminine and because his fans were almost all teen girls. The Paul brothers embody traditional masculinity and have an audience of mostly boys and men. They get hate, but it’s a different kind.

I also think the popularity levels are important. Most people don’t know who the Paul brothers are. When Jake fought Tyson so many older family members were asking me who he was. Bieber was on every radio station for at least a decade straight.

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u/TrivialBanal 4d ago

I can answer your question with one word.

Who?

Bieber was actually famous. If you complained about him, you got attention because people knew who you were talking about and they probably had an opinion on him already.

With the other two clowns, you'd spend most of your time explaining who they were.

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u/Aufklarung_Lee 4d ago

I didnt realize who OP was reffering to untill I read the comments. Thought it was some obscure boyband from the 00's

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u/ThrowRARAw 4d ago

The Paul Brothers never had Beetlemania to the point it got its own rebrand - Bieber Fever. 

The more fans you have the more attention you’ll likely have. Same for other 21st century acts who’ve received global Beetlemania level attention (One Direction and Taylor Swift come to mind).

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u/Affectionate-War7655 4d ago

Because they never got as much fame as Justin Bieber. And because most guys probably didn't have to be jealous of their girl swooning over the Paul Brothers.

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u/ThreeTreesForTheePls 4d ago

Logan Paul’s fame came from boys/young men.

Justin Biebers fame was 98% girls/women.

Men who target a female demographic are consistently hated on by men. Men who entertain other men are loved and lauded. The whole “if you’re not with us you’re against us” energy.

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u/fostermonster555 4d ago

I’m no Bieber fan, but I could probably name 10 songs off the top of my head, and sing them word for word.

The Paul brothers?? Besides school kids do people know who they are?

I vaguely know they have something to do with prime drinks, and boxing. That’s it. Can’t even give details

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u/julysummerss 4d ago

Bieber was a younger pop star, an easier target for widespread early hate than the older, more controversial Paul brothers in a later, different online climate.

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u/EmergencyAltruistic1 4d ago

I don't know who the Paul brothers are but I'm going to go out on a limb & say misogyny.

Justin Beiber was a very talented child that rose to fame because girls liked him. Anything that appeals specifically to females is bullied by society.

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u/Switch64 4d ago

Lol.... 🤦‍♂️

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u/VeggiePiece 4d ago

I remember constantly seeing YouTube videos about how they were the worst thing ever. I’d say they we’re pretty hated

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u/the-truffula-tree 4d ago

The internet is a wildly different place than it was 10-15 years ago. 

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u/MoistCloyster_ 4d ago

Clearly not a WWE fan. Logan gets hailed with boos whenever he shows up.

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u/meepgorp 4d ago

They're not real life famous, they're internet famous. Plus social media then was less ubiquitous.

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u/OolongGeer 4d ago

Who?

I haven't heard of the Paul Brothers. Are they country music or something?

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u/jquest303 3d ago

Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight recently. You remember hearing about that?

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u/mothwhimsy 4d ago

Bieber was primarily liked by teenage girls and was a lot more famous than the Paul brothers are. The Paul brothers are primarily liked by teenage boys. It's cool to hate on things girls like and less so things boys like

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u/knallpilzv2 4d ago

"He sounds like a girl" is indicative of him being the Antichrist? I mean, people yelling that isn't really indicative of him being hated, rather than him being popular and people knowing what he sounds like. I mean, yeah, if you make music like that, people are gonna make fun of you in the easiest way possible.

The reason Bieber was controversial though wasn't his music, but his behavior. Him going around wreaking havoc, scaring little kids and genereally being the biggest asshole imaginable. If that's "doing kid things" for you....good to know. It's that you telling us you were a prick, too? :D

With the Paul brothers, at least their shit was uploaded right to the internet. Justin Bieber didn't upload vlogs onto youtube of him being a dick. People had to come forward and tell their stories.

And Justin Bieber was way more famous. He migrated from social media to mainstream media when he was like 13 or something. Did the Paul brothers ever?
The bigger you are the more you need to be on your best behavior, or you're gonna be seen as bad.

And, honestly, even at that time already I think people were way less surprised at famous youtubers being braindead sociopaths than they were at teenage pop singers. Yeah, you'd maybe suspect they were divas. But not actively going out of their way to fuck with people's shit for fun.

If Bieber had acted as retarded as the Paul brothers did in their videos, maybe the contrast wouldn't have been so great. He was being a soy boy for girls to fawn over. That was his image.
The Paul brothers were openly being dumb assholes. I don't think they would have been able to hide it.
If Justin Bieber had been farting, drinking and cursing in interviews, or putting out wannabe gangster rap about destroying grocery stores and blowing out childrens' eardrums with air horns, maybe it would have been different, who knows.

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u/Nuryadiy 4d ago

They were a thing in 2010?

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u/hellogooday92 4d ago

Plain and simple they are not as popular. So they got reported on less. They weren’t watched as closely.

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u/davisriordan 4d ago

Girls liked Justin, boys liked Pauls, that's why

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u/KeyLog256 4d ago

Because most of the Bieber hate was because he was good looking, rich, most girls liked him. Essentially jealousy. 

Not the same for the Paul brothers.

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u/Critical-Tourist-468 3d ago

First, they are NOWHERE near as popular as Justin Bieber. He is an actual celebrity, where they just post stupid content on YouTube and TikTok. Second, they definitely get a lot of hate still, though. I've always preferred Justin over either of those two myself, though.

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u/false_athenian 3d ago

As a western european, i have no idea who the Paul Brothers are. But everyone knows Justin Bieber.

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u/Self-Comprehensive 2d ago edited 2d ago

All I ever knew about Jake Paul was that he made an energy drink and "fought" Mike Tyson. Somehow I knew everyone Justin Bieber ever dated, every time he acted up, and was forced to hear every song he released. I did not seek any of that knowledge out, it was forced upon me. I can avoid knowing about Jake Paul without even trying. It was impossible to do that with Justin Bieber. Even now, though I have never typed Beiber into my phone before this very moment, when I type Justin, it auto fills it for me. Also, Jake Paul has a brother?