r/PetMice Sep 22 '24

Food and Diet Safe foods for Mice! (Mus Musculus)

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Hey all! I spent a good amount of hours making this, I have other drafts and copies of it but this is my more polished appealing one ❤ Hope it helps you all!

Please be aware of the amount you're offering - moderation is key. Allergies and Sensitivities do exist always be cautious introducing new foods!


r/PetMice Sep 22 '24

Care Guide Series Community Care Guide

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This post is mouse care simplified, for beginners! It is not very specific, and it does not cover everything, so please do not rely on just this post when educating yourself on mouse care!

This has been written and discussed by moderators of the subreddit. If you have questions or concerns, please comment to let us know! It will be updated regularly to ensure it is factual.

1. Mice are social!

• Females always need other female companions. It is recommended to have at least 3, but 2 is okay.

• After 6 mice in one cage, it is often they will start to split up and become territorial against the opposing group. It is suggested to keep your colony under 6 unless you have much knowledge and experience.

• Males can not be housed with other males ever! If you want them to have cage mates, neutering (very risky) and placing with females or leaving intact and bonding with ASFs (African Soft Furs) is beneficial and recommended. Otherwise, they can thrive in solitude.

2. Cages

In mouse communities, many users go by tank size rather than listing dimensions. We will do both!

• 10g/20x10 inches is the minimum for 2-3 female mice, though we STRONGLY suggest at least a 20g.

• 20g/30x12 inches is suitable for 2-3 females or 1 male.

• 30g/36x12 inches is suitable for 2-4 females or 1 male

• 40g/36x18 inches is occasionally suitable for 3-6 females or 1 male

• Over 40g is not always suitable for any amount of mice since many mice do better in environments with less open space. Bigger is not always better for mice.

Any amount of mice may thrive in larger enclosures than suggested above. However, it is critical that the larger the enclosure is, the more clutter provided, otherwise the mice will never thrive.

• Wood enclosures are suggested against since urine will effect its quality and smell over time.

• Mesh flooring is dangerous due to the chance of toes/tails getting caught, the mesh cutting their skin, and risking bumplefoot. Mesh should also be avoided in wheels.

• Though they climb, mice don't need very much height, and multi-story enclosures do not provide them with the proper space they need. Floor space is more important than height.

• Cages with lots of attachments and rooms do not provide proper space for mice. They are also extremely difficult to clean, fall apart easily, and struggle to hold proper bedding amount and safe wheels.

3. Substrate

• Mice need to be able to create burrows, so we suggest at least 6" of bedding. However, many owners prefer having 10-12" deep!

• Bedding must be majority safe wood shavings or hemp. Paper substrate does not absorb ammonia well and can cause several health issues when used alone or as majority of substrate.

• (Dust/scent free for all) Aspen, kiln dried pine, and hemp do well as the main substrate and may be more sturdy mixed with a small portion of hay or paper bedding.

4. Clutter

• Clutter is arguably one of the most important aspects of a mouses cage. No matter the size, if the cage lacks clutter, it is not suitable.

• Toilet paper rolls, cardboard boxes, tea light and soap dish ceramics, rodent hideouts, branches, logs, cork bark, cardboard egg cartons, and much more can be used as clutter in the cage.

• From a birds eye view, you should be able to see little to no bedding. While it may seem too cluttered to a human, it's perfect for mice!

• The larger an enclosure, the more crucial clutter is.

5. Enrichment

• Also known as entertainment, to keep the mice busy!

• Boredom breakers, foraging toys, dig boxes, sprays(plant), scatter-feeding, and human interaction are all forms of enrichment.

• Mice should have boredom breakers in their enclosure at all times to keep them from growing bored.

• Lone males need extra simulation and enrichment.

6. Climbing Opportunities

• A form of enrichment that is required!

• Mice flourish with climbing opportunities and will always take advantage of them.

• Ropes, bird ladders, hanging toys, rope nets, shower curtain rings, and bird perches are a few climbing options you can provide.

• Fabric hammocks are used commonly, but pose a threat when chewed on and loose strings get tangled around limbs. Minimal use of fabric is suggested for this reason.

7. Exercise

• A form of enrichment that is required!

• An upright, solid wheel of 9 inches in diameter or larger must be provided at all times. 2 or more are suggested for groups of girls.

• Spinning saucer disks or hamster balls/cars are UNSAFE and should never be provided, no matter how much you think your mouse may enjoy it (fun≠safe)

• Proper wheel brands may include Niteangel, Silent Spinner Exotic Nutrition, Oxbow, Wodent, Bucstate, and Trixie (but there are many more besides these!)

8. Diet

• Main diet must be pellets/lab blocks.

• A high variety food mix (nuts, seeds, grains, ect) must be given 1-3 times a week, or even as long as once every two weeks. The frequency is owner preference.

• Feeding is 3-5 grams per mouse a day.

• Ensure your mice have constant access to food through toys and scatter-feeding.

• Bowls are suggested only for fresh fruits or veggies since they provide no enrichment!

9. Cleaning

• Daily spot checks to clean up mess, poo on toys/clutter, and urine on the surface is vital.

• Bedding changes will be needed less often with more bedding and space. A 10g tank (or cage of similar size) would need weekly bedding changes.

• Each enclosure size and mouse amount will effect how often bedding changes are necessary. Find a cleaning schedule that ensures the cage doesn't smell at any time for your mouses health.

• With deep bedding over 6 inches, you'll have to change out less of the bedding. 1/3 to 1/2 of the bedding may stay in the enclosure while the most soiled areas are removed and replaced.

• In any case, a small amount of bedding must be left over after a bedding change to decrease stress.

10. Taming

• Allowing your mice to settle in for a few days before interacting with them is wise.

• Rub your hands on bedding and toilet paper in the cage to get the mice used to your scent.

• Encourage interaction through hand feeding.

• If a mouse is not motivated to interact after several weeks, try to lure them to climb onto your hand for treats. A strong bond is important with mice so they are well adjusted to interaction in case of a vet visit or emergencies. Human interaction is also beneficial to them.

11. Other

• Mice are crepuscular and are typically seen during the morning or late day/night.

• They are self bathing and should never be washed with water or soap (unless vet prescribed). It ruins the health of their fur coat and leaves them more susceptible to URIs and freezing. They do not need any form of bathing/washing.

• Mice don't hibernate. If a mouse appears to be in a hibernation state, this is Torpor, caused when they overheat or freeze.

• You should never pick up a mouse by its tail or other limbs.

• Fancy mice (aka domestic mouse) live 1-2 years on average.

• Wild mice do poor in captivity, unless they are unfit for the wild they should not be kept as pets.

• You should never breed mice purposely without years of research and mouse owning experience prior.

12. Links & Other Posts

• Mouse Cages (Amazon)

• Mouse Products (Amazon)

• Clutter & Climbing Opportunities

• Exercise & Enrichment

• Bedding & Substrates

• Catching an Escaped Mouse

• Owning on a Budget

• Sources & Additional Articles

More community resources coming soon


r/PetMice 51m ago

Question/Help bf purchased this as a "baby rat" but i think it looks more like a mouse, is it?

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r/PetMice 5h ago

Cute Mouse Media Remy's snacktime

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76 Upvotes

Nothing else matters to Remy when it's snacktime!


r/PetMice 9h ago

Wild Mouse/Mice Trying to care for little ones in my garden

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Hello, i recently found out atleast 2 baby/small mice living in my yard and tried feeding them. Im in a financial tough spot and cant really afford to buy fancy food, so i have been feeding them leftover bread (just regular bread, work at a bakery) walnuts(i think? They belong to my dad lol) and have tried some fruits, apple, strawberry and dried prunes but they didnt really eat those. Theyve eaten some bread but seemed to love the nuts and oats i fed them the most. I think one of the mice died (it was more daring and didnt scare as easy) bc there was a cat also visiting my yard (im also feeding it, bought cheap food for it and a few treats). Im trying to just help the natural environment in my yard thrive a little bc it makes me happy in a world that seems (now more then ever in my life) really shit. Does anyone have any like household things i can feed them or give them to help their natural behaviors (like maybe textile or stuff i could give them for nesting, food i can give them and how i can enrich their natural instincts instead of just teaching them to be bowl fed) bc those things also impede their natural defense instincts and i dont want them to be fully reliable on me.

Pics below :p - 19 yr old guy thats looking for a new job so i can properly feed them🥲 Ps they were so small in the beginning like im talking a cig butt size.


r/PetMice 1h ago

Cute Mouse Media Little Man

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Just joined, so I thought I'd share one of my little ones! This fella is currently the planned dad to my starting breeding group, he's such a sweet little guy and I adore this coloration.


r/PetMice 2h ago

Wild Mouse/Mice INJURED MOUSE

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Found this mouse sitting 2 feet away with injuries on its back side. Found one dead with identical injuries 2 months ago, any clue what's happening?


r/PetMice 8h ago

Rainbow Bridge My baby

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Ive had a lot of different mice, but Jerry was one the two first i ever had. His brother passed away sometime before christmas, but Jerry was with me for around eight months and he passed away just this morning.


r/PetMice 14h ago

Question/Help Advice for breeding my first mouse litter? I'm so excited, and I just want to do everything right

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Here's a picture of mama-to-be (her name is Stewart), I don't have the father yet. She'll be 4 months old when I introduce them and let them do their thang


r/PetMice 19h ago

Wild Mouse/Mice The wild mouse I rescued lived and got rereleased:)

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Before/after pictures. He was out in the sun not really moving for hours. I was told about him late in the day and there were flies bothering him. We gave him water and nuts, he responded very well - however I was pretty sure he was injured or something because he kept falling over.

Anyway I put him in a safe box with water, veggies, berries, nuts and a place to sleep. He made it overnight and was moving about so much faster in the morning! I let him out and he seemed very happy scurrying around the yard again. Usually when I save a mouse or a bird it dies. Not this time :)


r/PetMice 1h ago

Question/Help How to calm Nerves?

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Okay so first of all, while this involves mice, I wont lie I think it’s more of an owner problem LOL.

So I got a male mouse about 2 months ago, and I’ve never been happier, hes the cutest shit ive ever met and I’ve been doing my best to keep him happy. He’s extremely tame, however he seems to not enjoy my attention very much.

Because of that, when I discovered some young female ASF’s at a expo, I ofc picked some up for him. I had previously done research on them, and did much more before I ever dared to introduce them all together. Theyre actually doing great and I’m already deeply attached to them.

The problem is though, as im doing introductions I can’t- calm myself down. I think im more stressed about this than the mice themselves. The ASF’s are doing great, very submissive and don’t seem to seek out or bother the Male at all. And the male isn’t…too bad, he gets into slapfights with one of them and im unsure if these are real fights, sorting things out, or him trying to mount her. They always end within a couple seconds before I can intervene. (No blood is drawn from what I can see, ASF are notoriously skittish so its a bit hard for me to check, but she is fully white so I think it’d be semi-obvious)

Every time I leave the room for a couple minutes, or am not looking at them it feels like im consumed with the horrors of what if they get into a fight? Or what if one of the females is pregnant and now I have to deal with 20+ babies? I experienced some of this anxiety when I first got my male, but I suppose it was lessoned because the fear of fighting wasn’t there?

I expected alot of this, and am ofc keeping close eyes on them as they get to know eachother but I wanted to know if anyone else experienced extreme anxiety around their mice? And if they had any advice on how to calm said anxiety?

Sorry for the ramble, you can tell I don’t do this alot.


r/PetMice 6h ago

Cute Mouse Media Marley is warming up very nicely

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im so happy that he’s finally comfortable to stay still enough for a picture 🥳 lots of work to do still but i love him


r/PetMice 1d ago

Cute Mouse Media Update on rescued mice

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Thank you for all the positive responses to my post a month ago about the two mice I rescued. Here is a little update: Last week I started to introduce Chi and Tai to my other males and females. In the first pic they all met for the first time and started cuddling really quick. I‘m glad that they all do really good together and I hope that it will stay like this once I finished the introduction. I‘m really happy that Chi and Tai can now live a happy life with Snow, Flake, Lana, Gaia, Panda and Knöpfli 🖤 (maybe I‘ll give another update once the introduction is complete)


r/PetMice 8h ago

Other Mice at zoo

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Hi, Today I went to a small zoo with my family, and they had a terrarium with fancy mice. At first, it didn’t seem too bad, there was a decent amount of space and plenty of toys. But after just a few seconds of watching, I realized something was very wrong.

At least half of the mice had open wounds all over their bodies. Some were violently scratching at their eyes, and one tiny mouse was lying motionless in the middle of the enclosure, barely breathing. It was heartbreaking.

As if that wasn’t awful enough, I noticed several mice that were clearly pregnant, and right there in the open, one mouse was eating a newborn baby while the others watched. The enclosure was overcrowded as there were easily 20 to 30 mice crammed into that space.

The whole scene was horrifying. I felt sick and so incredibly sorry for them. No animal deserves to live like that. I wish there was something I could do to help:((


r/PetMice 18h ago

Question/Help advice for itchy mouse

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my baby lottie has been dealing with a skin irritation for a few weeks now and has seen the vet 3x and has a 4th appointment. she’s gotten 3 rounds of revolution (the vet had said was a medicine to help cover a wide range of conditions) and taking diluted lime sulfur dip baths ever 4-5 days. she’s still itching all time to the point she squeaks and i feel so bad for her i want to take her pain away. i was just wondering if anyone has any tips to help her with the itching? or anything i can do to prevent her from constantly scratching? any help or advice is very appreciated by me and my little girl


r/PetMice 23h ago

Wild Mouse/Mice Mouse w/ babies

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Found this mouse with her babies in a drawer in a desk inside our home. Was wondering if anyone knew if she is a deer mouse or a field mouse. The babies are pinkies so as of now I’m not quite sure what to do with her other than leave her alone.

We have an aquarium we could put her in, but I don’t know if that’s the right choice.

I’ve had rats before, but never mice. I am not interested in exterminating her, just looking for some guidance.


r/PetMice 5h ago

Question/Help Is this normal mice behavior or is she sick?

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Idk exactly how old she is because I took her from a friend but she’s at least 1.5 yrs.


r/PetMice 20h ago

Cute Mouse Media Scruffy explores the kitchen counter

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r/PetMice 5h ago

First Time Owner Why are they doing this?

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As the flair says, I'm a first time owner. I've had my mice (2 females) for three days, and I noticed them stuffing bedding in the water bottle holder gap lol. It's kinda silly but I just wanna make sure it's not a stress response or something. They've also somewhat buried everything in their cage including the water bottle spout (I've had to clear it off a few times to make sure they can get to it) but the bottle holder has a little hideaway so I assume it has something to do with that as they buried the other hideaway I put in the tank. Is this just a silly little mouse behavior or should I be concerned?


r/PetMice 20m ago

Question/Help 2 questions !!

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most importantly, my mice are super playful and energetic. but as soon as my lights are on they hide immediately. how do i help them not be so scared. they are from a pet shop as they weren’t and aren’t any breeders in my area. any suggestions will help so much!!!!

2 is anybody else’s posts getting rejected from the fancy mice facebook group ?! . also sorry for posting alot


r/PetMice 22h ago

Wild Mouse/Mice Found this little guy today.

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To preface this story, this little one is already at a wildlife refuge.

I came home today and this little guy was just sitting on my porch. He didn't look right and I immediately rushed to get a box together and set up a heating pad under the box. I used work gloves and scooped little one up and knew it was bad because he was easily scooped right up and barely moved in my hands. I knew there was strength and will though, because little one held themselves up the entire time.

After a little while on the heating pad area they were responding to light a bit when I would lift the cover. I was able to get ahold of a refuge and got them there with little one still hanging in there. I don't know why I'm sharing this except that this is the only community I can think of who will understand when I say I drove an hour out of my way to save this little ones life and I hope if they don't pull through, then at least the last bit of their life was warm and safe.


r/PetMice 13h ago

Cute Mouse Media Omg mama can’t catch a break

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r/PetMice 5h ago

Question/Help Problem with barbering

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Two out of my three mice died recently, and I noticed that they didn’t have any whiskers anymore. I thought that was strange, because they had them a few weeks before. The lone remaining mouse still had her whiskers. Anyway, I got her two new companions, did introductions, they seemed to be getting along fine. They would all sleep together in a pile. The two new girls like running up and down my arm, and yesterday I noticed both of them now are missing most of their whiskers. Right now I have separated them, the two girls are in the big cage, and the one is in the travel cage. Any ideas on what I can do so they can get along, and stop the barbering?


r/PetMice 1d ago

Other death of my oldest mouse Nala

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a few days ago, my oldest mouse Nala (only 10 month old female) was killed by my cat Leo. i am absolutely devastated by this loss. she was my first mouse (i have 2 other females) and i bonded with her very deeply. more deeply than i could have ever anticipated. i love all 3 of them but Nala and me had a special bond. finding her body (although im glad there was no blood and she wasn’t mangled) was one of the most horrendous moments of my life. i buried her with a soft, lavender scented cloth along with her favorite carrot toy & the rice krispy flakes she loved so much as a snack. i miss her everyday and tomorrow i’ll be making a small, hand-painted headstone for her grave in my backyard. i dug a deep hole to make sure her grave wasn’t disturbed by other animals. i love her and tell her goodnight every night. RIP Nala. i hope there’s a mouse heaven bc you belong there ❤️ mommy will miss you and think about you everyday forever

story of how it happened: i had put her on my bed while drawing and at some point, left the room to tend to my toddler daughter. usually when i leave the room, i close the door. this time, i had forgotten. leo, unbeknownst to me, was underneath my bed and smelled Nala (i’m assuming). and since there was no blood on her when i found her, im guessing he thought she was a toy (he’s an inside cat strictly. never been outside the home) so she wasn’t food to him. and while playing with her, probably crushed her lungs with his mouth. i did not get mad at Leo for this. it was my fault for being an irresponsible mouse owner and forgetting to close the door or put her back in her tank with her sisters. her sisters are both okay and i will no longer be putting them on my bed for explore time for their safety. i don’t want this ever happening again bc it would truly break me. i am extremely invested in my mice. condolences or any kind sentiments are greatly appreciated 💗🐭


r/PetMice 19h ago

First Time Owner my mouse of 2 weeks died

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I really do hope what I was doing wasn't the cause of her dying. she had food water I bought her toys and bedding and she was moving around and having a blast for a week idk what happened I really don't, I got her from petco so yeh... Idk if this was my fault I feel so bad she was so happy with me tho.

my mom said it's better I had her cause she spent her last days happy and running around instead of in a crammed cage with 15 other mice but idk I'm so devastated


r/PetMice 1d ago

Cute Mouse Media My new babies Tulip and Poppy! And their adopted big sister Daisy.

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r/PetMice 17h ago

Cute Mouse Media dill pickle

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i was finally ready to get another buddy after losing my heart mouse - this is my handsome little dill :)