r/Professors • u/Mental_Extension_443 • 2d ago

International students are being deported from all universities

I belong to a fairly unknown regional public university in the US, and we just found out yesterday the handful of our international students have been targeted by ICE and are being told to leave the country immediately. It looks like they used police records to identify these students. And they weren’t serious police records, or not even anything the student was found guilty of, just their name on a report. The suspicion is that really bad AI is being used to just find anybody that ICE can find an excuse to deport.

Edit to add: I’m sending this from an anonymous account that I don’t usually use which is why my karma is so low.

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u/MiniZara2 1d ago

This is happening at Ohio State and University of Cincinnati (I live in Ohio). Where else?

Universities aren’t being notified or given reasons either.

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u/vegasnative 1d ago

UNLV had 4 visas revoked in the past week. It’s hitting our local news outlets.

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u/epidemiologist Associate Prof, Public Health, R1, USA 1d ago

I can't imagine the terror in the hearts of my international doc students. Some ended their first semester with the shooting, now this.

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not to minimize the wrongness of the actions in general or the effect on those 4, but a few commenters have implied or even flat out stated that it's "all our international students." This real number - 4 - is a good test of the "all our international students" UNLV has over 900. Their international student office has 5 full time staff, not including student workers.

My concern here is not the satisfaction of political activists. It is the same as when I told my students after the first of the arrests began of non-students in January that if ICE came to classroom, I would not release names or let them in the classroom without a warrant - to help ease their stress and let them concentrate on their education. Hyping the danger does the students a disservice however much it might help us feel good about being better than the slimeball in the Oval Office.

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u/gilded_angelfish 1d ago

But even one is one too many in any school, full stop. I appreciate your perspective but imho, it's not helpful right now..

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

I agree that even one improper action by ICE is too much, in schools or outside them, for students or agricultural workers, one anywhere in the country is abusive. The perspective is not meant for political activists. It is meant for worried international students who are wrongly getting the idea that "all our international students" are having this happen and living in unnecessary (at this point) fear. Barack Obama made a statement about terrorism being less likely to kill Americans than a slip in the bathtub and Republicans went nuts saying he was excusing terrorism. He was not excusing terrorism and I am not excusing a wretched immigration policy. Right now is exactly when easing fear is useful, not 10 years from now. Be better than extremist Republicans.

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u/djromano88 7h ago

You keep saying you're not excusing wretched policy, then immediately shift focus to minimizing fear rather than addressing the actual harm. The students' fear isn't irrational; it's grounded in lived experience, recent targeting, and the chilling effect of hostile enforcement. "Only a few" isn't comforting when you might be next.

And invoking Obama again doesn’t work here - he was addressing manufactured fear used to justify war, not real fear from actual raids, arrests, and threats. Trying to draw that parallel is a false equivalency that distracts from the present-day reality students are facing.

You say your message is “not for political activists,” but the moment you enter a public thread and start scolding others for “hyping” danger, you’ve made it political. Telling people to "be better than Republicans" while borrowing their tactics of deflection and downplay is, frankly, not the flex you think it is.

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u/djromano88 1d ago

This clearly is minimizing the "wrongness" on display. If this show of xenophobia is acceptable to you because it's "only a few students," maybe you don't belong in education

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

Remember when Barack Obama was trying to ease fears over terrorism and said that people were more likely to die by slipping in the tub than in a terrorist attack, a true and useful statement, and Republicans went bat shit crazy?

You sound like the worst sort of Republican.

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u/djromano88 1d ago

I'm not sure where you get off calling me a Republican in the slightest. But I guess you don't teach logic and debate. Meanwhile, I'll keep teaching acting and drama until the Republicans you so admire cut all arts funding

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

You're the one who acts like them. I'm sorry you think it's illogical to draw any conclusion from your words that echo Republican words in a similar context, but if the shoe fits, wear it.

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u/djromano88 1d ago

I'm literally surprised anyone would hire you as a professor. Please tell me where you teach so I can tell high school actors I coach to not apply? Clearly the university has zero standards in their hiring practices.

You're the one excusing Republican authoritarianism in the United States by saying "at least it's only a few people."

One person being targeted illegally is too much for me. But I'm a bleeding heart liberal

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

You're completely misrepresenting what I wrote in the same way that Republicans misrepresented Obama's statement on the dangers of terrorism. Doubling down on stupid doesn't make it any less stupid. You're the one sounding like a far right lunatic.

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u/ashleyonce TT, CC 8h ago

I see the circular firing squad has assembled

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u/djromano88 7h ago

If four international students are being targeted or harmed, and your response is “well that’s statistically insignificant,” then yes, I think you’re failing your duty as an educator. I'm not “hyping” danger-I'm responding to it. We shouldn’t need mass harm to justify moral clarity. One student being unjustly targeted should matter. If that makes me sound “emotional,” good. I'm not here to intellectualize injustice into something abstract and ignorable. I’m here to advocate for the students who are most vulnerable.

And your Obama comparison? It’s a false equivalency. Obama was trying to de-escalate xenophobic panic after 9/11. You’re using that same rhetorical framework to downplay very real acts of xenophobia happening right now. That’s not nuanced-it’s dismissive. There's a difference between preventing fear-mongering and ignoring harm.

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u/caifaisai 8h ago

Did you read literally the first sentence of their comment? That commenter is clearly not excusing the deportations like you seem to think they are. The point being made is something different.

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u/djromano88 7h ago edited 6h ago

Saying “I’m not minimizing harm” and then pointing out it’s “only 4 students out of 900” is minimizing harm. That’s not nuance—it’s statistical deflection. For the students affected, that number doesn’t make the threat less real.

Quoting Obama doesn’t change that. It reads like a rhetorical shield: “See, I’m being reasonable.” But the actual pattern (acknowledge harm, then downplay the response) is straight from the Republican playbook. Ironically, it’s the same one others are getting accused of using here.

This isn’t emotion vs logic. It’s about accountability. And softening real fear to make others feel better isn’t protecting students - it’s deflecting responsibility.

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u/djromano88 7h ago

You talk a lot about protecting students from fear, but your own bio uses an ableist slur ("fucktard") that actively harms the exact kind of vulnerable community you're supposedly defending. I work with disabled students, including many on the autism spectrum, and I can tell you firsthand: language like that isn’t edgy or clever - it’s dehumanizing.

If you’re in higher education, especially around international or marginalized students, you should know better. This isn’t just about tone - it's about the values we model. You can't advocate for student well-being while casually using slurs that degrade disabled people.

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u/Timely-Historian-719 6h ago

Just an observation: the OP’s bio used to include the slur in question when ranting about “worthless doxxers and haters.” After having it pointed out to him on how ableist that is, it got quietly edited to “cretins.”

No comment, no acknowledgment.

Kind of tells you everything you need to know, honestly.

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u/ILoveEvMed 1d ago

University of Oregon had one visa revoked this week. ICE is on campus at University of Tennessee.

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u/bijou77 1d ago

Kent as well.

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u/jenlberry 1d ago

Came here to say this. I’m faculty at UC.

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u/copeknight72 1d ago

Minnesota State Mankato has been reported in Minneapolis news outlets. Around 5 I think.

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u/crmsnprd 1d ago edited 8h ago

I have a friend that works in international student services at a small campus in California. They had three students from the Middle East whose visas were cancelled. The online system is not notifying the student or the school if a visa is cancelled. She and her team are now checking the immigration system several times a day in order to see if/when there are others. It's awful.

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u/Wandering_Uphill 1d ago

NC State has had two international students' visas revoked.

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u/squarehead88 1d ago

It's not even just ICE. One of our PhD students who's weeks away from graduating just got his F1 visa revoked. They provided some generic reason. I get the feeling that this is happening a lot more than ICE raids, but we just don't hear about it

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u/Paulshackleford 1d ago

Just out of curiosity, will he get to graduate? I imagine that he has defended already?

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u/Prestigious_Light315 1d ago

It's a mixture of both. Students are getting their visas revoked but they're not being notified and then ICE is taking them if they don't find out some other way and then leave immediately. It's becoming clear that the ICE raids were just the warning bell that visas were being revoked without communication. At least 300 PhD students have had their visas revoked so far.

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u/North-Tumbleweed-785 1d ago

Highly recommend going to the local press. ProPublica has been doing a great job on a national level to report on these things as well.

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u/Navelgazed 1d ago

A friend just hired a Lebanese national on an F1 finishing up a masters at one of the CalStates. Except their visa got pulled and they frantically self deported last weekend. 

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u/No-Particular5490 1d ago

Are students from only certain countries being targeted?

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u/shinypenny01 1d ago

Reports so far of a variety of Asian and middle eastern countries, so where most of the international students come from.

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u/Beneficial-Jump-3877 Faculty, STEM, R-1 (USA) 1d ago

I had an employee on STEM OPT extension targeted yesterday for immediate removal. University of Texas.

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 1d ago

There appears to be a crude nationwide dragnet to revoke visas for any “criminals”. I say crude because they are revoking visas over offenses as minor as speeding tickets. Yes, you read that right.

It’s not a red state vs blue state thing so please everyone stop asking that. I’m at a flagship uni in a red state and know of multiple visa revocations. The offenses all were misdemeanors, the worst of which was a student being cited for public intoxication.

The cases are not being announced publicly so anyone saying “it’s not happening at my school” could simply be uninformed. I only know about some of these because I oversee my department’s grad program. Also, students are being notified directly, not through the schools as far as I know.

I have no problem with revoking visas from violent criminals or those involved in other serious crimes. But doing so for speeding tickets is just amateur hour kind of stuff.

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u/MadHatter_6 1d ago

There appears to be a crude nationwide dragnet to revoke visas for any “criminals”.

This just exploded yesterday as far as its extent at universities across the nation. What was true in the past about 'criminals only' may not be true today. Hang tight; we'll know more on Monday. The current government in Washington schedules its dirty work on Friday afternoons to be under the radar of news agencies that operate with less staff on the weekend.

You may be correct, but this is an evolving situation.

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 1d ago

I agree it is an evolving situation. It’s still “criminals only” but they’ve moved the goalposts on how severe the crime must be. I don’t expect the government to turn around and say “oh, whoops, we went too far” and reinstate any of these. Perhaps a student could challenge the decision in court if they have the resources to do so.

The changes to student status happened before Thursday because that’s when our international student office noticed status changes in the SEVIS system. I don’t think the government is particularly worried about process or timing.

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

If you have access to that system, do you have an idea what percentage of students are being targeted?

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 1d ago

It appears they are revoking student visas for anyone with any sort of criminal record, no matter how minor. So percentage is low. My college is large and I know of only three cases, so it’s like less than 0.5% for us. That’s not the point though to my thinking. Revoking a student visa over a speeding ticket is beyond absurd.

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

I agree it's absurd. My thinking was along the lines of Barack Obama when he told people that they were more likely to die slipping in the bathtub than in a terrorist attack. The terrorist attack is still abhorrent and should be dealt with, but not feared. For most international students, there is a parallel in more ways than one. (The administration seems to enjoy spreading terror.)

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u/Prestigious_Light315 1d ago

"Also, students are being notified directly, not through the schools as far as I know."

^ At least at NCSU, the government didn't notify the students. A university admin looked through their system, discovered it, and notified them. This is likely why some of the students taken by ICE were taken to begin with - they weren't notified and were taken before they could leave. 

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 18h ago

Hmmm, this may actually be the case for us too. Your comment prompted me to look back at the various messages I was on. I was told that the university was not notified, but not that students were notified. I may have leapt to a conclusion. Thanks for pointing this out. It's another example of complete disregard by the government for any form of appropriate process.

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u/cdougherty Contract Instructor, Public Policy (Canada) 1d ago

There are a lot of charges that are at an officer’s discretion, like loitering, jaywalking, trespassing, and disturbing the peace. These are the same laws used to criminalize homeless and racialized people.

Basically, if they can kick people out for breaking a any law, they don’t have to reach far for laws to charge anyone with breaking just by existing in public spaces.

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 1d ago

Yep. Our international students are on edge. I’d be too in their shoes.

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u/b00lz 1d ago

That's strange though. I thought that DHS does not have access to criminal records, let alone citations, unless somehow a county would share that information?

These should have never been grounds for revoking a visa, especially since when you apply for permanent residency or naturalization, there is always this question about whether the applicant has EVER been cited, arrested, etc. Most people have to answer yes and disclose even the smallest infraction such as a traffic ticket and the USCIS agent usually is fine with that explanation during the interview.

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 1d ago

I assume all criminal proceedings (including traffic tickets) are a matter of public record. At least one case I know of had the visa renewed after the misdemeanor case, but now it is revoked some time later. The goalposts are being moved.

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u/Beneficial-Jump-3877 Faculty, STEM, R-1 (USA) 1d ago

A megathread on this on the F1 visa subreddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/f1visa/comments/1jr1o8l/sevis_termination_megathread/

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u/ph3nixdown Asst Prof, STEM, R1 (US) 1d ago

The student's terminated for no apparent reason are either false positives/bad report entry by the officer or terminated for other reasons (AI hit on their social media, protesting, other prior F-1 violations)

So it seems like I can at least tell my students they will be fine as long as they are not arrested for anything.

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u/podkayne3000 1d ago

Well, does the AI pick up Reddit posts? Does simply joining certain subreddits lead to a student getting flagged?

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u/davidjricardo Clinical Assoc. Prof, Economics, R1 (US) 1d ago

I am sure it is widespread, but it is not all, at least not yet.

I teach at an R1 in Texas. I was at a meeting yesterday with the director of our center for global engagement who discussed international student concerns. He said that they check every morning to see if any of our international students have had their status withdrawn. As of yesterday, it had not happened to any of our students.

He also said that it was happening seemingly at random and discussed resources to assist international students now and in the event they have contact with ICE, But so far our students have been spared.

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u/wohllottalovw 1d ago

Both TAMU AND UT are on the F1 sub list. Something could have changed

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 1d ago

I have links, from a reply to someone deservedly getting buried with downvotes https://www.reddit.com/r/Professors/s/dCQlc5RSkp

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u/ParkWorld45 1d ago

Also, a letter from UCSD chancellor saying the same thing:

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1jrv1i8

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u/MajesticDriver2424 1d ago

This is terrifying and isn’t it also a way to further defund education? My sense is that foreign student tuition (even if covered by a grant or a scholarship or fellowship a specific dept can give out) starts at bigger dollar amount compared to domestic students.

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

It's a way to increase the deficit in goods and services. Since the money comes in from those other countries to pay the tuition. Education is an export in effect, whether technically classed as such or not, because money flows in and the current account deficit decreases.

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u/iloveregex 18h ago

I wonder if it’s in line with all of the other anti globalism policies - international students “take spots away” from domestic students. In the same way tariffs don’t magically make budgets work, same for domestic/international tuition. Sigh.

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u/littlered1984 1d ago

They are deporting students near me with (very) minor traffic violations. Sickening.

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u/richardhh 1d ago

Deported by the real Gazpacho.

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u/toothless_budgie 1d ago

That woman has literally no redeeming features. Dumb as rocks, ugly as shit, personality of a horsefly.

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u/Crowe3717 1d ago

Unfortunately one of the primary qualities that some people seem to look for in their politicians is hatefulness, and she has that in spades.

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u/toothless_budgie 1d ago

Indeed. When people vote for Trump it tells you more about them than it does about Trump.

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u/Ok-Drama-963 1d ago

His followers are a bigger threat than he is. He's 80. Some of them are in college.

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u/iTeachCSCI Ass'o Professor, Computer Science, R1 1d ago

That woman has literally no redeeming features.

I think she does a great job convincing some people to vote Democrat.

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u/mmmcheesecake2016 21h ago

Sounds like something Peggy Hill would say.

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u/nord-standard 1d ago

The strategy aims to reduce a profitable revenue stream for all American universities, effectively weakening their position financially.

Question is what are we going to do about it?

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u/Orbitrea Assoc. Prof., Sociology, Directional (USA) 1d ago

Rubio just announced visa revocations for students from South Sudan, because....reasons?

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u/bofstein 1d ago

Happening at University of California campuses, just saw a news story from the student newspaper today

https://newuniversity.org/2025/04/05/trump-administration-revokes-visas-from-multiple-uci-and-uc-students/

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u/MadHatter_6 1d ago

Real questions are:

  1. Do the affected non-US citizens in academic institutions pose a genuine criminal or espionage threat? or

  2. Is this an ethno-cleansing to remove some non-US citizens based on middle eastern, indian, asian, or hispanic country of origin? or

  3. Is this part of an on-going process to deport anyone who has in any way violated terms of their visa? or

  4. Other

I am open to 'other' as a possbility.

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u/nord-standard 23h ago

It's a way to weaken the universities.

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u/alaskawolfjoe 1d ago

I teach at an institution with a larger than average number of international students. Many are muslim and a number from Venezuela. We have not had any deportations (though we are taking precautions).

If you are real, OP, can you state why your institution is being targeted?

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u/ParkWorld45 1d ago

Check /r/UCSD

There's a letter from the chancellor saying they just had students getting their visa revoked.

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u/alaskawolfjoe 1d ago

I guess when they realized how hard it would be to find and deport undocumented immigrants, they decided to go after those who did everything nice and legal.

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u/TrustMeImADrofecon Asst. Prof., Biz. , Public R-1 LGU (US) 1d ago

I don't think that is what this is. Not explicitly. I think this is much more about sending a message to higher ed and taking actions that will gin-up press. The spin dokkktors that work in this administration have likely figured out that some institutions will respond publicly, which keeps it in the news so they look like they are "doing something" to their rabid, sociopathic base. But they also know many of these institutions will be too afraid to push too hard for fear of their Federal funding being threatened and thus they reinforce a new locus of power and control. The added bonus is that international students looking to come to or stay in the US will now think twice, reducing the number of "undesireables" looking to enter and harming IHE budgets.

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u/UrsusMaritimus2 1d ago

I think it’s mostly about sowing fear and confusion within higher ed. Weakening their perceived enemy.

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u/Xylophelia Instructor, Chemistry (USA) 1d ago

This is purely observational based on news reports and in no way a statistical analysis.

I’ve noticed it’s mostly deep blue states being targeted. Based on your name and your post history, you’re in a red voting state (whether that be Alaska or Florida) so I’m not surprised your institution hasn’t been targeted.

My dean (who’s wife is a green card holder) even commented the same last week—that he highly doubts our institution will have much issue since our state is low on maga agenda radar due to the voting trends being purple.

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u/teddy_vedder 1d ago

I don’t think any state should consider themselves safe from it, since they’ve pulled or are in the process of pulling students from schools in Alabama, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, etc

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u/Xylophelia Instructor, Chemistry (USA) 1d ago

I mean “not having much issue” ≠ “being safe”

The entire situation is fucked. 

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u/SpryArmadillo Prof, STEM, R1 (USA) 1d ago

It’s not just blue states. It is a nationwide sweep to revoke visas from any “criminals”. I’m in a red state and it’s happening to our international students. One of them has lost their visa due to, and I’m not making this up, a speeding ticket.

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u/AggravatingCamp9315 1d ago

What precautions can you really take though? Nobody has a say/can do anything.

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u/Sherd_nerd_17 1d ago

Yes we can. We can raise the alarm.

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u/alaskawolfjoe 1d ago

Protocols and warning systems.

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u/Mental_Extension_443 1d ago

I am real. No idea why we would be targeted. From the other responses seems like everyone is a target now.

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u/Ent_Soviet Adjunct, Philosophy & Ethics (USA) 18h ago

Temple U has 1 revoked and they fled the country.

The way administration everywhere is responding makes me want to leave academia. Feckless bastards

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u/Yopieieie 1d ago

i keep a MAGA hat in my car just incase i get pulled over by a cop.

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u/Muchwanted Tenured, social science, R1, Blue state school 1d ago

We have something like 8,000-10,000 international students at my university and I have not heard of any having their visas revoked. 🤞🤞

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u/mormegil1 Asst.Prof., Social Sciences, Public R1 (USA) 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is happening all over the country indeed. It's affecting two small groups of students. Those who had a felony or misdemeanor on record, even for minor things that happened 10+ years ago. Second, a smaller group of students who had advocated for designated terror groups or criticized the US government. This is new. It seems that the administration is using AI to scrape social media of students to look for such content.

Both types of issues have always been in the regulations. If you committed a felony like a DUI, your visa is liable to be revoked or not renewed, for example. It's just that these rules are now being broadly and strictly implemented to fill up the administration's numbers for deportations. Overall, it's affecting a tiny number of students, less than 1% of foreign students in any given university, so I wouldn't panic if I were a international student. Head over to r/f1visa where they have more information with a sticky megathread on deportations. https://www.reddit.com/r/f1visa/s/EeFnrJte9j

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u/OccasionBest7706 Adjunct, Env.Sci, R2,Regional (USA) 1d ago

Is this not a violation of the first amendment

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u/mormegil1 Asst.Prof., Social Sciences, Public R1 (USA) 1d ago

It is, I suppose, but my understanding is that it's a grey area. Visa holders have fewer rights than citizens. Students need to be careful how to exercise their first amendment rights. I have been a international student and one of the first things my mother advised, long before 2016, is not to engage in any kind of criticisms of the host country's government or contentious political issues, either in public or over the internet, as long as I'm on a visa. Seems like common sense to me.

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u/Remarkable_Formal267 1d ago

This seems like common sense to me as well. I agree with your assessment, and think many on this sub are being hyperbolic

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u/mormegil1 Asst.Prof., Social Sciences, Public R1 (USA) 1d ago

Reddit can be a self feeding loop. But there is definitely a lot of anxiety among international students, faculty and staff.

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u/Finding_Way_ CC (USA) 1d ago

Can anyone explain to me in brief language the difference between a student Sevis and a student visa? On a different board they listed over 40 institutions, and counting, that have eliminated student Sevis

Does the illumination of a Sevis immediately eliminate a student visa and require the student to leave the United States?

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u/crmsnprd 1d ago

SEVIS is the Student Exchange and Visitor Information System, which is the online system that is used to maintain student visa information.

The designated international student services staffer (called the Designated School Official or DSO) has to maintain specific documentation in SEVIS for every international student. DSOs have to log into SEVIS to see if a student's visa has been cancelled, as the system doesn't send a notification to the student or the school.

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u/BearJew1991 Postdoc, Social Science/Public Health, R1(USA) 18h ago

Happening here in CA too

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u/SwordofGlass 1d ago

This absolutely is not happening at my institution, and mine is one that would be targeted.

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u/AggravatingCamp9315 1d ago

https://www.ourmidland.com/news/article/cmu-international-students-visa-termination-20259385.php

They are not necessarily telling anyone. It's not something you should feel confident about.

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u/savedagwood 1d ago

Are you sure you know?  One of our students found out  from our international affairs office their SEVIS was revoked yesterday 4/4 - individual faculty would not have had any idea except for the student contacting us themselves to inform us of what’s going on.  It’s possible that more of our students have experienced the same and we just don’t know, or that it’s happening for other students in other departments too and word hasn’t filtered out yet. (large public midwest R1)

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u/HonkyMOFO Associate Prof., Arts, R1 (USA) 1d ago

Red or Blue state?

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u/throwitfarandwide_1 23h ago

Being here in USA a privilege that comes with strings attached. As it does being in other counties as a guest. If you break the law you have violated those conditions. It’s no different in other countries.

As the Chinese proverb says. to scare a monkey ….cut off the head of a chicken.

It is a mere handful -the lesson here is focus on your studies, don’t break the law and our arms are wide open.

But FAFO ….

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u/nord-standard 23h ago

But most students detained haven't broken any laws. Do you not know this? Do you want a government to teach us random ideological lessons?

As a Chinese proverb says: cut off your fingers to spite the hand.

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u/throwitfarandwide_1 23h ago

We don’t know if they broke laws in the past. They are clearly on someone’s list and we can assume that came from police records. That’s how it’s been for most that we’ve seen here. Just a little digging and bingo.

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u/rckhppr 1d ago

Bad AI? Sound like DOGE!

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u/Witty-Rabbit-8225 1d ago

That’s the risk that comes with immigration to any country unfortunately. Until you are a citizen, you can be deported for any reason. I’m married to an immigrant. In various stages of Visa, we were always prepared for possible deportation (married with kids). Speed limit was never exceeded, laws were followed to a T, nefarious company was not kept, and we made certain we kept our appointments with office of immigration. Obviously not ideal, but that’s the reality of staying in any foreign country where you are not a citizen.

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u/Classic_Upstairs_153 1d ago

And if you break rules there are now consequences, hardly fascism.

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u/Witty-Rabbit-8225 22h ago

Not surprised by the downvotes as many professors forget that they are failing their students out of F1 visas and contributing to their deportations frequently. Following policy is paramount in academia but not society?

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u/BigSlickA 1d ago

Deporting known criminals…sounds good to me.

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u/madscientist2025 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes we should deport Donald Trump at least we agree on that

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u/Classic_Upstairs_153 1d ago

But not to supporters of the previous regime.

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u/Ok-Light9764 1d ago

Why the anonymous the account?

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u/[deleted] 2d ago edited 1d ago

Links? Sources? Or just hearsay? We need to stop fear-mongering and focus on the facts. This is why we lost the election.

Edit: yes I know people have been deported lately!! The part that is misleading is that the government is removing them at random. I’m guessing there was some sort of connection with activism against US interests as the case with the Columbia student. If there is legitimately no reason, this won’t hold up in cour

I don’t understand why a group of people that identify as professors would be hostile to dissenting opinions. Before you comment and call me “a stupid idiot”, consider your own biases

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u/qning 1d ago

-Minnesota college responds after 5 student visas revoked

-YouTube • WCCO - CBS Minnesota

-1 day ago

-At least 5 Ohio State students have visas revoked

-YouTube • WBNS 10TV

-15 hours ago

-8 ASU students have visas revoked

-YouTube • 12 News

-1 day ago

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u/Mental_Extension_443 2d ago

Not everything is gonna be a headline in the news. Our international office told our department head that this was happening and they talked to the students to try and figure out how it was happening. A student from our department was specifically identified as one having to leave the country, and leadership is scrambling around trying to figure out how they are going to finish their coursework.

So all I got is hearsay right now, take it however you want.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Ok so all international students are being plucked out of our country and deporting on the basis of nothing? Do you see how that sounds outrageous and can’t possibly be accurate?

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 1d ago

You’re so incredibly gullible it makes me wonder how you can escape wallet inspectors. ETA: or you are so unskilled at reading you think OP was saying “all” international students? Which is a bizarre way to parse it.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Yes that is how I read it. That students are being targeted for no reason, as in they were not associated with protests or crimes, and AI was used to put them on a list.

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 1d ago

… this is the sort of reasoning that under other circumstances would be okay with mass arrests of “enemies of the state”. I’m not joking: you are taking the enormously wrong side here.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Do you know what my side is based on such a short exchange? Are you asking for my opinion or do you want to continue assuming you know me and my political views?

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u/Harmania TT, Theatre, SLAC 1d ago

It is both outrageous and entirely in line with what is already publicly happening. These malign halfwits sent a guy to an El Salvadoran gulag for having a soccer tattoo. It’s time to stop trying to pretend that this is something other than what it is.

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u/Acidcat42 Assoc Prof, STEM, State U 1d ago

No one said "all" international students. If you're going to object to statements that you claim have no support, you should probably avoid inventing universal statements to ridicule the argument.

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u/Remarkable_Formal267 1d ago

The title says “all universities”

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u/timschwartz 1d ago

Yes, "all universities", not "all foreign students at all universities"

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

I extrapolated the content of the warning in this message to what it could mean for other international students. I don’t see how this was flawed logic

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 2d ago

No, this is happening all over. Failing to take these threats seriously is why Trump won.

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 2d ago

Eight students at ASU https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-education/2025/04/04/arizona-state-university-student-detained-after-visa-revocation/82793138007/

One at Alabama https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-video-shows-detainment-of-university-of-alabama-student-alireza-doroudi-tuscaloosa-protests-april-2025-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-ice

Five at UMass https://www.wwlp.com/news/local-news/hampshire-county/amherst/five-international-students-at-umass-have-visas-revoked-student-status-terminated/amp/

Five at OSU https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/education/2025/04/04/ohio-state-university-5-international-students-visas-revoked-trump/82893316007/

Several at Cincinnati https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/education/2025/04/03/visas-of-university-of-cincinnati-international-students-revoked/82800391007/

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u/mrt1416 1d ago

Also 2 at NC State

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Thanks for posting these. It sounds like the feds aren’t being transparent about the violations, but they have found evidence to terminate their visas

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u/shinypenny01 1d ago edited 1d ago

“Found evidence but won’t share” is functionally the same as no evidence, and is causing students to not apply to come to the USA.

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u/Diablojota Full Professor, Business, Balanced 1d ago

Our country is literally built upon the assumption that you’re innocent until proven guilty. This is not that. They’re not using due process to make these choices. It’s literally illegal.

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u/Mental_Extension_443 1d ago

Thanks for sharing the links, we had not heard this was happening other places as well. The summaries I read seem very similar to what’s happening here, the use of police records. In our case, these students were generally not involved in any crimes - one student said that her only contact with the police was to make a complaint against someone who was harassing her. So her name ends up in the police record and she gets deported? Obviously based only on her word but I wouldn’t be surprised at this point.

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 2d ago

I got bored and depressed finding these, but you can “do your own research” instead of concern trolling for (negative) clout

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

I’m not concern trolling, but thanks for dismissing my opinion without engaging in dialogue

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 1d ago

I mean, your contributions here have literally shown that you do not grasp what is going on and rush to take the Trump administration’s side. It’s a very poor look.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

I definitely do not take his side, I’m straight up trying to figure out how something this egregious could happen. Again, thanks for the disrespecting and condescending tone. Really helps promote discourse when ideas conflict

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u/North-Tumbleweed-785 1d ago

You haven’t considered that the Trump regime is openly bigoted and out to remove immigrants writ large from the U.S.? I mean, you just gotta read the EOs. The language / rhetoric is pretty telling if you read them with even a smidge of a critical eye.

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u/MathBelieve 1d ago

Something egregious like this can happen because people try to come up with reasons to justify it ....

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Ok thanks for posting these. As I suspected, Rubio is using a clause that allows removal of foreign nationals “acting against US national interests”. We will have to wait and see what this evidence is, and if it holds up in court

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u/Sisko_of_Nine 1d ago edited 1d ago

… what court? ETA: there are a few distant legal options but these are going to be long shots and probably not seen as worth it by many folks:

https://www.murthy.com/2025/04/04/f-1-student-visa-revocations-sevis-terminations/

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u/Crowe3717 1d ago

Even if there were legal recourse, something as vague as "acting against US national interests" is horrifying in the hands of the Trump administration. Do black history month celebrations count because they are "divisive"? Pride parades? Legal protests about controversial subjects (the first amendment does not protect people who break the law simply because they are speaking while they do it, but it is clear that this administration has no qualms about insinuating all protests are inherently illegal)?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

We won't have to wait and see it will never make it to court, we no longer live in a legally run society. you are incredibly gullible and stupid and it's making me angry seeing you keep posting the same "wait and see". You have no business teaching.

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u/oh_orpheus13 Biology 2d ago

Are you living under a rock?

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u/Cold-Nefariousness25 1d ago

The Tufts student who was abducted on the street by plain clothes officers because she asked the university to acknowledge that Israel was engaging in genocide.

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u/Remarkable_Formal267 1d ago

She wrote a piece about it in their school newspaper

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u/YellowMugBentMug 1d ago

And not even talking about genocide.