They are not morons. They know exactly what they are doing and choose to do it. They are not fools, they are just evil people who choose to do evil things. Most of them actually like it because hurting people and controlling them makes them feel powerful.
And this is another reason why free and fair elections will not happen again. All these people from Trump on down are breaking the law. They know if Dems get back in they will have to answer for it.
The Founding Fathers (explicitly): "To defend against tyrants."
The Founding Fathers (implicitly): "To defend against slave rebellions and angry rabble"
Modern Republicans: "to defend against scary-colored ne'er-do-wells and feral hogs."
Modern Democrats: "I don't know but I certainly think hunting is a worthwhile tradition."
Historical usage: Protect slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, and the activities of Fascist paramilitary organizations.
Maybe because Biden was a senile puppet. Don’t fall for the hype. Dems are not looking out for you. It’s a scam. Republicans are not looking out for you. Don’t depend on government to take care of you.
Thanks, Putin, for trying to convince us there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans. That might have fooled a couple people last year. This year, we're onto you.
There is a difference between them. Rs want to turn the country into a theocratic monarchy while the Ds would like to keep it a republic.
Make no mistake the Ds are better, but expecting them to actually do something is wishful thinking. Not holding traitors accountable in this country goes back to the Civil War.
I think it’s an issue you can’t call out Democrats for their feckless ways without someone screaming “Russian bot.”
You’re telling me you’re all absolutely fine with Chuck Schumer falling in line with the GOP? You’re cool with Pelosi shitting on AOC and getting an elderly cancer patient a position on the oversight committee? These corporate owned corpses aren’t on our side any more than any Republican cunt in power.
Looks at the current Democratic leadership and their actions over the past decade and a half while Republicans ran and continue to run roughshod over the constitution, sees them continuously do nothing about it, then calls a commenter "Putin" for pointing out that the Democrats literally do nothing but try to make amends with people that hate their guts.
Any time the Democratic base or progressives in the party try to enact change for the better, the Democrats rally their donors to run them out of town. I could name names, but it would be pointless to do so since you likely wouldn't listen any way.
You and the rest of the Democratic establishment need a wake-up call buddy.
I lost faith in the Dems when they failed to overturn the PATRIOT Act. Edward Snowden destroyed his own life so all of us could know about the government’s illegal mass surveillance of all of us. And what have the Dems done, other than expand those surveillance powers? The Dems are controlled opposition.
We need new faces, young and vocal, with the presence of AOC and the mind of Bernie.
But make no mistakes, we are here because every single politician failed, and I am in no mood of giving a pass to AOC or Bernie. They are the OLD GUARD: they also need to go.
We have a shot to maybe win this situation by overthrowing the regime, and the only way is by grassroots bipartisanship. You can’t obtain that with AOC and Bernie. The “other side” won’t look up at them.
What’s the point of that? For the most part it’s been a fairly good discussion. That’s what both parties should be doing. Not the divisive BS that’s being encouraged by your ruling party. What is wrong with a healthy exchange of opinions? Do you feel threatened by it?
I just want to try to understand the thinking on that. Let me see if I can paraphrase the narrative.
A) Bernie couldn’t even win the Dem Primary so how could he win the general election.
B) Hillary and Kamala lost because crybaby leftists didn’t just hold their nose and vote for the candidate closer to them than Trump.
My question is, if the Dems worked with Bernie’s groundbreaking grassroots movement of unprecedented voter enthusiasm and engagement instead of against it, don’t you think the mature “half of the left” that preferred Hillary and Kamala, would have held their nose and voted for Bernie?
In that case he would have united the left and center left. Instead Hillary and Kamala left his voters on the table and tried to win over moderate Republicans. And now they are bitter that the left didn’t show up for them.
Here is my problem with that. I was a Green Party member before registering as a Democrat in 2016 for the sole purpose of voting for Bernie. Not only did I vote, I donated for the first time ever, phone banked for the first time ever, and canvassed for the first time ever. I never owed Hillary or Biden or Kamala my vote. Because I never voted Democrat before Bernie. I was not an anomaly. There were millions like me. We never gave any indication we would vote for a mainstream Democrat so they should not be expecting our votes.
The question is: should Democrats have moved left and gained like 10% more prog votes? But that would have meant alienating the centrists (not "Republicans") and losing 15%. Dumb move.
Ask yourself: are trans athletes (or poor people, or whoever you care most about) better off with President Trump, as opposed to a President Kamala who didn't move left for the campaign? The answer is obvious. It was obvious before the election.
But hey, thanks for actually admitting you didn't vote for Hillary or Kamala, and thus share the blame for Trump being in power. Most progs aren't willing to do that.
Believe me, I'm at least as far left as you are. The difference is I understand that you can't help anybody unless you win elections first. And the median voter is not a leftist. So running centrist candidates is the only path to implementing liberal policies.
First, change minds. Second, change candidates. Third, change polices. Trying it in any other order will fail. Look at the last 50 years. Hell, just look at MLK. He didn't run for office, because he understood the sequence.
So. You are mad at the %10 left for not showing up. But think the the %15 wouldn’t have shown up for Bernie? That doesn’t make sense.
It is so obvious that the Dems need to court the left. If they pull their shady shit and rig it against AOC in 2028 expect Trump’s 3rd reich. I mean term.
First change minds, then candidates, then policies.
First change minds: The people have been ready for universal healthcare for a very long time. It is the Democrats that stop it.
Then change candidates: The movement Bernie built (and the Dems squashed) Was NEVER about Bernie. Bernie’s appeal is that he speaks for the people. He is more popular among independents than the Democrats.
Bernie’s policies are overwhelmingly popular. If the Dems run on them they would have trounced Trump.
It's an important distinction but you have to think three dimensionally. I've seen plenty of people say the real fight isn't right vs left it's top vs bottom.
If, by "Democrat," you mean "everyone registered as D, voting D, or just opposed to R" than both sides are absolutely not the same.
If you mean the DNC itself – including the majority of elected/electable Democrats (especially at the federal level) – and power players who are associated with the party than, yes, both sides are basically the same.
People in charge will rarely create precedent for holding people in charge accountable. It could backfire on them. The party has made some unforgivable mistakes that allow Trump/MAGA/Republicans to get stronger, take more ground. But also maybe they weren't exactly mistakes.
The further up the line of money and power you go, the less room there is between the sides. But when you only have two parties and every possible political stance has to be shoehorned into one or the other, of course there's considerable diversity in the ranks. Especially, it seems, among the Democrats. Which is partly why the party is misperceived as weak.
If this isn't true, explain why Garland did essentially nothing over the last four years? Explain why Democrats work with Republicans in Congress to suppress reports of sexual misconduct? Explain a NYT headline from 2016 about big money Dems who said they'd "have to" support Trump if Bernie won the nomination. The system is rigged so only the most compromised and questionable people will get near the top. Exceptions are rare.
I do think that after 12 years of denying them, the Dems are going to have a hard time putting a lid on the anti establishment fury which is now at a fever pitch.
Bold of you to hope the current regime will ever cede power. My bets are, full fascism, full revolutionary war, and/or collapse (collapse is imminent, just a matter if how delayed).
Sadly I must concur. When they deferred his punishments I thought this is a loss you will regret. They were shit scared of the GOP starting a civil war.
Now they will get it with the wanna be king ordering it.
I can't wait for Charles to CANCEL his state visit.
Because that's the kind of stuff that, believe it or not,
get him in the mind like a kick in the balls.
He'd spends X sleepless nights over it not to be seated next to a real king in his real castle.
The party that continues to embrace moneyed interests? Dems have been an arm of corporate interests for decades now, the only thing they’d bring to the table would be status quo.
Breaking the law? You retarded too? Millions of people poured in the border illegally. Illegally, say it again illegally, against the law. Ask yourselves why Democrats needed a 100 billion dollar bill, of which 20 billion was going to border. Trump stopped it all with a PEN. 🤔
What they need that other 80 billion for? May get huge surprises when the arrests start , it takes time 😁
Just like the "agents" that were wearing masks while taking them on & off the deportation flights, we need to punish rank & file feds that are "just following these (unlawful) orders."
Yeah but as the above posts (rightly) suggests, a few of these Boogeymen get smoked that will cool the rest out. OR force them to actually follow due process. Standing orders for all citizens should be, masked men approach? Shoot first ask questions later.
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u/OpeningPrune923 7d ago
So, if the perpetrators are masked, and in unmarked cars with no identification, can you shoot them claiming you were being kidnapped?