r/RedditSafety • u/worstnerd • Mar 05 '25

Warning users that upvote violent content

Today we are rolling out a new (sort of) enforcement action across the site. Historically, the only person actioned for posting violating content was the user who posted the content. The Reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content and report potentially violative content. This not only minimizes the distribution of the bad content, but it also ensures that the bad content is more likely to be removed. On the other hand, upvoting bad or violating content interferes with this system. 

So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning. We have done this in the past for quarantined communities and found that it did help to reduce exposure to bad content, so we are experimenting with this sitewide. This will begin with users who are upvoting violent content, but we may consider expanding this in the future. In addition, while this is currently “warn only,” we will consider adding additional actions down the road.

We know that the culture of a community is not just what gets posted, but what is engaged with. Voting comes with responsibility. This will have no impact on the vast majority of users as most already downvote or report abusive content. It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem is healthy and that there is no tolerance for abuse on the site.

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u/Jibrish Mar 05 '25

I am so here for this.

I assume the definition is going to match what we see in the anti-evil log for violent content? If so, that is a pretty reasonable way to go about it. However, huge swathes of reddit will be in for a shock but maybe that's a good thing.

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u/iBizzBee Mar 05 '25

Why did I 100% know I was going to find the subs I found when I looked at your post history, lol.

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u/BeingRightAmbassador Mar 06 '25

Because only a certain type of person supports this type of censorship.

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u/The_Dead_Kennys Mar 06 '25

Wow you weren’t kidding, it’s exactly what I expected

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u/shikull Mar 06 '25

I was like "what could you possibly mea- oh I see, that makes 10,000% sense"

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u/brandbacon Mar 06 '25

The avatar pretty much gives it away. Nice crown bud

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u/Bross93 Mar 06 '25

Yeah, its very clear this decision on the admins part is to stifle voices that dissent with the fascists.

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u/aerger Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

I thought the same thing and was similarly not at all surprised.

edit: though > thought

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u/Jibrish Mar 05 '25

Correct, we solved these issues years ago and think the fight should be continued on the rest of reddit.

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u/theREALbombedrumbum Mar 06 '25

Bro you're a mod who removes any content that disagrees with you for funsies. That's not something to aspire to as an entire platform.

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u/toweliectl Mar 05 '25

By banning anyone you don't agree with?

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u/Agent_03 Mar 05 '25

Yeah, imagine my shock that the mod who requires actual ideological purity tests to comment in their community (arr-Conservative) also loves other forms of censorship. Absolutely unexpected.

(/s)

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u/Jibrish Mar 06 '25

You literally mod rOntario which runs hiveprotect, lmfao.

You automated banning people you don't like.

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u/Agent_03 Mar 06 '25

Sorry, what’s that? I couldn’t hear you because you failed your ideological purity test, so you don’t have flair and are shadowbanned.

Hey, I’ve got a great idea: why don’t you ban a bunch of your normal users and claim they were leftist infiltrators? Especially when they’re just complaining that Musk throwing textbook Nazi salutes is a “bad look”? Oh damn, you already did that?

The best and most hilarious part of this: the top mod of r/Ontario when I joined was an actual conservative. Our conservatives just aren’t completely off in crazy land like you MAGAs.

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u/Jibrish Mar 06 '25

Lol I must have struck a nerve.

Always remember which sub has hiveprotect and which does not. You're worse than us.

Amateurs too if you even need that for such a low activity subreddit, oof.

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u/Agent_03 Mar 06 '25

No, I think you misunderstand, I'm thoroughly enjoying myself. It isn't every day that I get to dunk on mods of an echo chamber -- to their face -- for openly cheering censorship.

The only way this would be more perfect if I had a screenshot of you in another thread where you were doing the usual far-right complaints about "free speech" after someone told you to stop slinging racist dogwhistles.

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u/Jibrish Mar 06 '25

It isn't every day that I get to dunk on mods of an echo chamber -- to their face -- for openly cheering censorship.

We have a 70k discord open to all spectrums. I'm on VC a lot. It ain't hard. None of you ever take that though. Curious.

The only way this would be more perfect if I had a screenshot of you in another thread where you were doing the usual far-right complaints about "free speech" after someone told you to stop slinging racist dogwhistles.

Weird headcannon you got there. You don't actually know any conservatives, do you?

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u/kfrancis95 Mar 06 '25

Bro r/conservative is literally home of the “flaired users only” posts. Foh with that “hive protect” bs

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u/Co-ffeeMonster Mar 06 '25

Right? The hypocrisy. We're open to discussions but only if you agree with us!

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

The one with purity tests before you can even comment?

Which one was that again?

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u/Dark_Link_1996 Mar 06 '25

Mr flared users only safe space

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u/Jibrish Mar 06 '25

I do disagree with people calling for violence, yes. You don't?

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u/CarrotDesign Mar 06 '25

Trump? Elon? Netanyahu?

No, not like that, you mean?

Hypocritical connies. Typical.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Like someone calling to invade sovereign nations?

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u/dontcarewhatImcalled Mar 06 '25

You mean like Trump?

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u/barrinmw Mar 06 '25

They walked right into it, if it was a rake, they would have broken their nose.

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u/Sempere Mar 06 '25

Oh he won't like that one.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

This is where I would usually mention something about “being mad if they knew how to read…”

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u/ThatKehdRiley Mar 06 '25

Yes, the solution should definitely be to be anti-free speech and make sure no conversations or real facts enter r/Conservative. No hypocrisy at all.

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u/tenderooskies Mar 06 '25

hilarious that a mod from "conservative" is here saying this - LO - fn -L

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u/-I_i_I Mar 06 '25

He also mods r/tiktok

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u/Sempere Mar 06 '25

Should tell you all you need to know about that.

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u/AdDue7140 Mar 06 '25

You said the F word. Reported for violence. ❄️

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u/kfrancis95 Mar 06 '25

lol he’s so happy he has a safe space now

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

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u/Jibrish Mar 06 '25

Incorrect - we don't run safestbot or hiveprotect. You should look up what those do and look at what subs they mod (you won't).

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u/Aran_Aran_Aran Mar 06 '25

My guy, your entire subreddit is one giant safe space. You guys, on the regular, don't even allow other self-avowed conservatives to disagree with a position because it doesn't line up with what you've been told to believe. You're just drones training others to become drones.

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u/Slitherygnu3 Mar 06 '25

flaired users only lmao go crawl back to your safespace

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

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u/Jedimaster996 Mar 06 '25

r/Conservative is literally notorious across all of Reddit for that lmao. The people who believe they're patriots and bastions for 'free speech' are some of the most ban-heavy if you dare to question or suggest otherwise to the hivemind. God forbid you dare to disagree with Dear Leader, that's a paddlin ban.

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u/BuckRowdy Mar 06 '25

That is simply how Republicans are wired. It's clear to the most casual observer. So why would their activity on reddit be any different?

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u/anon_sir Mar 06 '25

It wouldn’t be removed because you wouldn’t even be allowed to post it. They aren’t interested in anything outside their echo chamber.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Fitting username at least… everything you said in fact reads like insensible gibberish!

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u/BuckRowdy Mar 06 '25

I never deleted my account btw

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u/BuckRowdy Mar 06 '25

At this point, they are going to have to change the name of SRD for how often this sub hits it.

Imagine wanting to be in charge of something like that.

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u/Bross93 Mar 06 '25

They love their little safe space.

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u/TheBlackLight Mar 07 '25

Wow, the mod of the most thin skinned and insecure snowflake subreddits is in support of this. Go figure. I wonder if the threats of violence were directed at immigrants and/or other minorities you would still feel this way. What about violent rhetoric against Ukrainians, or Canadians, or Democrats?

Perhaps you should consider something constructive like therapy and growing as a person, instead of desperately trying to warp reality to protect your small mind and fragile ego.

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u/rydan 27d ago

He's only in support of it because you are whining about it. If you supported it they'd be claiming it was a massive conspiracy from the deepstate that only Trump can fix.

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u/rhabarberabar Mar 07 '25

You "free speech" "muh du freedom" rightwingers really love people being censored, right?

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u/_Nicktheinfamous_ Mar 07 '25

I don't think I've seen a common more worthy of downvotes than yours.

Bravo 👏🏾

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u/worstnerd Mar 05 '25

Yeah, thats correct, it will be triggered by that exact set of removals

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u/pm_me_fibonaccis Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

Get real. AEO has removed comments from people for simply not being sympathetic, e.g. a clear "who cares" type of comment. Apparently failing to have sympathy with a victim is also violence now.

Literal comment on a post about somebody's home being shot at: "Oh no! Anyway, it's raining today. We needed the rain." which was deleted by AEO. As a moderator, I remind myself that I'm not an arbiter of taste or manners. Failing to demonstrate sympathy is perhaps crude and tasteless, but it's not violence, no matter how much you want it to be. Otherwise, you're going to have your hands full banning thousands of people for demonstrating schadenfreude at one point or another. Start on r/conservative, they seem to take joy at the suffering of the downtrodden.

Furthermore, AEO took pains to punish people for naming Elon's brownshirts who illegally violated the privacy of millions of people, claiming doxxing rules, even after they were publicly named by numerous mainstream news sources, thus making them public figures.

This is just some of the many examples of how you overstep enforcing your own rules. It's just one of the many reasons why I don't believe you for a single second.

Of course the fascists applaud it: you're picking sides, and everyone can see it. Now that you're including upvoting as an actionable activity we're continuing down this slippery slope.

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u/Gachanotic Mar 06 '25

The warning you get doesn't mention what you upvoted specifically either, - and there is no appeal process.

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u/GrandmaPoses Mar 06 '25

r/conservative should be banned already for actively supporting illegal activity.

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u/bwood246 Mar 06 '25

Right? They're full on supporting the annexation of an allied nation, how is that not bannable

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u/Jibrish 25d ago

Start on r/conservative, they seem to take joy at the suffering of the downtrodden.

A quick glance shows your sub is riddled with unmoderated violent content, FYI.

You should start by doing your job as a moderator and get on that. Reddit admins have to do this because you all don't.

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u/pm_me_fibonaccis 25d ago edited 25d ago

Violent content is dealt with when it is seen, and we have a thorough filter system in place. Lately, admins seem content with censoring criticism and insults directed towards Elon Musk, which is thankfully not yet considered violent content. I'm sure conservatives are already working to fix that, if the claims of boycotting being illegal are any indication.

I am not yet obligated to enforce Reddit's censorship, and neither did I ask for advice on how I should do it.

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u/Jibrish 25d ago

Violent content is dealt with when it is seen, and we have a thorough filter system in place.

10 seconds on pushshift proved that was a lie.

I am not yet obligated to enforce Reddit's censorship, and neither did I ask for advice on how I should do it.

That's great. I didn't give you advice - I said you were bad at your job and this is why the rules are here. If you can't handle it hand it to someone else.

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u/pm_me_fibonaccis 24d ago

I did not ask, and I do not value your opinion. Have the day you deserve.

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u/ClockOfTheLongNow Mar 05 '25

Will you be providing moderators more insight into why the AEO removals occur?

Is AEO moving away from automated actions? I've had to escalate a lot of reports over the last year to stuff AEO cleared.

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u/MajorParadox Mar 05 '25

If those get reported for a safety review and the removal is backtracked, would the warning be removed, too? Would they be informed that the warning was sent in error? If there are any red flags on the account because of it, would those be reversed?

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u/BuckRowdy Mar 06 '25

You do realize you are recreating the 'regex two problems' thing with this initiative don't you?

Unless you fix the ridiculously stupid removals this bot often makes you are going to have a world of unintended consequences. I hope you're ready to kill off engagement on the entire site unless you do something about that.

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u/Drunken_Economist Mar 07 '25

Does it check if there was any subsequent unvote events? (For cases where someone fat finger upvoted or something)

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u/Summerie Mar 07 '25

They said that they are issuing warnings for up voting a certain amount of violent content in a certain amount of time, so yeah.

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u/rhabarberabar Mar 07 '25

Ah of cause one of your only comments here is sucking up to an r/conservative mod :D

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u/SixthSacrifice Mar 06 '25

If you don't make this change retroactive to the last decade of all the calls for violence made and endorsed by certain demographics, you are making the problem worse. There are members of this website that your system would flag a hundred times over for their upvotes if you made it retroactive.

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u/Summerie Mar 07 '25

The concept of making a rule retroactive is kind of ridiculous on its own though. How do you make a new rule, and then go back and charge people for violating it, when they weren't breaking any rules at the time?

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u/SixthSacrifice Mar 07 '25

Well it starts by retroactively applying the rules to all the violence right-wing posts that they've historically ignored.

Instead of punishing people for expressing support of a man who has not been proven guilty in a court of law.

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u/Jibrish Mar 05 '25

Beautiful, thank you. Here's to hoping.

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u/Beardedsmith Mar 06 '25

A mod of the most snowflake pro censorship echo chamber on this site is in favor of more censorship?

I simply don't believe it

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u/Visual_Mycologist_1 Mar 06 '25

You're finally getting your safe space, snowflake! Congratulations.

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u/red_the_room Mar 06 '25

Aren’t you guys the party that supports safe spaces? I guess that’s only for people you agree with?

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u/barrinmw Mar 06 '25

Nobody would have a problem with conservatives having their safe spaces if they didn't claim to hate them and support free speech to a fault.

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u/Visual_Mycologist_1 Mar 06 '25

"you guys" this isn't team sports, jackass

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u/red_the_room Mar 06 '25

I’m sorry group identifications are too hard for you to understand.

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u/Visual_Mycologist_1 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

You should probably google a multi-syllable word like that before you try to dunk on someone with it.

Lol, he edited it and it still makes no sense

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u/red_the_room Mar 07 '25

Autocorrect, genius.

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u/Visual_Mycologist_1 Mar 07 '25

Wouldn't know what that's like. I don't use mine 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Dark_Link_1996 Mar 06 '25

Like when conservatives threaten violence against minorities and Democrats.

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u/jamesnollie88 Mar 06 '25

fReE sPeEcH AbSoLuTiSt

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u/Wafflecopter84 Mar 07 '25

FrEeDoM oF SpEeCh DoEsN't MeAn FrEeDoM fRoM cOnSeQuEnCeS

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

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u/abaum525 Mar 07 '25

They wish they could ban us all so bad right now.

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u/Jibrish 25d ago

Nah. You all being over the top violent is useful for us in the upcoming election cycles.

I just happen to care about the state of discourse and society - you do not.

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u/abaum525 25d ago

I can tell you I wasn't beating police officers on Jan 6, 2021 like Trump humpers. They are the real threat.

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u/Jibrish 22d ago

Now do May to November 2020.

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u/abaum525 21d ago

Some of those facing charges undoubtedly share far-left and anti-government views. Far-right protesters also have been arrested and charged. Some defendants have driven to protests from out of state. Some have criminal records and were illegally carrying weapons. Others are accused of using the protests as an opportunity to steal or create havoc.

Edit - not that you actually want information. You could have "done the research."

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u/Jibrish 21d ago

By this definition:

Very few of those charged appear to be affiliated with highly organized extremist groups

That would also reduce incidents with j6 to IIRC, 3 or 4 (Proudboys / OB)

If we further discount everyone that drove from out of state that brings even the Proudboys arrests to '0' for what counts.

Your counter argument makes 0 sense. You've cited that an entire left wing movement that effectively burned down the country for 6 months doesn't count because some of those arrested aren't explicitly affiliated with a highly organized left wing group. (Though even them some of them absolutely were). But yet j6 counts despite the criteria for you discounting these events rules out every single j6 rioter. Adding to that - despite these high standards there are those that do qualify for the BLM riots... dozens even.

Nah, you must be consistent. BLM riots were objectively violent, nationwide, and produced hundreds of riots. So was the singular event of j6.

There's a reason only reddit pushes this narrative in this era. You've never heard the opposition - only the random outliers brought to you on the front page.

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u/abaum525 21d ago

"You've never heard the opposition," is rich coming from someone who bans users who post opposing views.

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u/Jibrish 21d ago

I quite literally own one of the biggest political debate servers that exists. I'm sorry you're upset the subreddit must remain on topic - but that's why I made the discord ;) I'll be your huckleberry any day.

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u/anon_sir Mar 06 '25

Of course you are, conservatives love censorship.

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u/Wafflecopter84 Mar 07 '25

Conservatives love censorship of violence. Leftists love censorship of conservatives. They're not the same.

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u/Donny_Donnt 28d ago

Similar enough for it to be justified to [redacted] both of them.

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u/Wafflecopter84 28d ago

Yeah ok...

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u/bwood246 Mar 06 '25

Average member of the Free Speech party

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u/thedreadwoods Mar 06 '25

Snowflake wants echo chamber.

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u/Wafflecopter84 Mar 07 '25

Dude, this is reddit...

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u/narf_hots Mar 06 '25

your whole sub is going down first

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u/3mpyr Mar 06 '25

Typical Redcoat behavior

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u/GothWitchOfBrooklyn Mar 06 '25

"the party of free speech" LOL

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u/twentythirtyone Mar 07 '25

Of course you are