r/SipsTea 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! College scammed them

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

What you're arguing for, that if someone who is disabled is only half as capable, they should only get half the pay,

I mean, if they're only half as capable (I'm not making that argument, you are) they probably shouldn't even be hired. The students deserve a quality education. I think they're 100% capable, but that doesn't mean they should get 200% pay for doing 100% of the job. The fact of the matter is they are doing the job of one person, so they get the pay of 1 person. They knew this going in. It wasn't a surprise to them after graduation to learn that they wouldn't be paid for two people to teach one class. There are jobs that they could have been hired that would earn them pay for 2 people, but they chose one that is only suited for the pay of one person.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

I mean, if they're only half as capable (I'm not making that argument, you are)

No, I'm not.

I'm saying they're fully capable. They're fully doing two jobs. They're two people, both working.

You're the one, saying they're doing one job. Two people, sharing one job, so they get paid half each.

Would you apply that logic to anyone else? I hope not. The hours aren't half and half are they?

They knew this going in

Ah, exploitation is ok if you opt in! I'll let the indentured servants in the middle east know!

It wasn't a surprise to them

Yeah I imagine there is a lot of shit they aren't surprised by. I wouldn't extend that to mean it's good.

There are jobs that they could have been hired that would earn them pay for 2 people, but they chose one that is only suited for the pay of one person.

... This is so dystopian. What other person do you apply that logic to?

Oh you shouldn't be a teacher, you're more suited to a supermarket role, so it's ok to pay half?

That's fucking evil mate.

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

They're fully doing two jobs.

Teaching one class is one job whether you have 1 teacher, 12 teachers, or 3 dogs in a trenchcoat.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

But they're, BOTH, teaching that class.

That's two people. Working hours.

If you have 12 teachers doing that, you need to pay, 12 times.

That's how pay works.

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

If you have 12 teachers doing that, you need to pay, 12 times.

Which is why we don't do that. Also, who tf taught you how to use commas? You just, pu,t them wherever, YOU, want apparently,,,

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

Which is why we don't do that.

Yeah, so your take, is "disabled? Fuck you then".

So....

You're wrong.

You just, pu,t them wherever, YOU, want apparently,,,

Yeah, you can use them to break up sentances to direct people how to read them.

You're the guy or did

2 teachers, or 3 dogs in a trenchcoat.

So don't @ me about comma use lol.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

That's literally a correct way to use commas.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

No, that's for when it's an independent clause.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

No, you use commas for both of them, where using them before "or" and "and" is optional, search up the Oxford comma.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

You're trolling. You have to know it's use is a "thing".

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Ok, so it's like...everything else in life? You said "your point about my comma usage is invalid because you used commas wrong" (paraphrased, of course) even though the person used commas in a valid way? Then I called you out on it, and you call me a troll? If anything, you're the troll here.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

So you're allowed to call them one worker and I'm not allowed to be on the no oxford commas side?

Jfc that's a bold set of priorities.

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u/BeeBarnes1 1d ago

Yeah well that's not in the budget so Miss Hensel and Mrs. Bowling are shit out of luck.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

I understand the consequences of not accepted unfair pay in your eyes.

In my opinion, that's a little evil for me. And not how we should want to treat disabled or vulnerable people.

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u/EchidnaMore1839 1d ago

“How we should” and “how we do” are 2 different conversations.

Them getting a single salary is fair to all the other teachers who are a single teacher doing the job of a single teacher. Government disability should cover the rest essentially as unemployment, but it likely does not.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

Them getting a single salary is fair to all the other teachers

That is a wildly asshole take.

Not only do conjoined twins experience all the issues that come with it, health and socially...

Because they are joined, they DON'T DESERVE to be paid independently? Because it would be unfair to others? Are you sure you think that? That's crazy.

We're still on the "half a job" thing.

are 2 different conversations.

You're right, I'm saying how we should.

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u/EchidnaMore1839 1d ago

You can “wow” all you want. That’s the society we live in.

If Lisa shows up to work the cash register, but insists on having her emotional support friend Mark there, it doesn’t matter if Mark is also working the register. Nobody is going to pay them 2 wages.

The fact that it’s a disability should be dealt with by the government, not the business.

You can call me an asshole all you want for pointing out the obvious that other teachers would take issue with them getting 2x the salary to do the job of 1 person.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

but insists on having her emotional support friend Mark there

I'm going to wow again,

Because you just said, that they can have fair pay, when they can walk away from each other.

.... Wow.

the business.

Firstly, no, businesses shouldn't be a free for all with fair pay.

Secondly, it's teaching.

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u/Prospekt-- 7h ago

they are doing one persons worth of job, you get paid to do a job, they can only do the job of one person, even if they are two people, so they are going to get paid for the job they do, which is that of one person.

They could've chosen a different career that allowed both of them to get paid by choosing a career that allowed them to do the job of two people, but they didnt, it was their choice

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u/TheGreendaleGrappler 1d ago

Ooof man you’re not very bright are you.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

Consider the thought mutual.