r/SipsTea 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! College scammed them

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

And they're doing the work, of two people,

This would make sense in a different line of work. But they're 5th grade teachers. They're teaching one class. That is the job of one person.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

But they're not, one person. Understand?

They're two people. Doing the job, who are joined.

Conceptually, I need you to understand, that's two people, who are working.

And that our concepts of fair pay,

Apply to both of them.

What you're saying, is that if I take two fifth grade teachers.... And put a big jumper on them and don't let them take them off...

I can half their pay.

That, is Stephen King levels of dystopia.

I suggest, that we decide, that everyone, deserves fair pay.

And that's even, if they're not as productive, as you want. Fair work, fair pay. For everyone.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Nobody is denying that they are 2 people. But they are only one teacher. It's not the same as having, say a teacher's aid, who is a seperate human being who can help other students/watch them.

Let's look at this logically. Since that seems to be a struggle for you, I'll make it simple. Schools (especially public schools) don't have a lot of money. Having teachers cost money. The twins can teach. But they can only teach one class at a time. Who else can teach one class at a time? A single teacher. That's why they get paid a single salary.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

But they are only one teacher.

.... That's only true, if only one of them is working.

Schools (especially public schools) don't have a lot of money

I think our society is capable of paying conjoined twins fairly.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

... That's only true, if one of them is working

Why isn't this getting through your head? They teach one class, they are effectively one teacher. Because they aren't as efficient as two TEACHERS, TEACHING SEPERATE CLASSES, they don't get the double salary.

I think our society is capable of paying conjoined twins fairly. 

But if we pay them double for one job, something of someone else has to be cut to compensate for that pay

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

They're two people. They're both teaching.

I don't care how many classes it is. They're both at work.

Two pays.

someone else has to be cut

I think our society can probably support conjoined twins being paid fairly.

as efficient

Can I half your pay?

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Once again, not denying that they are 2 people. But they are only one worker, and get that pay.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

they are only one worker

Ok.

That's not true. They are two people. And they are both working.

That's two workers.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

I worded it poorly, and that's my mistake, perhaps it's better to say that they on par with a single worker

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

They're not. It's two people. Who are joined.

You can't have two people, who are a single worker, unless one isn't working.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

I don't care how many classes it is. They're both at work.

On average, a part time teacher teaches less classes than a full time teacher. Do you propose that they make the same amount as a full time teacher since they both work?

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

No, that's stupid.

You're not going to be able to manipulate me into accepting your "half a job" thing. Each of them aren't half working.

1 hour of work, 1 hour of pay, per person.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

1 hour of work, 1 hour of pay, per person.

Teachers are salaried, not paid hourly (although I'm unsure about the twins' situation). They receive a single salary for the work they do, and since they aren't doing the work of two teachers, they don't get double the pay. While they collaborate, they complete one job together, not the equivalent of two separate roles.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago edited 1d ago

They are doing the work of two people.

Because they're two people. And they're both working.

I'm sure you can count.

I'll accept your idea, when one of them can stay home.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Jesus fucking Christ you are dumb. Their work is like a group project. One goal, with multiple people working on it. They get one grade (which represents the salaray) for the collective work, based on how well they did on the project. They both worked on a single thing.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

No, it's not collective. No other teachers are paid that way.

Two people, two jobs, two pays.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Why is it not collective? They don't have two jobs, they can't have two jobs at the same time

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