r/SipsTea 1d ago

Wait a damn minute! College scammed them

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago edited 1d ago

If they had to get 2 salaries they simply wouldn't get hired.

Aka, the fuck people with disability method of thinking.

1 persons worth of work

But they're not. They're 2 people. Who are... Conjoined. That's what it means.

It sucks but thats the way it goes.

... That's just how you think about it.

You're also just discovering the hardship people with disability face and how often they accept unfair conditions because of the lack of opportunity they face, the same happens for many vulnerable people. Have you ever wondered why illegal Mexicans do insanely hard labour for unfair pay?

Because they have no other choice in an exploitative system.

You're so close to experience an emancipation moment. I think that is fascinating.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

But they only do the work that is equal to one person. Because they are conjoined they aren't the equivalent of 2 teachers, but rather one. Jeez, your ability to read is lower than my chance of getting a girlfriend

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

But they're not one person.

They're two people. And they're doing the work, of two people, because, they're both there doing the work.

Imagine you and your work mate, you have two salaries.

If I put a jumper on you, so you can't move away from each other. And I glue it on real good so you're stuck like that.

Is it ok to half your pay? Or maybe, fire you! That's be fine, right? That's so good, that's so good until you realise that's real. And that is bad for you. And now you can't pay your bills and your lifestyle is fucked and it's not your fault you didn't ask for the jumper it's just how it is....

Welcome to the bane of the disability, where the loser of the predatory assholery, is now YOU.

Then you'd care.

So I suggest, we employ empathy. And we decide that actually, they are two people. And they're both working. Which is backed up, by being true.

my chance of getting a girlfriend

Exploitation is unattractive.

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

And they're doing the work, of two people,

This would make sense in a different line of work. But they're 5th grade teachers. They're teaching one class. That is the job of one person.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

But they're not, one person. Understand?

They're two people. Doing the job, who are joined.

Conceptually, I need you to understand, that's two people, who are working.

And that our concepts of fair pay,

Apply to both of them.

What you're saying, is that if I take two fifth grade teachers.... And put a big jumper on them and don't let them take them off...

I can half their pay.

That, is Stephen King levels of dystopia.

I suggest, that we decide, that everyone, deserves fair pay.

And that's even, if they're not as productive, as you want. Fair work, fair pay. For everyone.

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u/TheFloridaKraken 1d ago

But they're not, one person. Understand?

Yes Mr Condescending, I get that. No one is questioning if they're 1, 2, or 3 people.

hey're two people. Doing the job, who are joined.

Correct. The job. Singular. The job that pays 1 teacher to perform.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

The job, which they both do. All teachers, do "the job" of teaching.

That doesn't mean, you can split a salary between them all, does it?

They're both working. That's the truth.

And if they're both working, they both get fair pay.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Nobody is denying that they are 2 people. But they are only one teacher. It's not the same as having, say a teacher's aid, who is a seperate human being who can help other students/watch them.

Let's look at this logically. Since that seems to be a struggle for you, I'll make it simple. Schools (especially public schools) don't have a lot of money. Having teachers cost money. The twins can teach. But they can only teach one class at a time. Who else can teach one class at a time? A single teacher. That's why they get paid a single salary.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

But they are only one teacher.

.... That's only true, if only one of them is working.

Schools (especially public schools) don't have a lot of money

I think our society is capable of paying conjoined twins fairly.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

... That's only true, if one of them is working

Why isn't this getting through your head? They teach one class, they are effectively one teacher. Because they aren't as efficient as two TEACHERS, TEACHING SEPERATE CLASSES, they don't get the double salary.

I think our society is capable of paying conjoined twins fairly. 

But if we pay them double for one job, something of someone else has to be cut to compensate for that pay

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

They're two people. They're both teaching.

I don't care how many classes it is. They're both at work.

Two pays.

someone else has to be cut

I think our society can probably support conjoined twins being paid fairly.

as efficient

Can I half your pay?

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

Once again, not denying that they are 2 people. But they are only one worker, and get that pay.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

they are only one worker

Ok.

That's not true. They are two people. And they are both working.

That's two workers.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

I worded it poorly, and that's my mistake, perhaps it's better to say that they on par with a single worker

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

They're not. It's two people. Who are joined.

You can't have two people, who are a single worker, unless one isn't working.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

I don't care how many classes it is. They're both at work.

On average, a part time teacher teaches less classes than a full time teacher. Do you propose that they make the same amount as a full time teacher since they both work?

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

No, that's stupid.

You're not going to be able to manipulate me into accepting your "half a job" thing. Each of them aren't half working.

1 hour of work, 1 hour of pay, per person.

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u/Germisstuck 1d ago

1 hour of work, 1 hour of pay, per person.

Teachers are salaried, not paid hourly (although I'm unsure about the twins' situation). They receive a single salary for the work they do, and since they aren't doing the work of two teachers, they don't get double the pay. While they collaborate, they complete one job together, not the equivalent of two separate roles.

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago edited 1d ago

They are doing the work of two people.

Because they're two people. And they're both working.

I'm sure you can count.

I'll accept your idea, when one of them can stay home.

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u/Conscious-Eye5903 1d ago

Ok, so what if the school decided they can pay a second salary, but the twins have to work in separate classrooms? Would this be a fair compromise?

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u/Mike_Kermin 1d ago

Nah, I'm done.

You guys have something wrong with you.

but the twins have to work in separate classrooms? Would this be a fair compromise?

Something wrong in your brain, to post that. Imagine being that hateful, towards conjoined twins.

Yeah yeah, you win the thread, good job you.

I can't argue against that. Just, don't be conjoined, why didn't they ever think of that? I see it your way now mate.

Sort yourself out. Sick in the head.