The best deal is the one where everyone still wants to work with you after the deal is done. Not necessarily that everyone gets everything they want, but they're still willing to develop the relationship.
Yeah Trump’s book is about how to burnish your ego and feel like you’re winning whether or not you actually are. A better metric is how to establish long term mutually beneficial relationships with others so that you create an entire self sustaining ecosystem around you. Trump knows nothing about that.
Nah. Trump is not different, the people backing him are just way more organized. They were not subtle about any of this. Anyone who believed he wouldn't do the things he and his people literally said they wanted to do, is willfully ignorant. People like this are not trustworthy. All it will take is a slightly better lie to get them to turn on us again. Admitting you were wrong about something so obvious doesn't deserve praise.
Trump 1.0 was forced into surrounding himself with more typical NeoLib Republicans who kept their same usual trajectory of just mildly fucking Americans and the budget without making too much of a splash.
Trump 2.0 is embracing the more radicals who openly want to tear America down and rebuild it into a white nationalist Oligarchy.
An alternative argument i have heard is that the evangelical Christian groups are championing this because they think destabilizing America will bring about Armageddon, and as such will bring about the 2nd coming of Christ.
You know, because playing chicken with God works out so well historically ( if you believe the Bible they say they follow, but have never read).
In addition, that adds clarity as to why there is such support for Israel.
The prevailing belief is that Jerusalem will be the new kingdom, so protecting that by any monstrous means necessary is actually being supportive of God, and not in any way against Jesus' teachings.
Most of the Evangelicals are not that into the weeds of their religion. When interviewed, most understood Trump wasn't really religious, and they weren't saying they wanted Armageddon. The most common answer of why they voted for him is because they felt he was protecting them. Not that any of that statement is true, but that they think he is protecting them and they think they are being persecuted.
It's pretty easy to spin geopolitical interests to the typical voter without some deeper religious lore. America largely supports Israel because we have since the Cold War, and Democrats in general also support Israel. Only on the fringes do we see the opposite because the farther left supports Palestine for leftist reasons, while parts of the extreme right supports Palestine because they hate Jews more than they hate Arabs. Seeing blue haired liberal college students protesting for Palestine probably hardens the typical Evangelical's support for Israel more than than some obscure reason of Jerusalem becoming the New Kingdom. It's just "Woke student protesting for Palestine. Woke = bad. Israel must be good".
Yeah, he's not admitting we were right by the way. He's just saying trump 2.0 is different,,, but he couldn't figure it out ahead of time,,, but he's also a "man of honor".
And trump 2.0 is like a revamped version of Trump? If anything is just Trump knowing full well that he either dies in office or stays in office until dying. Democracy is not longer an option for him.
A quick web search reveals that "Trump 2.0" refers specifically to his second term, not to a new and different version of Trump or changes in his behavior. Trump 2.0 could've turned out much the same as Trump 1.0, but people like OOP are now learning that it is not.
ya, 2.4 million views, it wasn't going away! Its interesting he's addressing it publicly they must be getting a lot of calls over at geiger, trying to calm some nerves maybe!
I’m not giving the guy any points for stating a fact. Trump said he’d do a 20% universal tariff during his campaign, and this guy called liberals stupid for believing it. Now, he gets up to speed about half a year later, calls himself a man of honor, doesn’t apologize for his mistake, and I’m supposed to say that’s ok?
None of that has anything to do with what I said. I'm just responding to your comment claiming he wouldn't admit to being wrong if there wasn't a "record"
Right... I said it's not fair... To say he wouldn't admit to being wrong without a record... Because the other option still existed (just ignore it / delete it). Someone still should get credit for choosing to admit to being wrong
Normally, I’d agree with your last sentence, but I’m not giving any of these people (people who dismissed what Trump said he will do as an exaggeration, joke or hoax—and insulted anyone who believed them) any credit. Feel free to give them any credit you think they deserve.
So there's ZERO difference between a person who says it won't happen and then admits they were wrong, versus a person who just downright refuses to admit they were wrong about it? Who just deletes the tweet and pretends it didn't happen? Who tries to twist it into still being true? The one who admits they're wrong gets ZERO credit for that?
He was debating it, that’s why he had to say it out loud. Part of him wanted to delete it, but then he had to remind himself of who he was and wants to be. I don’t think this is about humble bragging, I think this is about fighting the natural instinct to save face
I am a man who will fight for your honor
I'll be the hero you're dreaming of
We'll live forever knowing together
That we did it all for the glory of love
Honestly, I hate the way that some guys can only admit to shortcomings by twisting it into a kind of meta self-compliment. I knew a guy who would refer to cheating on his spouse by saying “I’m a big enough man to admit that I made a mistake.”
I always thought there was something deeply pathetic about how he could only possibly acknowledge betraying his wife if he could transform it into an opportunity to mention how honest and self-knowledgeable he was. Embarrassing.
I'd agree. In a world where a Politician will say one thing on live TV or in a tweet, and literally the next day, scream about how they didn't say that; the ability to admit he said something that was wrong, AND HE LEARNED FROM IT is huge. I sincerely hope more people follow this example. Even if I don't necessarily agree with him on anything else.
Why? The trump supporters premise is that he was wrong about trump honoring his word, ppl who support trump don't even believe him.
It's a damning indictment, he was wrong about trump being honest, with his support for trump built on the premise that Trump's just lying to the rest of us.
Dude can be a Maoist Tankie or the most inbred MAGA hillbilly, but if someone’s got the growth to realize that they were wrong before, and admitting it, its golden in my book.
Should be the standard for adults in anything beyond politics, but unfortunately its become an exception.
I’ll give him props too because I really think we should have more of a culture of this thing in the USA. Admit it when you were wrong and learn from your mistakes.
It’s crazy the proportion of people who would rather chose to “save face” by denying, deflecting, or doubling down and ironically make themselves look worse than open themselves up to vulnerability and admit they’re wrong (which ironically would save more face).
So I agree, even if humble brag, the world’s lacking so much of people who own up to mistakes.
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u/stereoroid 1d ago
Admitting he was wrong counts for something, though.