r/classicwow Feb 08 '25

Humor / Meme The real question

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u/Horkosthegreat Feb 08 '25

Do you think there are lions in England, Czech Republic, or Belgium? Yet all of them have lions in their coat of arms, symbols etc. This is exact logic they made Stormwind a lion =)

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u/Batmanbacon Feb 08 '25

No, but there used to be lions in southern europe and northern africa during roman times. The closest lion to Stormwind is over the ocean in Kalimdor - so it's like the Czech coat of arms was a llama

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u/Shaeress Feb 08 '25

The lion is also a symbol of the kingdom of Sweden. It's in the royal coat of arms and the capitol is absolutely littered with lions in various forms everywhere. But the first lion in Sweden was probably in 1771 when one was gifted to the king. It died shortly after, but I still displayed at Gripsholm's Castle (you should look that one up, actually). But Sweden has a lot of lion heraldry from hundreds of years before then. Heraldry can cross continents for sure.

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u/MetzgerWilli Feb 09 '25

It died shortly after, but I still displayed at Gripsholm's Castle (you should look that one up, actually).

Motherfucker...

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u/Excelneedsanupdate Feb 09 '25

Haha shits wild looking right!?

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u/Montegomerylol Feb 08 '25

Heraldry/images/icons cross continents when people cross continents. That's why there are no llamas in European heraldry, and why there shouldn't be lions in Stormwind's. Lions in Azeroth are as far from Stormwind as llamas are from medieval Sweden.

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u/jpkoushel Feb 09 '25

There are elves in the Eastern Kingdoms that could have passed on the cultural memory of lions

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u/Lille7 Feb 09 '25

Elves and trolls had empires before the sundering. Both of those are found in the eastern kingdoms.

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u/Bananern Feb 09 '25

The land that is modern day Sweden was filled with sabertooth tigers back when those were around :)

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u/zanoty1 Feb 09 '25

Sweden would have been glacial during the ice age not sustaining life like saber-tooths or humans.

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u/Lunai5444 Feb 09 '25

Hillsbrad has Lions and is an historic human key area.

Not sure but maybe they hunted them till there were none left

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u/Horkosthegreat Feb 08 '25

historically, lions were in souther europe about 2-3 thousands years ago, with best guesses. So waaaaaaaaay before to have any impect in history of England etc.

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u/Batmanbacon Feb 08 '25

Sure, but the ones in north Africa went extinct not even 100 years ago. As opposed to no lions seen on the continent for 10 000 years

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u/Nishnig_Jones Feb 08 '25

How far back do you think the history of England and the United Kingdoms extends?

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u/FizzleFuzzle Feb 09 '25

They might have picked up the iconary from the Roman’s

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u/Nishnig_Jones Feb 09 '25

Definitely one possibility but far from the only one.

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u/NoAsk8944 Feb 11 '25

Back in my day there was no ocean, just one big landmass around a tree... then the demons came...

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u/blaerel Feb 12 '25

There are lions in Alterac(Eastern Kingdom)

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u/Ok_Money_3140 Feb 08 '25

Problem is, the people of Stormwind have never been to the deserts of Kalimdor until Warcraft 3. They didn't even know they existed.

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u/falln09 Feb 09 '25

Weren't there lions with names in twilight highlands? I know we got to see them in cata but I'm sure the kingdoms had access to the areas before us?

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u/UndeadMurky Feb 09 '25

Not cannon in classic

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u/Elpsyth Feb 09 '25

Lions in hillsbrad. Argument invalid..

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u/Ok_Money_3140 Feb 09 '25

Those are mountain lions. They have no mane. Argument invalid.

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u/Elpsyth Feb 09 '25

Look up sambas in hillsbrad. Argument invalid.

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u/ChristianLW3 Feb 08 '25

Thanks to the Romans all of those Europeans knew about the existence of lions with manes

The people of storm wind did not hear about lions until vanilla wow

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u/Derlino Feb 09 '25

Hell, there's a lion in Norway's coat of arms. Lived here my whole life, never seen anything close to a lion. The only native cats we have are lynxes, and they're quite different from lions.

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u/Glorfendail Feb 09 '25

There are dragons in Wales though! So watch your step!

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u/Haunt_Fox Feb 09 '25

There used to be lions in England. The Romans extincted the European lion.

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u/-Twin-Vader- Feb 09 '25

If the Romans wiped out the European lions, then that means there has never been lions in England.

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u/Haunt_Fox Feb 09 '25

European lion is simply the term for that variety of lion. But it did exist in England. So did bears and wolves. Every carnivore larger than foxes were genocided, and they tried to do it to foxes, too.