r/duncantrussell • u/SpecificFigure9361 • 5d ago

Duncan Slamming Tesla Protests But Never Talks About Elon's Actions?

He's saying how stupid the protests are, but isn't going to address the jobs Elon ended? And the salute? People can be angry at him for understandable reasons. I just don't think he's ever going to talk negative about that side anymore... But this doesn't fit him, I just wonder what he really believes in his heart. I really thought he'd at least talk about the deportations without due process, and the sieg heils.

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u/very_ok 5d ago edited 5d ago

With everything going on in the country right now, this is what he chooses to focus on? It’s wild to think about the insightful, funny, and sharp commentary Duncan from ten years ago would’ve had on the whole Trump/MAGA circus—compared to the lukewarm, performative outrage he now directs at “liberals,” just to keep papa Rogan happy. He’s slowly making himself irrelevant—alienating his real fan base, while the overlap between hardcore MAGA types and people who actually appreciate Duncan’s brand of comedy is virtually nonexistent.

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u/AdOk3484 5d ago

PAPA ROGAN HAHAHAHAHA

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u/dajotman 4d ago

The Rogan money teet has terms for suckling.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Maybe he focuses on Liberals because Liberals have lost their way and now they've lost the moral high ground by throwing temper tantrums and vandalizing shit. Also, you sound like my narcissistic piece of shit ex. "No one's ever going to love you the way we do, Duncan, you're too weird for anyone else to love you, so you better shape up and start talking how we want you to talk."

You need to go to therapy.

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u/Geist_Lain 5d ago

Liberals have less morality than far right racists and misogynists? Vandalism is comparable to sending innocent legal immigrants to slave labor camps without due process? 

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u/machineelveshead 5d ago

Well the difference is your average republican isn't driving around in a truck rounding up illegals and bringing them to jail. And racism can happen on both sides as well as vandalism. And really your just trying to deflect the subject and be like you guys do this so we can do this. The argument actually makes no sense. I had a mean teacher in 3rd grade so no I'm justified to egg and smear shit all over their house and car? Just because the news says some shit that makes liberals upset doesn't give them the right to throw tantrums and vandalize peoples property.

Also all he was saying were the people buying the teslas may have had good intentions like having a better car for the environment. Obv Tesla has one of the top electric cars and it was made by many talented engineers not just Elon musk. He's just one of the faces of the company. Is everyone going to stop taking medicine or buying gas because of how corrupt those industries are? The people outraged by slave labor are the same ones buying product from Nike Walmart and Amazon so they have no problem supporting what's bassicly products manufactured from slave labor over sees. The news says focus on this and be outraged by that and yall gobble it up.

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u/dyllionaire77 5d ago

Agreed. But there’s no talking sense or nuance with these folks. They’re on another outrage trip and they must take Duncan down to their misery. Most of these posts hating Duncan are started with some assumption that’s taken as 100% truth and then it devolves into pure narrative as the upvotes rise and their pure assumption is validated only by hive mind.

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u/machineelveshead 4d ago

I know, I think i maybe upset some people saying that but all I can say to that is if what I said upset you than maybe, just maybe there's a little bit of truth in what I'm saying. It's always easy to point fingers at others shortcomings but when you gotta look at your own people tend to have a million different reasons or justifications for why they are saying or acting the way they are. I've been clean from fetanyl over 5 years and one of the biggest issues I had to overcome was justifying my using. Like oh I need it so I can function and be there for my friends, family, partner, work oh I need it because without it I get REALLY sick and no one wants to be around me like that and me and me and me. It was always about me even if I used the guise of others sometimes. No one wanted to be around me sick or high I just wanted to find a reason to justify getting high. It was a difficult time in my life and by divine grace, friends, family, community, setting goals and taking a very hard personal account of myself I realized just how much our egos will protect us from are judgments by projecting it onto others. I've found people I didn't like or judged to fast was usually me projecting and when I had a conversation with the person I judged we end up best friends and have a lot more in common than id of previously thought. End point. I don't think Duncan is out here trying to spread any hate, negative energy or mis information. I think he's sharing his opinion, like everyone does on here and In life. The difference is he has a bigger platform and reaches more people. And people change so how can you get upset someone is not the same person they were 10 years ago. If you vibes with him 10 years ago and now you don't than that's OK but using him as a target to direct your own negative feelings is not.

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u/dyllionaire77 4d ago

Well said. Congrats on your recovery :) I’ve also been in recovery for 10 years from H, so I understand all too well the games we play to justify our addiction. For years I listened to everyone tell me I had a disease it wasn’t a choice but the day I took accountability for my daily choices to use was the day I finally started my new life of empowering myself and my recovery. Getting clean from such a powerful addiction ends up arming you with such beautiful wisdom that can be applied to all things. God speed

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u/machineelveshead 4d ago

Thanks mate! Wow 10 years that's awesome, your doing great.

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u/dyllionaire77 3d ago

You are too! Every day is a huge success. It hasn’t been all ups but even the downs are opportunities to learn about yourself. Also it’s so funny to me that ppl would downvote these last comments. Just shows how miserable some ppl are lol. “To thine own self be true” much love

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Don't put words in my mouth. And ya know what? Chemically castrating children who are confused because their parents didn't let them play with Barbies is pretty fucking evil.

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u/LWIAY99 5d ago

Me when the economy is collapsing but I must keep fear mongering about trans youth Healthcare

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u/Geist_Lain 5d ago

Yeah, that's why HRT isn't prescribed to trans youth until they're 16 years of age. Have you ever read the WPATH standards and guidelines or, you know, any modicum of research beyond listening to talking points from people who think that transgender people shouldn't be teachers or daycare workers?  And, furthermore, I literally repeated your line about "liberals have lost the moral high ground". 

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Before you make any more assumptions, I am a Liberal, and I'm also genderfluid.

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u/Geist_Lain 5d ago

It's almost as if your attributes have no bearing on the quality of your arguments. 

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u/Geist_Lain 5d ago

It's almost as if your attributes have no bearing on the quality of your arguments. 

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Or it could be that I'm speaking from a place of experience as a lifelong member of the Liberal party and the trans community.

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u/LWIAY99 5d ago

Lmaoooo

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u/whoasir 5d ago

You can laugh if you want to but yes, my entire life I've felt more masculine than feminine. I grew up in a very dangerous environment so I was forced to be independent, sharp, and alert. I grew up an orphan, surrounded by people who were supposed to be my 'family.' When I took Queer Literature in college I discovered the concept of a Two-Spirit person, and everything clicked. That's how I've always felt. Like two people, male and female, trapped in one body, and because I was always being abused, the male had to always step up and protect us, and then the female half would try and calm us down and keep us from losing our cool. So yeah, I understand the concept of they/them. It's probably why my nicknames have always been masculine, Chuckie, Red, Charlie, CJ. I looked up my natal chart and found out my masculine and feminine aspects are balanced, an even 5/5 split. Made perfect sense. I'm also able to be very pretty though, and that's something I embrace as well, but it only happens when I feel safe and loved and appreciated for my femininity. I love being able to embrace my feminine side, and it's actually something I'm working on right now in order to help my body heal through somatic therapy.

So, yes, I am genderfluid and speaking from a place of lifelong experience in the trans community.

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u/NeverOnTheFirstDate 5d ago

This has big "As a black man..." energy.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

I don't think the word literally means what you think it's means. And 16 is still a child.

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u/Geist_Lain 5d ago

"Liberals have lost their way and now they've lost the moral high ground." That is a L i t e r a l quote.

16 also just happens to be the age at which a minor can earn a driving license. Why is it that we allow these people to operate a vehicle that can instantly kill others and destroy hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of infrastructure on a whim, but they shouldn't be allowed to have agency over their own endocrine system? 

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Considering how dangerous it is for teenagers to drive, maybe they shouldn't.

And you didn't "literally" repeat it. You said that I was equating vandalism to misogyny and deporting legal immigrants.

This conversation's over. It's pretty obvious that nothing of value will come from it. You have a blessed day.

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u/tvrdi 5d ago

maga asshat

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u/whoasir 5d ago

I voted for Kamala.

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u/tvrdi 5d ago

sure you did buddy, sure you did.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

I was shocked that she didn't get elected. My friend told me that Port Angeles in Washington has accurately predicted every election since Reagan and when I went there, there were Harris posters everywhere. I was 700% sure she was going to win. I did tarot readings about the election, and I assumed that since Kamala's card that pulled my attention the most was the 10 of Cups, which is essentially the Happily Ever After card, that she would win the election and usher in a new era of female leaders. So yeah, I was pretty damn surprised when I woke up and Trump was the president. I have faith in God's plan though, so I'm keeping a clear head and not being reactionary.

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u/Parfait-Tiny 5d ago

Again with the imaginary problems?

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u/very_ok 5d ago edited 5d ago

That’s a pretty extreme reaction to a critique of a public figure’s shift in tone.

As for your claim that he focuses on liberals because “liberals have lost the moral high ground”—let’s be real. If you’re measuring morality by tantrums and vandalism, but turning a blind eye to literally kidnapping innocent people under false pretenses and shipping them to El Salvador to be jailed indefinitely without charges, you’ve got a warped moral compass. That’s not just unethical—it’s inhumane.

And your comparison to your ex? That’s a huge stretch. Criticizing Duncan for alienating his longtime fan base isn’t emotional abuse—it’s commentary. Maybe I’m wrong and he’ll carve out a niche among people interested in big picture questions about the mind, the universe, psychedelics, love, enlightenment who also prefer lukewarm, performative outrage at “woke” culture over the sharp, weird, funny, empathetic, insightful voice that spoke truth to power and drew so many of us in to begin with. We’ll see where he is in 10 years. If I’m wrong, I’ll own it.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

You wrestle with pigs, you get dirty.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Have you ever thought that maybe, just fucking maybe, that Duncan is part of what I like to call Project Mayhem, where you lure Conservatives in by talking about things they like and relate to, things you can also get behind, like electric cars, then you hit 'em with the psychedelics? People chill out, we start having good discussions, compromising, collaborating, figure out what's really driving everyone's fears, share the science, and then come out of the experience as a united nation, maybe?

Someone starts listening to Duncan because they really like Elon Musk and now all of a sudden they're checking Duncan out and being exposed to things like The Midnight Gospel, which was probably the single most transformative piece of media that I've ever consumed in my entire life. I found God because of Duncan Trussell. After being a lifelong atheist. I never would have checked out Hermeticism if it wasn't for TMG.

Once you understand the duality of God, you understand that you need to enjoy the ride, and that all things serve God, even Donald Trump. Nothing unites a workforce faster than a shitty boss.

And I said what I said about my narcissistic ex because that's how what you said triggered me. It does feel like you're essentially telling Duncan that he's only loveable to a certain niche group, when really, Duncan is stuffed full of universal truths that make him loveable to anyone. Celebrities are people, Duncan is a person, and I want him to know that he is universally loveable and that the power of his voice, his vibration, is important, loved, and very much needed in this world.

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u/NeverOnTheFirstDate 5d ago

No, I think that it's more likely that Duncan has been sucked through the all-too-familiar "crunchy-to-rightwing" pipeline.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Ohhhhh, my boy. If only you knew. 🤣

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u/very_ok 5d ago

I completely agree with you about the transformative impact Duncan has had on so many people’s lives—that’s exactly why so many of us are confused about where he stands now. I just don’t buy the idea that parroting right-wing talking points, while staying silent on the very real destruction MAGA is causing, is some strategic move to win over that crowd so he can teach them empathy and insight.

Right or wrong, this is about integrity—something that matters for everyone, but especially for people with a platform. You can agree or disagree with Bill Burr’s views, but he has integrity. Duncan hitched his wagon to Rogan and seems afraid to push back. But he has a strong, loyal fan base that would only grow if he stayed true to the person and the values he made us believe were genuine.

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u/loginmoveup 3d ago

This is it in a nutshell. It's about his lack of integrity recently. This isn't "outrage" or any of the other extreme adjectives the maga-adjacent crowd is applying to people's disappointment in Duncan.

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u/whoasir 5d ago edited 5d ago

I'm watching the episode right now, I'm 12 minutes in, and so far he's promoted mushrooms and they're talking about using history and blending it with art to create mythology and promote spiritual alchemy. Sounds like Duncan to me.

I watched the little clip you posted and I 100% agree with Duncan. Who do you think those electric cars belong to!? Other fucking Liberals! I'm a Liberal, would I buy a Tesla if I could afford it? Yup! Because it's better for the environment. My Dad is a Conservative, he loves Elon Musk, and he can actually afford to buy a Tesla, but would he? Nope, because he can't work on it himself because it's proprietary. Most Conservatives either can't afford a Tesla, or they wouldn't because they can't work on them. That's why Conservatives think it's so funny! Liberals are going around spray painting dicks and swastikas on each others' cars because organized vandalism isn't one of our fucking strong suits. Which is good. That's why I'm a Liberal. Well, apparently more Centrist now, but I'm 40 now, so I'm fine with that.

I wouldn't spray paint someone else's car, so yes, I will criticize the idea that it's something that should be tolerated or even encouraged in the name of...what? Resistance? Spray painting dicks on cars, really? We can do better than that. Stay sharp, get organized, keep the faith. Project Mayhem.

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u/hazpatt 4d ago

While this isn’t exactly relevant to your comment, I just wanted to add that teslas aren’t actually as good for the environment as people think. Sure they don’t produce emissions, but it’s better to use your current car until it properly dies than to get a brand new Tesla due to the resources that go into manufacturing a new car in general. The idea being that we should use what we have instead of adding to the demand of new products. Then you need to consider that EV’s have a crazy amount of copper that go into them plus the rare earth elements (REE) that are used eg lithium for the battery. Processing REE’s also use a lot of water. So swapping to an EV straight away and adding to the demand of new cars doesn’t help anyone but the profit of the mining company producing those resources

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u/whoasir 4d ago

Well, to be fair, that was the narrative sold to us, that electric vehicles would be better for the environment.

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u/TheMorninGlory 5d ago

I agree :) this was a great vintage-Duncan podcast.

Some people like to get outraged when people disagree with their ideology I've learnt. Sometimes I get in the trenches like you have here, but today I just wanted to comment to say I agree with you so you know you're not alone.

There's a reason people like you and Duncan who used to be liberal/centrist are being pushed right.

The internet amplifies negative sentiment, cuz bitter people come here to whine while happy people are just living their lives.

It'll sort itself out :)

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u/whoasir 5d ago

Thank you, my love! I very much appreciate it! I don't get in the trenches often, but I've been having an excellent week, it's the Sabbath, and I'm feeling inspired. Your comment alone has been an oasis in the desert. ❤️

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u/TheMorninGlory 5d ago

Glad to help :D that's the whole reason FOR getting in the trenches every now and then IMO: to let others like us know not everyone is as angry as some comments would make it seem, else I fear this sub could turn into a hate-boner circle-jerk like r/jre has become lol

I hope you withstand the negativity of conflict well :)

And remember, love wins.

🖖❤️🖖❤️🖖

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u/whoasir 4d ago

I pulled an Annihilation of Joy about a decade ago, became overwhelmed by existential dread and cut out my own tongue, so to speak, for many years. I'm just now getting back to dipping my piggies in the shallow end. I check in with God very frequently and I let my intuition guide me. And when I get thirsty God sends me a little drink of something nice, like yourself, and then I go soak up some sunshine for a while, listen to the Hymn of the Cherubim, that way I don't get all riled up and send out a bunch of negative energy.

Speaking of JRE, I'd love to see Ky Dickens on Duncan's podcast. They could go DEEP down the rabbit hole.

Thank you again, and Godspeed. 👽❤️🍍

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u/dyllionaire77 4d ago

I like this comment. I might not fully agree but I also try to not stay so firm in my beliefs bc I’m open minded and I’m not confidently committed to every stance I have bc they’ve changed plenty over the years. But I just enjoyed reading it. I also think this sub has gotten out of hand like many other subs that have been hijacked by outrage and haters who think everyone must cater to their every belief. I saw a post recently basically saying “we made you famous Duncan so now you owe it to us to join our side and do as we say”. The whole time this sub has been crashing I’ve been trying to warn that pushing Duncan away and hating him like this is only gonna push him further away from your side. Look what happened to Rogan, we must remember that Rogan was mostly left until the left pushed him away for daring to question the Covid bullshit. Now the only person Duncan will relate to is Rogan bc the dumb lefties with no self awareness and no tolerance for others who don’t follow their rules have pushed him away and cast him out. So in a couple years of this keeps up don’t be surprised when Duncan is full blown right wing. And we can all come back to this moment when the Reddit left, unaware of their own behaviors and unaware of their own brainwashing, cast him out. It’s what the left does best and although I would consider myself a lifelong leftist on paper, I’ve been so disgusted by their behavior that I too have abandoned the current left. Ok I’m ranting now but I feel you.

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u/FiddyFo 3d ago

You're wrong about Rogan ever having been mostly left. When I got into his show in 2011 he was Libertarian and still is. (But he also will say things that are in alignment with both left and right positions). That's why it's stupid to listen to him talk about politics.

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u/dyllionaire77 3d ago

Libertarianism used to agree with leftist ideals when it comes to social justice and personal freedoms and conservative approach when it comes to economical issues. Which imo is a logical way to go. He was always very understanding of leftist causes. But then everything went weird and upside down and now nobody knows what’s real, nobody knows what’s happening, cannot trust anything we’re told, cannot differentiate truth from lies. So now we’re all fucked. I think it’s all a psyop, demoralization, disorientation, destabilization, crisis, normalization. Intended to keep us all wriled up and confused, not knowing which way is up or down, being so engulfed in chaos that we don’t know the first step in fighting it.

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u/FiddyFo 3d ago

For sure, like personal freedom. Civil liberties. Anti-war. Rogan always like to claim that liberals have moved more left...Besides trans & pronoun stuff, what have liberals moved more left on? And do you think that those issues, that affect such a small amount of the population, are worth turning more right? This is why I say he's never been 'mostly left'. He's a Libertarian that has slowly gone more right, while claiming the left is the one that has moved. And if you think 'the right' hasn't moved more right? Boy are you in for a revelation.

As for the rest of what you said, it's general speculation. And honestly, not interesting.

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u/dyllionaire77 3d ago

Those who dismiss very real social engineering psyops as uninteresting speculation are the perfect victims for it✌️

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u/FiddyFo 3d ago edited 3d ago

It's uninteresting specifically bc we were talking about something completely different. Context matters, sorry.

And I like how you ignored the entire first half of my reply, and you edited your original comment to add things after I responded. That's weird and not in good faith. So I'm done.

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u/whoasir 4d ago

Thank you! I consider myself to be a more of a Centrist now. I'm 40, so it feels appropriate.

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u/azurite_rain 5d ago

You should familiarize yourself with the term "projection".

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u/whoasir 5d ago

I'm well-versed with it. And with narcissistic abuse. I also understand the effects of someone being constantly criticized and told that they need to confirm to what people want them to say, instead of speaking their truth as they see it.

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u/whoasir 5d ago

And I'm in therapy, at least twice a week.

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u/dben89x 4d ago

Why is this so bad to focus on? It's one of the things going on in the world. And while it may not be the most important, it's one of the most interesting, and deserves analysis. I personally think destroying people's property completely unconnected to the thing you're protesting is extremely dumb, counterproductive, and straight up criminal. He's simply illustrating that point via valid criticism, and all anyone here can do is criticize his criticism for being right leaning. Old Duncan would tell you to shut the fuck up about your polar tribalism and criticize things based on reason rather than which group you identify with. 

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u/very_ok 4d ago

I don’t think most people here are defending property destruction—we can all agree that it’s counterproductive and often wrong. The issue isn’t that Duncan criticizes it; it’s what he chooses to criticize consistently and what he avoids entirely. It’s hard not to notice that every time he dips into politics, it somehow always aligns with Rogan’s worldview, while glaring silence surrounds far more dangerous, destructive behavior from the other side.

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u/dben89x 4d ago

I guess I just don't understand why simply not mentioning certain things automatically means he aligns with those things. Seems to me like a lot of people in this sub are treating him like a prophet that MUST have the talking points they expected him to have, and if he doesn't, he's not doing his holy job of fixing the world. He's just a guy. If you don't agree with something he's saying, fine. Disagree with him. But don't put imaginary opinions into his conversation simply because you think he's intentionally neglecting to mention his "true" feelings. I find this trend of having to be "all in" or "all out" with no room for middle ground to be so weird. 

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u/very_ok 4d ago

There is no middle ground with Trump and MAGA. You are pro fascist or you are not. Easy. Simple.

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u/dben89x 4d ago

I think that's a really dumb and short sighted perspective. 

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u/very_ok 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yea, well look around and wake up. You are pro rule of law or you are not. You are pro constitution or you are not. You are pro illegal deportations or you are not. You are pro checks and balances or you are not. Where is the middle ground I’m missing here? Enlighten me please. We’re not debating the subtleties of fiscal policy.

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u/dben89x 4d ago

You're looking at the world and everyone in it in terms of black and white. Like you MUST be all these things at once, and if you have ONE opinion that aligns with the conservative party, you're immediately part of the MAGA crowd, and you immediately adopt all the far right opinions as well. Tell me, when has Duncan ever supported these deportations? You're just assigning opinions to people and labeling them into their own nice little boxes to make it easier on yourself so you can point at a group of nicely packaged people and say "Them. They're the ones we can hate". Us vs them mentality never works. 

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u/very_ok 4d ago edited 4d ago

I’m not looking at the world in terms of black and white. I’m looking at those specific things I mentioned in terms of black and white. And I’m disheartened our country is quite literally being destroyed in front of our eyes at the hands of Trump and Elon and Vance and Thiel and project 2025 and congress and the Supreme Court. You are right, though. It’s not on Duncan ever have to say a single word against any of this. And if he wants to wade into a little right wing lite at this moment in history, I should have never expected any better of him.

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u/dben89x 4d ago

Calling out ridiculous things the left does doesn't make you right wing. It just makes you critical of stupid human behavior. He calls out plenty of right wing bull shit too. 

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