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u/sumemodude Died of Ligma 8d ago

$500 console, $80 games, and $20-$30 add ons to make preowned games "compatible". We are cooked

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u/Flipercat 8d ago edited 8d ago

Nintendo should absolutely get criticized for their pricing, but please use the actual numbers/facts:

The console is $450, or $500 for the console + mario kart world.

The $80 seems to only be for their biggest games, so I presume Mario kart, Zelda, Mario, etc. Their smaller games will probably be $60-$70.

You can absolutely play your switch games on the more powerful system for free. The paid things are basically DLC (for example: a new world in Kirby and the Forgotten Land) (except BoTW and ToTK, the extra feature more or less useless and adds no extra content)

Edit: Apparently the prices I listed were only for digital games, and physical ones will cost an extra $10. My bad.

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u/JackTurnner 8d ago

Wait, so performance boosts arent payed? Only like dlcs and stuff and addons to what the switch 2 does?

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u/MisterRai 8d ago

From what I understand, upgrades that are purely performance enhancements like with Pokemon are free. The paid ones are upgrades that add new features like with Super Mario

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u/platypodus 8d ago

Next console generation you'll have to pay for patches.

"Hey, did you beat Super Metroid 17, yet?"

  • "Nah, man, I'm saving up for the patch, I'm still on the 1.02 version, I got the wall bug, that makes progress impossible. They only fixed it in the 1.11 release."

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u/Pure_Spyder 8d ago

Maybe i read this wrong, does this mean I have to pay for dlc again? Or you mean like if it's adding something totally new?

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u/MisterRai 8d ago

I'm pretty sure no. It basically just enhances the game you already have. If they do remove your DLCs, that's gonna be a huge problem

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u/Flipercat 8d ago

I think that for the games without a Switch 2 Edition, you will get higher definition/frame rate (as long as they support it). Keep in mind that I have no direct source for this formation, just what I understood from the direct.

For games with a Switch 2 Edition, I don't know. ToTK for example will be less laggy on the Switch 2, but I don't know about getting higher definition/fps for free.

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u/JackTurnner 8d ago

I don't really mean higher definitions and stuff. But when I heard about the pay to upgrade pre owned games, i thought thst meant that you would need to pay for any upgrades the games get by nature of a better hardware

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u/Flipercat 8d ago

That is absolutely free.

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u/JackTurnner 8d ago

Fair enough, the extra 10€ for physical games had me skeptical about most thingd they said

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u/Last-Point3298 8d ago

You need NSO + expansion pack

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u/Flipercat 8d ago

For what? Using the console specs?

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u/Last-Point3298 8d ago

Switch 2 Edition, they're included in the expansion pack, unless they have extra content like Mario Party Jamboree

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u/Flipercat 8d ago

Yes, if you want the extra quality/frame rate, which the commenter I was responding to specifically said wasn't important to them, you need to either buy the Switch 2 Edition or get in for free from an Online membership.

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u/allmond226 8d ago edited 8d ago

I also understand it as you have to pay for the performance boosts too

A thing that points to this fact is these games not showing in this list of free updates:

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/games-with-free-updates/

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u/sarekon 8d ago

It's 470€ so approx $520 WITHOUT mario kart in the EU btw

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u/allmond226 8d ago edited 8d ago

The $80 seems to only be for their biggest games, so I presume Mario kart, Zelda, Mario, etc. Their smaller games will probably be $60-$70.

Stop making excuses for them already, and maybe you should too show the actual numbers if you criticize it.

It's not 80 for their "biggest games" only, it's for some games and it's 90 normally and 80 digitally and it's 80 normally and 70 digitally for others

There is absolutely no indication that there will be full Nintendo games for 60

Edit: I just learned that the $ are apparently 10 cheaper then the € prices so you are actually correct with the prices but not with the big/small games thing

Also a thing to keep in mind retailers normally don't accept cheaper digital version, because it makes them look bad, so maybe if they face problems/backlash from them the digital price could increase

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u/Jealy 8d ago

please use the actual numbers/facts

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seems to be

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I presume

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will probably be

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u/Flipercat 8d ago edited 8d ago

I used some actual numbers and added my speculations and deductions, marked by those expressions. I don't see anything wrong with that.

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u/GredaGerda 8d ago

it's sandwiched in between two points which are not meant to be speculative, so your comment is structured in a way that makes it a major point

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u/NoIsland23 8d ago

Stop glazing bro. Even modern tripple A games don‘t cost more than 70$ on PC. You meanin to tell me that Pokemon Shit X costs more to produce than The Last of Us 2?

„Smaller games 60-70$“ that’s price gouging

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u/HollowThief 8d ago

Beat me to it, thank you for defending my favorite multibillion company <3 I'm going to buy the 90$ dollar "physical" copies that have a download code inside, just to support them!

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u/mister-idiot 8d ago

The physical games costing 10 dollars extra is misinformation, I have not seen a single source from people saying it

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u/Demistr 8d ago

You're asking him to be true to numbers but you're also being disingenuous.

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u/occupy_westeros 8d ago

but please use the actual numbers/facts

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so I presume

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will probably be

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u/SuperSonic486 8d ago edited 8d ago

That last bit of paying for compatability is insanely missleading my guy, there is no paying for compatability, its upgrading a game to its switch 2 version, which isnt needed whatsoever.

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u/kipperzdog 8d ago

It's crazy the spin people are putting on that one.

Sure it would have been awesome to make it free but I don't blame them at all for charging an extra because of development time they had to put into the enhanced graphics. It's also free with Nintendo online+expansion pass (at least for the Zelda games) which I think makes it fair, they've included some dlc in that bundle in the past

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u/sumemodude Died of Ligma 8d ago

It literally isn't? You have to pay to make your regular switch games compatible with the switch 2

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u/SuperSonic486 8d ago

you actively dont, theyre compatible from the start, youre only paying for an update that lets them play in higher resolutions (and framerates too iirc) on the switch 2.

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u/Unhappy_Geologist_94 Meme Stealer 8d ago

I think for pokemon games it might do a difference

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u/Someonevibing1 8d ago

No it’s to make it have the upgrades you can probably play botw and totk on the switch 2 without the cool new stuff

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u/SnooMacaroons6960 8d ago

dont forget you have to pay for the tech demo

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u/Corbel8_ 8d ago

go indie

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u/NeonPatrick 8d ago

In 1996, N64 games cost the equivalent of $180 https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/s/Prkq6EEgKK

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u/cokeknows 8d ago

Don't forget the nearly proprietary SD card that next to no one will have, having to pay for a launch day orientation demo, the fact that you need internet and an account to transfer games and saves between devices and a paid membership to voice chat. The enshitification of nintendo is here.

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u/DrRagnorocktopus 8d ago

It's not proprietary 4head. SD card express has been out since 2018.

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u/NickSchultz 8d ago

What the fuck?! You have to PAY to play pre-owned games?

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u/Sea_Art3391 8d ago

You don't. You can pay to upgrade a few pre-owned games to have better graphics and some switch 2 exclusive functions (the Kirby game also includes a dlc), but otherwise you do not have to pay to play any pre-owned games on the switch 2.

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u/Satherov 8d ago

Some games like botw or totk offer extra stuff for which you can get an addon, but I imagine you can still play the game without those

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u/FriendlyDrummers 8d ago

Barely an add on tbh. But I guess I don't care since it's not necessary to get anyways

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u/dingusfett 8d ago

Kirby and Mario Party are better examples of them being expansions with new content that makes use of the new Switch 2 features

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u/JorgeMtzb 🏴Virus Veteran 🏴 8d ago

No, they are making switch 2 upgraded releases for some games (think ps5 vs ps4 of the same game) if you have the switch 1 version you can pay for just the upgrade rather than buy them. You can play all your switch 1 games for free, you only pay for the specific upgrades that gices new content better framerate etc

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u/Takoyama-san 8d ago

imagine if you upgraded your PC then had to pay per-game to actually use said hardware. holy fuck. "better framerate" should come with the system.

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u/zCourge_iDX 8d ago

Stop spreading misinformation. The upgrade is for added features, not increased performance.

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u/JorgeMtzb 🏴Virus Veteran 🏴 8d ago

Better performance is inherent to more power of the console and sny game will run smoother, the upgrades include software performance updates themselves to use the better hardware more than the game otherwise would

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u/KotKaefer 8d ago

Me When I lie

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u/SuperSonic486 8d ago

Purely for downloaded games from the gamepass iirc.

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u/Flaky_Grand7690 8d ago

Think the switch pro controllers are forward compatible!? 

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u/sumemodude Died of Ligma 8d ago

Gosh I hope so

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u/Lenny4368 8d ago

$90 controllers

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u/sumemodude Died of Ligma 8d ago

Eh nothing new unfortunately

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u/FortNightsAtPeelys 8d ago

$60 online to play old games too

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u/-Cinnay- Nice meme you got there 8d ago

And people actually believe all that misinformation, even though the actual facts are publicly available on their website.

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u/JustMark99 8d ago

The console is $450. And it plays Switch 1 games without needing to upgrade them.

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u/Pamasnack 8d ago

Why do you people always lie to justify being angry. You are NOT paying for"comparability" you are paying for an upgrade. It will still work on the switch 2. You can hate them all you want, but it's just pathetic you can't even be truthful about it

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u/sumemodude Died of Ligma 8d ago

Paying for an upgrade is still straight bullshit

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u/Pamasnack 8d ago

That may be but that's still not what you said. Also it's nothing new Sony also does this and I don't see people being this angry at them

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u/sumemodude Died of Ligma 8d ago

From the video, that's what I thought they were saying. I guess you can still play the games without the upgrade, but regardless, having to pay a ton extra for upgraded graphics is next level robbery

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u/Pamasnack 8d ago

Then next time maybe check you actually know what you're angry about? And again people give a shit now because it's Nintendo, Sony does it too