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Leave them alone🤬🤬🤬

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u/Mughalbadsha12 23h ago

leave the billion dollar corporation alone theyre just a small indie team

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u/Lord_Viktoo 22h ago

Well, look at how Pokemon looks, and you could be fooled. :P

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u/Fearful-Cow 21h ago

small indie teams would at least innovate mechanics over a 30 year period.

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u/corvettee01 21h ago

With Palworld they actually did.

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u/our_potatoes 16h ago

Competition breeds innovation

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u/No-Care6414 7h ago

insert image of the materialisation of the concept of competition ass fucking and cumming inside the equally gay and nerdier materialisation of the concept of innovation

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u/ZantTheMan Lurking Peasant 2h ago

Or you know lawsuits because it's easier so sue our competition then it is to innovate

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u/ShadowNick 23m ago

Hey now that sounds accusatory how bout we don't go slinging that around.

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u/WispererYT 19h ago

while it was fun it was by far one of the most creatively bankrupt games i have ever played

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u/Regulus242 18h ago

They did say that it's not going to be creative but rather what everyone has been asking for that no one would give them.

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u/HorrorPossibility214 14h ago

It absolutely was for a week. There is no content beyond breeding pals and the second you Google anything the game is boring. No story, no interesting fights, everything is level based and the second you are within 5 levels of something you can kill it.

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u/Yeller_imp 14h ago

There definitely is a story, its hidden behind data pads and is still being written as the game develops

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u/HorrorPossibility214 14h ago

Nobody reads the pads.

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u/Yeller_imp 14h ago

....your complaining about no story.... when you wont read the thing that provides the story....

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u/Actual-Abalone4720 14h ago

I havent played the game (yet) but telling a story through long text thingies is a no

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u/Comfortable-Shake-37 12h ago

That's Fromsofts bread and butter

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u/Yeller_imp 14h ago

Doom Eternal had its story behind Codexs, that was never a problem

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u/Destithen 8h ago

Depends on how its done, and how you find those text thingies.

Imagine a game where you explore some military lab that had some sick experiments get loose and you're piecing together what happened from chat logs and such. Or a murder mystery where you're sifting through letters between a serial killer and the victim you're trying to get justice for.

Hell, some of the charm in Fallout is reading those little flavor text logs to flesh out the "why" behind what you find in the dilapidated areas you're exploring.

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u/Artislife_Lifeisart 9h ago

Sooooo, it's Pokemon?

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u/Destithen 8h ago

And yet I'm so thirsty for a drop of new creature catching content that I've put 147 hours into it so far.

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u/Crazyjackson13 18h ago

creatively bankrupt

are you describing Pokémon or Palworld? I feel both are pretty applicable.

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u/WispererYT 18h ago

Palworld.

It is a very blatant ripoff of Ark with slave labour put in.

This isn't the first time nor the last time Pocketpair have made something that rips off something else

oh yea, they also made an AI art game

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u/Tw4tl4r 15h ago

Ark spawning a genre of games doesn't mean that everyone else who makes a game in that style is ripping them off.

May aswell claim that all FPS games are ripping off doom while you are at it.

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u/bddgg 17h ago edited 17h ago

Pocketpair!?! This is one of the most ripoff name a company who makes rips off games can have

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u/WispererYT 17h ago

yea that's what they are called

look at their upcoming game it is called "Never Grave" very blatantly clear that it is a ripoff of Hollow Knight

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u/JCReed97 15h ago

That’s the thing, it doesn’t matter if your game has world class graphics, diversity, originality, innovation, or is made by a great team of people, all that matters is that playing it IS FUN. Seems all these studios are forgetting that part.

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u/WispererYT 13h ago

so when Palworld rips off other games quite blatantly its fine

but when pokemon uses the same, fun, formula that's bad?

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u/Comfortable-Shake-37 12h ago

They made a game like Palworld? or are you saying that the normal pokemon gameplay is fun?

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u/Jediverrilli 10h ago

Normal gameplay is fun if it wasn’t it wouldn’t sell 20M copies every release. People like to dunk on pokemon and there are many reasons to but they are still fun to play for millions of people.

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u/Comfortable-Shake-37 8h ago

It being pokemon helps it sell as well, though especially for kids I bet it being pokemon is more important than gameplay for wanting the games. It being the pokemon brand reallys helps to sell the games.

Though yeah fun is subjective so I'm sure a bunch of people who buy it do find the gameplay fun. Or some parts of it.

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u/Hells_Hawk 11h ago

Law suit in bound.

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u/Various_Slip_4421 21h ago

Eh, it's innovative for pokemon

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u/Robert999220 20h ago

Exactly this. I havent played a pokemon game in 10+ years because theyre ALL the same. I played palworld start to finish and loved every second of it, in my head its the pokemon game we deserved and what fans have been wanting for DECADES. Its just sad that it took an indie company to do it instead of nintendo with its billions.

After nintendo sued them for copying the 'throwing a ball to capture monsters', i said im out, cant support that company any more.

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u/GenuisInDisguise 17h ago

Thats Assasins Creed for me. With their game systems, they could be making Star Wars game of my dreams, or Fantasy or Sci Fi.

Imagine Fantasy game with their crowd systems, animations with added spells, and pistols or whatever.

But no we will keep remaking the same game in 50 different flavours instead.

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u/MasterChildhood437 19h ago

Nah, not everything does.

but Pokemon does.

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u/Last-Performance-435 19h ago

The only issue is that it has basically no artistic merit and is basically a tech demo that exists purely to say 'look at what you could have done with your IP' instead of doing anything interesting. It has no identity other than 'pokemon clone with guns' in the public mind and frankly, the worst mainline pokemon games absolutely style on it in terms of tone, writing, and consistency.

Shit on nintendo all you want, but if you choose to uplift the brain rot, don't be surprised when everything falls to shit.

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u/Jediverrilli 10h ago

It’s not even a ripoff of pokemon. It’s ark with creatures where a lot of them are very similar to pokemon. People keep saying it’s pokemon with guns but it’s not even close.

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u/Last-Performance-435 10h ago

Thats a fault of where it's positioned in the market and the deliberate aesthetic overlap. 

People who are capital G gamers and 'in' on the scene know that. But the average consumer doesn't. Thats not how the public consciousness works. You can try to deny it but you throw balls and cute, furry fuckers with elemental affinity. If you say that and think of anything but Pokemon, the largest and most valuable franchise on earth, you're cracked.

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u/gomicao 17h ago

I hate Palworld for the reasons you mentioned... and you are 100% correct. People hate the truth though.

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u/ZantTheMan Lurking Peasant 2h ago

Palworld is first and foremost a survival game and the game play centers around that has Nintendo ever even made a survival game?

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u/Sketch13 21h ago

to be fair, they have introduced new stuff, the problem is all the new stuff is worse than the old stuff lol. Pixel-era Pokemon was still the best, everything after has been a bit weird and ultra gimmicky.

But it's a game for kids, so what do I know.

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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 21h ago

Black and White 2 just feels like literal perfection having a beloved style, story and there is so much content to do. I wish they would make a proper pixel game again, but that's a fever dream.

I'm personally very fond of ORAS though lmao. I played Black first, but it's the main pokemon game I spent several times more than the others at about ~500 hours. I actually loved Scarlet's gaameplay but I only sunk 120~ and that's several times more than the usual of 30 or so like Shield 💀

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u/AetherDrew43 20h ago

It hurts so much how Gen 5 was considered the literal devil back then...

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u/Every_Recover_1766 14h ago

I absolutely annihilated black 2. If I win the lottery, I’m buying a refurbished 3DS and some cartridges and going to town.

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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 12h ago

I do recommend the DSI XL for the sprite pokemon games lol. It's the perfect ratio + a vibrant dual IPS. They're pretty cozy to hold too compared to my floppy 3DS LL. (N3DSes did fix that though.)

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u/WiTHCKiNG 11h ago edited 11h ago

True, today‘s content in games is 50% slapping PBR materials and reflections on everything so the graphics will help sell it. Sometimes I believe having to be clever with your resources on limited hardware also made people to come up with interesting mechanics and ideas. Many mechanics today are more like good coding practices but from a players perspective more like who asked for this to begin with? Eastern devs still mostly get it but western studios somehow forgot this ancient knowledge over the last 10 years. Just go back and play any rpg from 15 years ago and you can spot and feel the difference in like 15 minutes and see why they are shutting down one after another. It’s the same reason why anime pretty much replaced all tv shows for my generation and the ones afterwards. I can’t name a single tv show that runs in western tv channels.

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u/Dew_Chop 20h ago

The worst mistake I ever made was letting my first pokemon games be white and white 2, it's all been downhill from there

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u/beardicusmaximus8 20h ago

Have you played Pokémon? The zoophilia isn't implied at all lol. Palworld at least leaves it to your imagination. Pokémon gen 4 has a book talking about how people and Pokémon got married. And Gen 1 has the Hypno line. We don't talk about the Hypno line.

And that's just the mainline Pokémon games.

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u/offensiveDick 17h ago

Wasn't there also a hypno kidnapping a kid in the Gen 1 remakes? Maybe that was in a fangame. Not sure

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u/beardicusmaximus8 13h ago

There was a plot line where you have to fight a Hypno over a child but I think Hypno was protecting the kid and you were just meant to think it was a kidnapping.

There is a Drowzie who kidnaps a child in the pokemon mystery dungeon games though

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u/offensiveDick 12h ago

Maybe I mixed it up then or it was from a romhack.

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u/MasterChildhood437 18h ago

Black and White 2 is only beloved because people want to fuck Rosa.

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u/Last-Performance-435 19h ago

Black and White 2 just feels like literal perfection having a beloved style, story and there is so much content to do. I wish they would make a proper pixel game again, but that's a fever dream.

I'm personally very fond of ORAS though lmao. I played Black first, but it's the main pokemon game I spent several times more than the others at about ~500 hours. I actually loved Scarlet's gaameplay but I only  shit.

(certified Gen 5 hater gang)

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u/ZodiacTuga 20h ago

In my opinion X & Y were the last good set of games.

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u/I_MakeCoolKeychains 17h ago

I'm just sick of them introducing cool new mechanics and then removing them in the next game. I never needed z moves or terrastilazation, i wanted to inevitably have mega forms for all of the Pokémon. It just doesn't make sense to carry on this way just watch none of those mechanics i just mentioned will be in the next game

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u/Red_Guru9 6h ago

I genuinely think teras is mechanically the best system they've created post gen 4. However, conceptually mega evolutions were my favorite.

The problem with megas was that competitively it was terrible and pokemon traditionally does not update fast enough to fix the limited pool of viable pokemon.

This is the game where Landorous terrorized competitive for like 3 gens straight and is still meta.

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u/The_Dogelord 20h ago

I mean the new real time battles are kinda of innovative compared to the usual stuff.

Too bad it's technically a spinoff game and it's probably never gonna appear again.

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u/Joltyboiyo 21h ago

Small indie teams would add tiny details that add so much to the game that they wouldn't even need to add and a lot of people wouldn't even notice.

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u/Lamprophonia 19h ago

The pokemon games are just a vehicle to introduce new products. It's like a tech demo but for an entire franchise.

Besides, that lack of innovation hasn't stopped each game from breaking sales records.

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u/Any_Secretary_4925 13h ago

modern indie devs have proved that this isnt true, indie games are nothing but slop now.

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u/thomasp3864 12h ago

Special split, abilities, held items, physical/special split, mega evolution need I go on?

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u/pokeoscar1586 7h ago

Best i can do is constant power creep and crappy gen exclusive mechanics…

Also 2 versions jus because people are stupid enough to keep buying them

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u/sapphoschicken 5h ago

they did that a lot since the beginning of the switch era

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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 20h ago

I'll say this everywhere and anywhere -- If anyone is looking for a better version of a pokemon-style game, play Monster Sanctuary! It is a platform jumper and turn-based monster catching game that involves a whole lot more strategy and team compositions than pokemon!

What I love about Monster Sanctuary is the skill trees involved with each monster, which allows you to play each monster in different ways, AND the order in which moves you use really comes into effect! It is a super fun and strategic-minded game! So much better than pokemon IMO. And its cheap! I bought it on sale for $4.99 a few weeks ago and can't stop playing!