r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/ultralightdude Minnesota 1d ago

Good!  I hope MN joins the party.

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u/DazMR2 1d ago

And Illinois.

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u/pigeonholepundit 1d ago

The Great Khan was already in Mexico this week negotiating on our behalf.

https://www.wcia.com/news/illinois-news/pritzker-signs-trade-agreement-between-illinois-and-mexico/

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u/maddieterrier Tennessee 1d ago

We need more billionaire class traitors.

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u/BedDefiant4950 1d ago

what is there for billionaires to do at the end but short being a billionaire lmao

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u/Brilliantlight0 21h ago

Pretty sure Elon Musk is banking everything on being the first, only, and last trillionaire. Or possibly being assassinated by the NPC who he will posthumously grant his fortune before possibly respawning if that's a thing in this sim.

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u/The_1992 Illinois 1d ago

I’d honestly vote for him for as long as possible as our governor if he keeps it up. He’s wildly exceeded my expectations and is actually a great governor. I feel so relieved to live in Illinois

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u/pigeonholepundit 1d ago

Me too. Hes been great.

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u/Slaughterfest 1d ago

I just came from a Warhammer 40k sub so was surprised to see someone calling Pritzger this name. What's the story lol.

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u/elziion 1d ago

Thank you for the article!

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u/BackfromtheDe3d Minnesota 1d ago

Uh oh. Don’t let the NCR find out

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u/natnguyen 1d ago

As a Chicagoan, I came here to say this. Pritzker already negotiated a side deal with Mexico so honestly it would not surprise me.

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u/mitkase 1d ago

I think it'll work out for Chicago. I'm pretty sure all Republicans think that we've all been shot by gangs, so they won't worry about us.

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u/spoopidoods 1d ago

If you haven't been shot twice by lunchtime you're not a real Chicagoan.

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u/d3northway Iowa 1d ago

I live in IA and "Chicago immigrant" is such a dogwhistle around here like cmon just call them slurs like you want to, don't dance around it.

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u/hokis2k 1d ago

Its kind of nuts because pretty much every economic hub in the us would seek to join California in any change. Texas has been moving left as it gains prosperity.. Florida is the only one that goes right but that is because people are leaving the state and the dumb ones(repubs) stick around.

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u/RedBeardedBud 1d ago

We’ll see how long Floridians hold out without FEMA and social security

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u/hokis2k 1d ago

maybe. they are old fks reliant on social security.. and took for granted all of the things they got from government their whole lives. will be nice for them to see what Americans these days are left without.

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u/muci19 7h ago

Remember farmers got screwed under trump last time and lots of them voted for him again.

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u/palinsafterbirth Massachusetts 1d ago

And MA

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u/Rickbox 1d ago

And New York

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u/DBE113301 New York 1d ago

Yep. By the way, are we witnessing the complete dismantling of the United States? When the dust settles, are we just going to be 50 individual countries in what used to be the United States? As a New Yorker, fine by me. And all the Trump-loving assholes that live on my block can leave this state for a better life elsewhere. It'll be actually worse, but shhhh.

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u/b0w3n New York 1d ago

It's basically balkanization, regions will stratify. The midwest is going to have a very rough time. Most of the blue states don't even really rely on them for food, they ship most of it overseas.

Very very likely West coast becomes a region, New England + NY/NJ becomes a region (potentially with a few of the other blue states on the east coast), then the bible belt with FL becomes a region, and finally basically everything between the rockies and the mississippi becomes a region, excluding texas. I'm not entirely sure where places like Michigan/Minnesota/Illinois will end up, either in their own little mini region or just as sort of a loose "federal" conglomeration with the east/west coast excluding all those shitty red states is what I'm picturing.

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u/nysflyboy 1d ago

NY here too. I can imagine this happening, but I can't imagine it happening without a civil war, at least one like the recent movie. That is some scary shit. I suppose best case (other than something happening that turns this around at a federal level) would be a slow bloodless balkanization of states taking more power from the federal government, and/or ignoring the constitution. I think once you have anything official (treaty, constitutional convention, etc) you are looking at federal intervention/marshal law/civil war.

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u/b0w3n New York 1d ago

Start with the independent trade agreements, progress to "federal revenue escrow" where the economic powerhouse states like ours and CA + New England kind of band together and keep them from getting federal funding via taxes, and just cold civil war them to death.

Can't fight a war without paying your army.

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u/Eagle4317 1d ago

And New England.

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u/DmAc724 1d ago

Yup! Would be great to see the 6 states of New England band together to do this. And throw in NY for good measure.

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u/Snow_source District Of Columbia 1d ago

I feel like PA, MD, NJ and DE would be interested in joining if this all kicks off. Wait until next year and you could get VA in there too once Youngkin leaves office.

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u/boo_jum Washington 1d ago

Pennsylvania seems like it may be a stretch? I know there are deep red parts of the state (and that “Pennsyltucky” is a thing for a reason)

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u/Snow_source District Of Columbia 1d ago

Yeah, it might be tough but they have Shapiro and one chamber in the lege. I think the Pennsyltucky parts of the state would try to secede like what WV did back during the civil war.

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u/boo_jum Washington 1d ago

Fair point.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 1d ago

California is a stretch.

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u/boo_jum Washington 1d ago

California has clout -- both economically (being one of the biggest economies, globally), and agriculturally.

But, California is also not nearly as 'deep blue' as folks think, which could be the point you're making. California has concentrated deep blue pockets, and enough of a population in those places to pull the state blue in federal elections, but it definitely has a lot of deep red places (and some of those places, like Orange County, have a lot of money).

And California gave us Nixon and Reagan, and there are a lot of Californians who aren't actually ashamed of either of those legacies.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 1d ago

It doesn't have that kind of clout.

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u/1of3destinys 1d ago

We Marylanders have a Dem super majority and thousands of federal workers who were laid off. Whatever side deals are made, I hope we're included. 

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u/Fieldexpedient2 1d ago

New England +NY and NJ are close to CA in GDP.

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u/Larovich153 1d ago

I wish, but we have that idiot Ayott for the next year and a half, the Merrimac Valley though would absolutely join you

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u/sarges_12gauge 1d ago

Yeah how did Brexit work out?

Jesus I can’t tell what percentage of people are just emoting out, how many are genuinely stupid, and how many are bad faith actors purposefully trying to spread this shit

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u/ExtremeModerate2024 1d ago

upstate new york might as well be alabama or mississippi.

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u/1of3destinys 1d ago

What's up with the confederate flags in upstate New York? Why don't they move to a state that actually joined the confederacy? 

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u/nysflyboy 1d ago

Has nothing to do with the south, its a dog whistle for racism, nazism, and MAGA now. Most every time I see one on the back of a pickup, there is a "TRUMP" flag on the other side. And usually some punisher stickers and often nazi code stuff like "88" or the Aryan fist sticker.

25 years ago, it was just a "I'm a proud redneck" thing (thank the Dukes of Hazard for that) and might have been mostly innocent. Not anymore.

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u/PaperTigerFolds 1d ago

This might come as a shock (though it really shouldn't) but a lot of America is pretty racist, just more so out of cities.

When PoC moved into urban centers, whites fled to the suburbs and rural areas around them.

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u/nysflyboy 1d ago

I live there. Surrounded by very red farmers on the edge of a small but pretty "blue" city.

I will say, over the past week, a LOT of republicans that I know have started spontaneously complaining and expressing their displeasure and confusion around "whats going on". Many of them are not happy. These are the "traditional republicans" who only voted for Trump (2x) because of "traditional values" or hating mexicans, or because "camel toe" or they actually bought that a "business man" would be good for the US. Not the truly cultish MAGA nazis, which are still flying their flags.

My point being, at least some of them are starting to realize regret. The others are lost cause, but when the less cultish ones get hit in the wallet, they are starting to wake up. Even my mother who is all in on the orange menace, said "well, I didn't know he would do this, maybe I made a mistake". I about passed out.

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u/H0agh 1d ago

And my axe!

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u/Inside-Woodpecker127 1d ago

...body spray!

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u/awilder181 1d ago

Damnit, beat me to it

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u/H0agh 1d ago

Never gets old does it?

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u/TheSupremePixieStick 1d ago

I think NE could make this happen!

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u/Fastnacht 1d ago

Yepp, I'm all for New England becoming it's own thing at this point. Fuck the dead weight of the bible belt. Nothing they do can't immediately be done up North or with help from Canada.

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u/SeahamEditing 1d ago

New England plus New York would be formidable.

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u/ThickerSalmon14 1d ago

And Maryland.... we need a blue states trade compact.

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u/Draugluin2 South Carolina 1d ago

And South Carolina 😔

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u/AlwaysShittyKnsasCty 1d ago

From a Kansan, I feel you, mate.

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u/cafebrands 1d ago

Sure, this is what foghorn would say about that

McMaster on them foreign imports 😃

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u/Evadrepus Illinois 1d ago

Illinois got it done yesterday!

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u/needmini 1d ago

And Massachusetts! I am about to move there. Leaving the South before it gets worse.

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u/ZoomBoy81 1d ago

and my axe!

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u/_-Tabula_Rasa-_ 1d ago

And my bow!

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u/worksafe_Joe 1d ago

And Missouri!

Who am I kidding

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u/thedeuce75 1d ago

New York should get in on this action, but I doubt Kathy Hochul has the back bone.

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u/AwesomeToadUltimate 1d ago

And Maryland!

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u/mc_thac0 1d ago

And my axe!

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u/tunatorch 1d ago

And my AK.

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 1d ago

Without Chicago (IL) and the Twin Cities (MN), what's left of the Midwest? Nothing that can compete against that: OKC and Wichita? Bismarck and Sioux Falls? I don't think so. 

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u/sailorpopeye1s4 10h ago

And Colorado