r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/whoibehmmm 1d ago

Liberate them? They vote for the policies that keep them in the stone age, it's what they want. They should just form their own dream coalition where they have God but no education, healthcare and technology and their blue voters can come to our side.

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u/bejeesus Mississippi 1d ago

I'm starting to think some of y'all aren't as progressive as you claim. Mississippi is almost 40% black almost none of whom vote for any of this nonsense. But fuck em because they're a minority. Fuck my gay sister and my trans cousin and me and my wife. All who voted for Harris but have been unfortunately enough to be born in a red state.

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u/Vyar New Jersey 1d ago

I mean at some point you have to realize the state is lost, right? Republicans have the majority of Mississippi residents convinced that it's in their best interests to vote red for generations, they don't want to vote blue to make things better. Their Senators and Representatives in the federal government make our lives worse.

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u/bejeesus Mississippi 1d ago

I dunno, it was my understanding progressives are supposed to lift and help folks who needed it. Not abandon them. Cause the flood of refugees y'all end up getting would probably cripple your economies anyways. Not to mention the war that would start as well.

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u/Vyar New Jersey 1d ago

We've been trying. If it was going to work, Mississippi would have flipped purple or blue by now. As far as I'm aware, it has never been close to turning away from red.

Abraham Lincoln once said that a house divided against itself cannot stand. That's where we've been at for a while now. Progressives trying to bring our country into the modern era to match our European cousins, while regressives call themselves "conservatives" and keep throwing a tantrum about not getting their way, even though "their way" consists of one simple premise: "We get to do whatever we want, and you get to do whatever we tell you." We've got red states that are worse off than some third-world countries but their residents are convinced it would be worse if a liberal was in charge, so they accept it.

Europeans have healthcare and most basic needs met. We could do that, but we waste money on defense spending and other forms of "corporate welfare" designed to further widen the wealth gap and funnel billions to people who are already billionaires. We keep calling ourselves the "greatest country in the world" while millions of our own people starve so some CEO can buy a third yacht. America is a shithole country for anyone who's not obscenely wealthy.

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u/MaddyKet 19h ago

We could afford to help the refugees because we’d be keeping all our tax dollars, not seeing it go to prop up red states. Personally, if we did get to the point of the blue states seceding, I want the blue refugees in red states to have help relocating.