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Conservative group claims Trump's tariffs illegally usurp powers of Congress

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-unlawful-impost-must-fall-conservative-group-sues-trump-claiming-tariffs-are-unconstitutional-exercise-of-legislative-power/
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u/tehMarzipanEmperor 1d ago

There's a long history of political assassinations. Typically, when the assassin is successful, the outcome is very volatile, tending towards the opposite of what the assassin hoped to accomplish.

It's not done because it doesn't work.

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u/schwanzweissfoto 1d ago

It's not done because it doesn't work.

In any democracy, you can easily find a new / backup leadership. In a dictatorship with a cult of personality though …

A lot of people tried to kill Hitler. Even male models:

Encouraged by Claus Stauffenberg, Major Axel von dem Bussche agreed to carry out a suicide bombing in order to kill Hitler. Bussche, who was over two meters tall, blonde and blue-eyed, exemplified the Nazi "Nordic ideal" and was thus chosen to personally model the Army's new winter uniform in front of Hitler. In his backpack, Bussche concealed a landmine, which he planned to detonate while embracing Hitler. However, the viewing was canceled after the rail car containing the new uniforms was destroyed in an Allied air raid on Berlin.

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Ewald von Kleist attempted a scheme similar to Von dem Bussche's. However, the uniform inspection was once again postponed, and eventually cancelled by Hitler.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Adolf_Hitler

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u/tehMarzipanEmperor 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right...there were 40-some-odd plots against Hitler, around 20 serious...and they all failed.

But more to the point, the July 20 Plot did two things: (1) it gave Hitler the opportunity to settle old scores, deepening his control over Germany and (2) it gave him the delusion that he was saved by God and reinforced his determination to see the war through to the bitter end.

This is the direct opposite of what Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators wanted to achieve.

Edit - You should read "Killer Hitler" by Roger Moorhouse.

Edit - Look at the Trump assassination attempt. This did the opposite of what the shooter had hoped.

Consider the assassination of Julius Ceasar by the Senate...again, it did the opposite of what they had hoped.

What about the Archduke Ferdinand? What did Gavrilo Princip want? Serbian Independence. How did that go?

Again, the reason that political assassination isn't used is because it does not work.

Edit - Lord Mountbatten's assassination by the IRA didn't go so well for Irish Independence, if I recall correctly.

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u/Legio-X Oklahoma 23h ago edited 22h ago

What about the Archduke Ferdinand? What did Gavrilo Princip want? Serbian Independence. How did that go?

Idk, this is one of those cases the assassin actually achieved short-term and long-term success. Princip and his co-conspirators wanted to kill Ferdinand so he couldn’t alleviate ethnic tensions in the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Bosnian Serbs would be easier to incite to revolt. Ultimately, he caused the total disintegration of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the annexation of Bosnia into the Serbian-led Kingdom of Yugoslavia.