I know there are many warnings already against paying for med school consulting businesses, but I wanted to warn about Nitish Thareja who runs Premed Advocates because he uses fake Reddit posts (now deleted) to lure vulnerable premeds.

I’ve had first-hand experience with the pay-as-you-go course he sells, which ends up costing around $50,000. Nitish markets it as a boutique consulting service with the promise of a standout application, but he failed to deliver for me and for a couple of his other applicants I was able to get in touch with. He’s just a med school dropout who realized he could make a ton of money preying on vulnerable (and often wealthy) premed students.

At the start, Nitish assures you that this is a small, family-run business and that he and his team are committed to ensuring your 100% success. But the “team” is just him. His wife, a current student, may hop on an early call or two to help sell the pitch, but she quickly dips (understandably so, she’s probably busy with her own career). After that, it's mostly just him. Thareja signs on as many students as he can. Last year, he had a whopping 40 students. No one person can realistically supervise or mentor even five, let alone 40, applicants. He basically bailed on me during the most critical parts of the application cycle.

He breaks the course into smaller modules that each cost between $5,000–$10,000, which gives the illusion of structure like you’re building toward something meaningful. He asks that you trust the process and that all the work you’re putting into writing for his course will eventually pay off for your AMCAS app. But before you know it, you’ve sunk $20K+ into the program, written a bunch of stuff for his course, and still have nothing substantial ready for your AMCAS. The con is that can’t quit midway, as you don’t gain any value from the intermediate steps. You must “follow the process” and are forced to pay through to the end.

He claims to have a “writing team,” but it’s just one overworked English grad. Most of the content he churns out is just plumbing whatever you wrote through ChatGPT or some other AI tool.

Please do not sign with him.

I have a 3.2 gpa. Downward trend, final semester of undergrad. I just got caught using my phone on a quiz.

If you know who I am based on this Sankey, no you don't 🤗 ask me anything! I did not expect to have such a successful cycle, and I'm still not entirely certain why I did lol

EAT THIS!!! “Alexa, play ‘Not Like Us’ by Kendrick Lamar”

Info: Biology major, Rising College Freshman

How many of you guys use an iPad? Do you use it with the whole Apple ecosystem?

Hi everyone- was hoping I wouldn't have to do this again but here we are. Any support or advice is greatly appreciated.

This cycle I received 4 MD interviews. 3 interviews turned into WLs and one I am still awaiting decision from. I applied to 37 schools. Below are my stats from my application last cycle followed by updates.

OLD APPLICATION

1. cGPA and sGPA as calculated by AMCAS or AACOMAS
   1. cGPA= 3.59, sGPA= 3.457 (strong upward trend, had difficulty after COVID during freshman/sophomore year)
   2. Freshman GPA- 3.48 Sophomore GPA- 3.41 Junior GPA-3.60 Senior GPA- 3.84
2. MCAT score(s) and breakdown
   1. 523, 132/130/129/132 (first and only attempt)
3. State of residence or country of citizenship (if non-US)
   1. NC
4. Ethnicity and/or race
   1. White
5. Undergraduate institution or category
   1. T25 non-ivy
6. Clinical experience (volunteer and non-volunteer)
   1. Hospital CNA in float pool (300 hours)
   2. Pediatric Inpatient Volunteer (140 hours)
   3. Volunteer Nursing Assistant at Assisted Living Facility (40 hours)
7. Research experience and productivity
   1. Biotech research assistant (800 hours, no pubs but working on various projects)
8. Shadowing experience and specialties represented
   1. Pediatric endocrinology (15 hours)
   2. Geriatric medicine (25 hours)
   3. Cardiology (10 hours)
   4. General surgery (28 hours)
9. Non-clinical volunteering
   1. Habitat for Humanity (84 hours)
10. Other extracurricular activities (including athletics, military service, gap year activities, leadership, teaching, etc)
    1. Head Swim Coach of team of 130+ swimmers (2 years, 1600 hours)
    2. Library Assistant (500 hours)
    3. University Scientific Magazine Designer & Illustrator (50 hours)
    4. Distance Running (2000+ hours, started in high school)

School list:

UVA

Duke (II --> WL)

Boston University

University of Pittsburgh

Vanderbilt

Mayo Clinic

Case Western

Columbia

USF Morsani (II --> WL)

UNC Chapel Hill (II --> PENDING)

Wake Forest

Tufts

Emory

Virginia Commonwealth

Colorado

Cincinnati

UCF

Quinnipiac

New York Medical College

Western Michigan (II --> WL)

Dartmouth

University of Miami

Albert Einstein

UCONN

Ohio State

ECU

Virginia Tech

Eastern Virginia

MCW

USC Greenville

Penn State

Vermont

University of Kansas

West Virginia

University of Illinois

Toledo

Updates for my reapplication:

1. Promotion at biotech company (1720 hours)
   1. 3 presentations (1 first author, 2 second author)
   2. Submitting co-first author manuscript for publication in May to a journal with impact factor 12. If accepted will not be published until after primary submission deadline. This study has taken me 1.5 years to complete as it is heavy wet lab work.
2. More CNA hours (now at 650 hours)
   1. Plus experience training other CNAs and increase in responsibilities
3. More Habitat construction Hours (now at 124 hours, will have 188 hours at time of primary submission)
4. New Food bank volunteering (now at 18 hours, will have 35 by submission)
5. New Free Health clinic volunteering (now at 29 hours, will have 60 by submission)
   1. Also includes a role with outreach at Mexican Consulate to improve screening for hypertension, obesity, and diabetes
6. New Letter of recommendation from CEO and founder of biotech company I work for
7. Ran half-marathon in the fall
8. New hobbies- line-dancing and crochet

Notes and Reflections on this past cycle

1. I don't think I had an interviewing issue. I had several interviewers tell me they loved my answer, enjoyed talking to me, hoped I'd pick their school, etc. I am comfortable interviewing and did a solid amount of practice before each interview.
2. PS was read and edited by 6+ people including current med students, other grad students, and my PI. I feel confident in my why medicine and all my reasons are backed up by real experiences as a CNA. I prewrote secondaries and submitted all an average of 3 days after receipt (latest was 1.5 weeks after.)
3. General feedback I've gotten from med students/friends/etc is that I just got unlucky this cycle. Not sure how to move forward from that.
4. If I had to identify any significant weaknesses in my previous application, it would be low non-clinical volunteering (84 hours at Habitat) or my low GPA (3.59, though strong upward trend.)
5. I would say general theme of my application is teamwork- lots of parallels between coaching a swim team and working together as physician, nurses, PT/OT/, and patient to create best possible treatment plans for patients.
6. I submitted early (May 29).

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am not sure how to go about reapplying. I still believe my personal statement was strong and my why medicine has not changed- it is simply backed up by even more experiences as a CNA, free clinic volunteer, food bank volunteer, etc.

Any schools I should remove or add? Thoughts on applying to Texas schools this cycle?

I know I could still get off one of my 3 WLs, but I want to prepare for reapplication just in case.

Thank you everyone!

I was part of my schools “medical response unit” essentially first aid on campus. And put about 100 hours of clinical volunteering and training into it. But after awhile I realized I genuinely disliked it because I did not feel prepared to handle it which made me very anxious as well as the fact that it took me away from the experience I was getting working as a PCA in the hospital. I now work in the ER and realize I could’ve handled the stuff I was worried about at the time, I just wasn’t mature enough. My main worry is that the people who run the program from my Alma mater may have ties to the med school as well and may totally decline my application bc I “quit”. I don’t think I left on bad terms necessarily as I explained why I didn’t enjoy the program, but I’m afraid it could be seen as a possible red flag. EDIT: technically speaking the unit “required” or late last wanted you to serve two full semesters after training which I did not do.

Demographics: 23 M, ORM (Asian), midwest resident, local state school, 2 gap years

cGPA: 3.81, sGPA: 3.70

MCAT: 495 --> 507 | CASPer: 4th Quartile

Experiences:

Clinicals: ~1000 hours

Non-Clinical Community Service: ~1200 hours

Research: ~1800 hours

Leadership: ~2000 hours (was also weaved throughout all my experiences)

Strengths:

Not sure, no one in my interviews said what they liked about my application, but I assume that I might've had good ECs/writing to get the success I did.

Weaknesses:

MCAT, plain and simple.

Takeaways:

All it takes is one, and even with lower metrics you can still be accepted. Don't give up and keep going!

I’ll be moving over 12 hours away (by car) in a little over 3 months, what are some ways I can make the move easier over the next few months.

Yes, a ridiculous idea, but I have a good reason- and as I don't know any doctors personally, I don't know who to ask.

Children, dependents, and surviving spouses of veterans who were, under specific circumstances, either permanently disabled or killed as a result of their military service are able to attend any public institution/university in the state of California with the tuition waived, as long as the dependent is a resident of the state of California. I qualify for this tuition waiver.

What this means is that I can become a physician with minimal to no debt. Obviously, the idea of going to a great school for free is much more attractive than taking on ~$300k+ in debt to attend a less prestigious institution. (EDIT: not to mention honoring the sacrifice made by my loved one, which practically goes without saying. If I can try to use this to have a positive impact on society and my family, I am bound by duty to devote myself to the attempt. It's also something I've dreamed of since before I could read.)

Now for the stats:

I am a career changer. I graduated from a UC in '18 with a GPA of 3.14 (psych BA). I wasn't premed because I never thought I would be capable of becoming a doctor. I don't have any relevant extracurricular experience. I didn't participate in research. I was very lost at the time, and while I didn't make any significant mistakes, I didn't make good use of my time. I have since had a career in the maritime industry and the field of conservation. I am NREMT-licensed and will shortly have a Merchant Mariner Credential. I have matured significantly as a student and in general since college.

I will need to take a post-bacc to both cover the required STEM material and raise my GPA.

If you were me, what would you do to guarantee admission to a UC? No time limits necessary. I want to better understand just how much of a reach it is to imagine me getting accepted to one of these schools. Will this be 5 years of work? Can I DIY my post-bacc? Is this even possible?

Thank you in advance for your input.

Hi guys!! A fellow M1 here ready to answer any questions/comments you guys have as I try to push through the last month of M1 year. Feel free to ask me about any application advice, personal experiences, or just how I felt during my M1 year! I remember how hard it was to push through waiting for my cycle to finally end. I'm here for you guys and i'm rooting for you!!

Edit: Sorry for the late replies! I am back so feel free to ask anything!!

I am so glad that I get to stay in my home state near my family. The acceptances were 1 MD (Committed) and 2 DO. I never really thought I would get into MD schools so I applied DO heavy. I chose the MD school because it is in my hometown and my boyfriend of many years is studying for his MA in Dietetics at this Health Science University. My state DO school is actually one of the best DO schools and is affiliated with a large hospital..so I would have gotten a great education there..just would have had to move by myself. I will answer any questions people may have!

My Info:

MCAT- 505

cGPA- 3.68

sGPA- 3.4-3.5 depending how you calculate it.

Major: Health and Exercise Science. Minor: History

Residency: OK

Clinical Hours: around 3000, ~300 were direct-patient care hours.

No research

Undergraduate TA for Human Physiology for a year.

60 hrs of volunteering in a NICU and university-wide volunteering event.

Treasurer for a school club

Hi, I received my first II and the interview is going to be an MMI. I have no clue how to prepare honestly.

I was wondering if any of you guys that have gone thru an MMI would share some tips? What was something that went wrong and was could you have done better? What would you have done differently? What was useful to you and what wasn’t?

Sorry for the crappy english, my first language is french. Love you all!

I don't really know how to even explain it? I am currently failing a trig class and the highest score possible for me to get is a mid C. I don't have a special reason why I got a bad score like some people have (medical reasons etc.), I guess I just overestimated my comprehension and it ended up hurting me anyways.

I know this is dumb for me to say, but I've always gotten by previously, and although I do study (with the textbook and notes), this recent test really hit me hard, I did worse than I thought (which I am really pissed about because I really studied for this one and shit) and it tanked my grade. This class will tank my GPA, I know it. The end of next week is the final day to decide whether I withdraw from a class or not, should I just withdraw? A mid C is the highest I can get but that is not guaranteed.

Will med schools dislike like a W? I will retake the class during the summer time either at a local community college or just at the university again. I understand that this is really bad and I don't plan on something like this happening again, so this would be my only W.

Super stoked to have the above three schools. I am also sitting on WL at BU and Utah and waiting for final decision from Kaiser and Vermont. For now, I can only see an acceptance from Kaiser really shaking things up. Nonetheless, I will focus on choosing from the acceptances in front of me.

Creighton ($450k for all four years)

Pros: -Matches well all over the country -super supportive student body and faculty -cheap COL -I enjoyed Omaha’s vibe -I loved the service focus and Jesuit approach to care. -Ranks higher than UNLV but not sure how it compares to UAPHX (see below)

Cons: -Expensive ahh tuition -far from home (have lived away from home so can adjust)

University of Arizona - Phoenix ($340k for all four years) Pros: -Close to home! -Matches well to CA and AZ (especially to the home program) -Cheapest and cheap COL -Students seem to really love it there -Can find housing within walking distance of campus -small pro: they were my first A and called on the first day I could hear back. Did not expect the A at all especially as an OOS.

Cons: -It is not officially ranked so is hard to compare to other schools

University of Nevada Las Vegas ($380k for all four years) Pros: -Best friend lives here -Students seem to love it here as well -Faculty and admin is super committed to student success -Lot of growth in the next few years. Children’s hospital in the next 2-3 years being built. 5-year plan is to have their own UNLV hospital. -I connected well with my faculty interviewer and they got me hyped up on UNLV -They are new but growing FAST -Vegas seems like a fun spot to be for med school

Cons: -Not as strong of a match list compared to the other schools -program is ~6 years old

I am leaning one way but would love to hear thoughts and insights!

Edit: Should I heavily consider Utah if I get off the WL? They have a solid ortho residency and I am interested in ortho at this time. The drawbacks would be it is $$$ to go to Utah as an OOS the first year and while the school is very liberal it is in a red state doing very red activities.

hi! I'm applying in May and would preferably not apply to almost 50 schools, but I'm having some trouble figuring out which schools to cut. any help is appreciated! thank you in advance!!

1. cGPA: 3.99, sGPA 4.00
2. MCAT: 517 (129/127/131/130)
3. CA resident
4. ORM female
5. Undergrad: T20 public university
6. Clinical: 400 hours as NICCU (and non-NICCU) cuddler & working with pediatric patients at children's hospital (reading, drawing, talking, getting them resources); 300 hours in patient escort
7. Research: 1300 hours (2 labs -- 1 abstract + 5 conferences/posters, both are long-term projects so publications are slow-going)
8. Shadowing: 32 hours
9. Non-clinical volunteering: 170 hours (120 hours across 2 food banks/meal delivery programs; 20 hours at an emergency distribution center during natural disaster; 30 from reading to elementary school kids as part of club)
10. Leadership: 400 hours
11. No scholarship/awards
12. Misc: Have my own print/art store, donate 50% of earnings to local charities; continuing research (unpaid) over gap year

LORs
2 science (likely average-strong)
1 psych professor (average)
1 MD cardiologist, also my PI (strong)
1 PI (strong)

Schools

- All the UCs
- Stanford
- Kaiser
- CUSM
- BU
- Tufts
- UMass-Chan
- University of Pittsburgh
- SKMC
- Penn State
- Rochester
- Albany
- Albert Einstein
- Icahn Mount Sinai
- NYMC
- NYU Long Island
- Stony Brook
- SUNY
- Cornell
- Emory
- Dartmouth
- Virginia Tech
- VCU
- UVA
- Vandy
- Duke
- Wake Forest
- UMN
- UA Phoenix
- Case Western
- UCinci
- Ohio State
- Vermont
- MC Wisconsin
- University of Wisconsin
- West Virginia
- Yale
- Drexel
- Quinnipiac-netter
- Loyola
- Northwestern
- UIC
- Wayne State
- Western Michigan Stryker

I’m currently a prospective neuroscience major planning to switch from psych to neuro 2026 spring semester. However, I’m currently taking a neuroscience course on fundamentals and it’s killing me. I passed and failed the first two exams so far and I have one coming up that’s on a very difficult unit.

I want to know what I should do if I get a C in this course. I’m barely touching a B- (81.25). I already calculated my GPA and if things go right I’ll still have a 3.5-3.7 with the C if it happens. But I’m a freshman. Is this a bad look, and if it is, should I look into retaking the course at some point?

I was an undergrad about six years ago but dropped out because of financial and family trouble.

I'm financially stable now, but won't have time to return to a traditional campus because I work full-time currently and so I am considering transferring my credits to an online college.

I finished about 90% of my Biochem/ molecular biology degree and had a 3.8GPA.

Do I have any good chance of being accepted to a medical university despite getting a degree from an online university? Will I be considered at all?

Is this too grim to open up for a personal statement?

Growing up as a frequent patient at Riley Children’s Hospital, I experienced firsthand the importance of compassionate and thorough care. Later, as a Division I baseball player, I witnessed this again. As I clawed my way back from three separate throwing-related surgeries, only for my career to end after an unsuccessful thoracic outlet surgery. Throughout it all, both of my parents were simultaneously battling advanced-stage cancers. These major experiences gave me a new outlook on medicine and ignited an authentic passion to help people like them and like myself. There is a lot of healing to be done nationwide, and I want to be a part of that.

Had to run before I could answer anything on the last AMA.

Hey everybody, reapplicant (3 gap yrs) looking to make a fat list for the upcoming cycle. My app has really lopsided stats/ECs, would appreciate any and all input (especially if there are decently high-yield schools I'm missing).

Looking to apply to ~30-35 MD schools and 5-10 DO schools. My app is very research heavy but I don't have much of a personal interest in going MD/PhD.

Stats/ECs: CA ORM, undergrad at a mid-tier UC;

3.4 cGPA (no upward trend), 521 MCAT (score is just over 2 yrs old at this point which disqualifies me from some schools)

5000 (+2k anticipated) hrs research (about half at my alma mater and half at a T20's med school I now work at); 1 pub (and a review I wrote for a UG journal), 1 pres, another pub maybe in a few months. My current lab is huge, well funded, and does a lot of really cool work so it'll be the focus of a lot of my personal statement.

1000 hrs clinical (paid, EMT)

100 hrs volunteering (food bank)

100 hrs shadowing, most of that in-person but with some virtual stuff done during COVID

Other stuff: 500 hrs as a math tutor early in undergrad, leadership position in a research club as a UG and also worked on a mentoring program for said club

Current MD List:

[the T20 I currently work at]

Central MichU

Creighton

Dartmouth

Indiana Uni

MedColl Wisc.

NYMC

OaklandUni

OhioState

Quinnipiac

Stony Brook

SUNY Upstate

Tufts

UCD

UCinn

UCLA

UCSD

UKansas

UMass

UMinnesota

USC

UVermont

UWisc

VirgTech

Wake Forest

Wayne State

WVU

Prospective MD schools: CalSciMed, Geisinger, Hackensack, Rochester, SUNY downstate, Uni of Virginia, Einstein, Case Western, Rosalind Franklin, Hofstra

DO Schools: MSUCOM (mich. state), Western (in Pomona), CCOM (chicago), OSU-COM (oklahoma), OU-HCOM (Ohio), North Texas, Rowan, WVSOM, LECOM

Thanks everyone! I originally applied in 2023/24 and got no II's (skipped 24/25 cycle) so I'm looking to cast as broad a net as possible (and adding DO schools this time around).

Hi r/premed

I am 17, permanent residents, male Hispanic background, semi poor background, I have over 110 college credits at an honors college and a cumulative GPA of around 3.74.  This should go up to about 3.8 or at least High 3.7 if I lock in.

I'll be done with my bachelor's degree at around the age of 18 I have over 1,500 research hours two posters one talk and publications (plural) are highly likely in the future I have little over 100 hours of shadowing and plan to do EMT work. I will as well do obviously as good as I can on my MCAT as I know that I have more time than the average pre-med due to my young age.

What should I do with this time?

and what are realistic medical schools that I could get into with a 3.8 and possibly a high MCAT score (I really hope to get 520 plus of course 😭)?

the reason I didn't do so hot in some of my classes (hence the 3.74) is because 15-year-old me didn't take honors organic chemistry to seriously and ended up with an A minus along with a lot of other A minuses that just STACKED TF UP. I appreciate any responses of what I should do with all of this time.

Much love. I'll answer any questions to clarify stuff.

Anyone knows when medical schools started to require applicants to fill out secondaries?

Also, does anyone have and may share those old secondaries questions?

I'm in my last semester of junior year. I don't think I'm going to pass my ochem foundations, and my genetics class is kicking my ass. I have a trashy science gpa and my overall gpa is just 3.1. I am volunteering at my local hospital and planning to take post bacc program. I don't take school seriously because I wasn't 100% onset that I want to pursue med school but it feels like it's too late now because I played around too much. I hope to improve my performance next semester (and I don't think I will graduate on time bc of all the requirements I need to finish, still)

Hearing and seeing all the acceptance rates and stats that medical school requires scares me that I am going to a dead end. Please tell me your inspiring stories or getting thru obstacles like this, I don't want to give up. Please be nice, I know I messed up big time...