r/science Professor | Medicine 20d ago

Neuroscience Twin study suggests rationality and intelligence share the same genetic roots - the study suggests that being irrational, or making illogical choices, might simply be another way of measuring lower intelligence.

https://www.psypost.org/twin-study-suggests-rationality-and-intelligence-share-the-same-genetic-roots/
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u/[deleted] 19d ago edited 19d ago

People like to pretend we are the one animal not behaviorally influenced by our genetics but we are, we know behavior traits can be selected for in various species the problem is a matter of a choice and we as a people need to choose not to engage in legally enforced Eugenics in people while still acknowledging reality that we don't know what we don't know and allowing research to proceed so we can perhaps still find treatments for problematic behaviors that may have a genetic or epigenetic component.

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u/Foolishium 19d ago

Ok, how we categorize "Problematic" behavior? Is "Autism" problematic behavior? Is "Schizoid" a problematic behavior? Is "Narcissicsm" a problematic behavior?

To even entertain behavioral genetic engineering to cure "problematic" behavior is more problematic than those "problematic" behavior themselves.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago edited 19d ago

Generally that goes through medical boards and studies but yes people would like to be able to treat various mental disorders. Autism non functioning low function would be nice if it could be cured and allow people to live a normal full life not dependent on others for everything instead of being able to make their own choices. High level obviously doesn't matter they have autonomy friends in the spectrum. It would have been great if there was a better treatment for schizophrenia so an old friend of mine wouldn't have lost it and murdered his mother. That line you speak of is and always will exist but isn't a reason not to do the research. Is a reason for robust regulation of application of said knowledge. What do we allow testing for prior to birth and what are parents allowed to do with that information is a valid conversation, are we allowed to gain that understanding of knowledge and restricting even finding out is not a useful discussion in my opinion and only delays putting in proper safe guards.

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u/Arashmickey 19d ago

proper safe guards.

What are the political and social and political safeguards? How do we know if they're effective?

Given how the idea of genetic intelligence has fed slavery and war, I should to find expect slippery slope arguments and resistance in the comment section here.

The need for safeguard should have been apparent before this study, and it should be apparent now.

And although I'd like to be a vocal proponent for research in this matter, I'm given pause by the absence of discussion of effective safeguards here, where it's relevant.