Previously I was thinking that Helly is trapped in the loop, but now I think her outie was entering the door again and again like the Mark S did in the the Cobel's cottage

What do you guys think about it ?

Can we talk about the macrodata, please, Mr. Milchick?

I've been dying to talk about the macrodata with you all day, OK? "Cobelvig," this name keeps coming up over and over again.

Every day Cobel's macrodata is getting sent back to me.

Cobelvig!

Cobelvig!

I look in the macrodata, and this whole box is Cobelvig!

So I say to myself, "I gotta find her! I gotta go up to her office and put her macrodata in her goddamn hands! Otherwise, she's never going to get it and she's going to keep coming back down here."

So I go up to Cobel's office and what do I find out, Mr. Milchick?

What do I find out?!

There is no Cobelvig.

The woman does not exist, okay?

So I decide, "Oh shit, buddy, I gotta dig a little deeper."

There's no Cobelvig?

You gotta be kidding me!

I got boxes full of Cobel!

All right, so I start marchin' my way down to Casey in Wellness and I knock on her door and I say, "Casey! Casey! I gotta talk to you about Cobel."

And when I open the door what do I find?

There's not a single goddamn desk in that office!

There...is...no...Casey in Wellness!

Mr. Milchick, half the employees in this building have been made up.

This office is a goddamn ghost town.

Although I have finished only 5 episodes of season 1, it is quite obvious that the "severance" could not have any kind of positive impact on the outie version of Mark. Mark is actually fast-forwarding his life by deducting 8 hours from his everyday life. He does not retain any good memories of his work life, meaning that the only benefit he gets is a "short life span". In the end, the outie Mark is stuck in that same old rotten hole. I think it would be a hell of a stretch to assume that shortening/fast-forwarding his life is the benefit he was referring to when he said, "The severeance has helped him". On top of that, that short life has to bear the valueless physical exhaustion he gets from his work life.

I don't know what I am missing. Do you guys also feel the same way?

Spent about two hours at Bell Works this morning. The exhibits were really cute and well done. Not too crowded. The bakery was giving out waffles. The bar had themed drinks. You still have time if you live nearby and want to check it out. Great photo ops!

I felt like this season had way too many plot conveniences—honestly, it was over the top. I just couldn’t buy into several scenes, I couldn’t suspend my disbelief. I don’t get why there isn’t a single security guard per hallway, or at the very least, audio-enabled surveillance cameras with a central control room listening in on everything the Innies are saying and plotting. Lumon has plenty of reasons to keep a close eye on the Innies, especially after what they pulled at the end of last season. They know Mark is aware of Gemma’s existence, they know they’re looking for her inside, so it makes no sense to let them roam around without even basic monitoring—especially considering we’ve seen them tracking Outie Mark’s movements and conversations in the outside world.

They’ve already shown they can put cameras wherever they want and monitor everything through those creepy ‘shadow versions’ of the Innies downstairs. There’s just no excuse. And because of that plot convenience, Mark is able to walk right up to the elevator corridor to the floor where Gemma is being kept, without facing any (or almost any) obstacles. He even gets into the room she’s in—and the doctor there doesn’t even have a camera to see who’s arriving via elevator and is caught completely off guard when Mark enters? Come on.

And that’s just one of many plot conveniences that bothered me. Devon suddenly being besties with the woman who nearly kidnapped her daughter? Reghab randomly finding Mark and moving into his house—and no one from Lumon is monitoring who’s coming and going? (These are the same people who have a key to Irving’s apartment and know exactly when he’s not home, so clearly they can and do monitor whoever the script conveniently wants them to monitor.)

Then no one even questions Reghab about what’s really going on inside Lumon—the purpose behind the whole macrodata refinement thing or the severance department—and everyone just agrees to reintegrate without a second thought, just so they can dump all the answers in one big, underwhelming info dump in the final episode? I was already losing interest with how none of the characters seem remotely human—like, nobody questions anything unless it serves the plot?

What about the goats? Were they really just for sacrifice, with no deeper reason like incubating severed consciousnesses awaiting new bodies or anything interesting? And Brienne—did she go through severance? Her fight scene was super cool, but she suddenly rebels over something she’s apparently been fine doing until now? Was she doing it voluntarily all along or not? Her change of heart made no sense—it just felt convenient.

Anyway, bottom line: if there were audio-enabled cameras and a proper monitoring center, plus a few undercover guards walking the halls pretending to be Innies, there wouldn’t be a plot left in Severance.

As promised, here are some pictures of my fiancé’s birthday! We had so much fun preparing everything!

Just look at this....

Watching it after the whole available series, this episode says so much about what was to come. One thing that stuck out to me is this still. Just oMark joking with Devon. Given what we know now about iMark, this is a bit unsettling. Things to come?

Devon and Gemma (not as Ms. Casey) are just strangers to iMark.

I realize I’m late to the finale party but I just needed somewhere to share my final thoughts!

So okay, I understand why iMark runs to Helly, but I just don’t care about them at all as a couple. Nothing throughout this season (or last!) made me think, “wow, they’re really in love, I love them together.” Whereas I have been rooting for Gemma and oMark since we found out Ms Casey was his wife and I don’t know…I guess it was just a bit of a letdown to see them reconcile for literally less than a minute and then BAM! Done.

& I get it, no innies means no season 3, but still. It was a major bummer imho and I can’t help but wonder…did the writers think people would be happy about this? Like are Helly and iMark supposed to be some great love story? Because if so…I’m just not feeling it.

I think when innies sleep, they dream about the outside world too. That's why everytime Irving sleeps, he dreams about the black paint his outtie is using for the art. Also severance hand book stresses how sleeping during work hours is against their values and Mr.Milchick warns him time and again. Irving also spent a day at break room for sleeping.

I just finished S2 yesterday and my mind is racing with all theories, trying to look for cracks.

My wife disagree on this saying I look too closely at an insignificant details, (somehow she knew instantly Helly was actually Helena) BUT.

Given how complicated and intricate the whole show is, I don't think it would be just a shortcut and lazy script-writing (although dropping the Doug Graner's murder also seemed undercooked - yeah, I'm cool with someone killing person in front of me and can forget about it) to do it that way. In my opinion, the fact that after Cobelvig betrayed Devon and Mark, and they found out - WHY did Devon trusted Cobelvig to the point of losing probably the only person who had a remote idea on how to help Mark after he collapsed (Reghabi) after she said Devon will be on her own, should she call Cobelvig - she still went with it. The aspect of her unwavering confidence raises my suspicion here. How could she put all her trust into someone who was obviously a liar and somewhat crazy be worthy of that level of trust.

Later we learn how things played out but at this point I feel like a severed employee and trust noone, I would not be surprised if it would turn out Mark's whole "out" life was staged.

I do not want to go too far with this but I also think that Devon's relationship with Ricken does not make sense. She is obviously smarter and way more down-to-earth compared to a guy who comes up with ideas which are at least eccentric. Maybe it's "love is blind" kind of thing.

I reserve the right to be completely wrong here, I just had this irresistible need to brainstorm this idea.

I love the show, cannot remember the last time I was so invested in trying to get the answers!

Alright, I know their is controversy about the 'cloning' theory. Hear me out. There were theories that Walt Disney's head or body was frozen so that one day he can be cloned or brought back to life once technology progresses. Relating this to serevence, if you remember

- the refiners were given gifts of their faces in crystals as rewards (which looked like them in ice)

- Irving's head was displayed at his funeral in a watermelon

- the setting of severance takes place in a cold climate which they seem to mention a lot

What if the show is referencing Walt Disney, or other CEOs who were rumored to have been frozen after their death to be 'brought back' to life... leading to my theory that Kier Egan is frozen and Lumon is working on technology to revive people who have passed. Could this be the reason Ms. Cobel wanted to be involved in the whole thing to bring back her mom who had passed away?

So, is it driving anyone else crazy that Mark claims to have identified Gemma’s body after she died but then questioned none of it when she “is alive’!!!

I’m rewatching the show after finishing the season 2 finale, I’m currently on the second episode where they show the perspective of “Helena” getting her chip implanted and then later in the stairwell when Helly is trying to leave the severed floor, Milcheck calls her outtie “Helly”. I was so shocked by this, especially after seeing their dynamic in the second season it doesn’t make sense why he’d refer to his boss by a nickname.

Not O&D quality but we’re working on getting there.

just thinking about how fucked it is for gemma who doesn’t know that mark is severed or wasn’t himself when he runs off with helly in the final ep. from gemma’s pov, she has been tortured for two years, is rescued and lovingly reunites with her husband, who then refuses to leave with her, locks her out the building and runs off with another woman

Planning on watching again the two seasons as a preparation for this! You might have some infos there that want to share. Thanks.