r/stocks • u/badharp • 2d ago

What happens on Monday

The market open down big today, rallied a bit, then continues to deteriorate further today (Friday). Today is worse than yesterday so far and we have another hour and a half. What do you guys think will happen at Monday's open, down or up? People will have time to hear more (bad) news over the weekend. And think about it. Wonder if it will tank more.

I really haven't read any good news from all this tariff action.

(Disclosure: I am long a silver stock I have been holding long-term and short Tesla via TSLQ. Gotta decide if I will stay in TSLQ into Monday.)

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u/mislysbb 2d ago

At this point, anything could happen. He could tweet at 1am Sunday morning that he’s lifting/delaying tariffs, or the EU could retaliate and then he’ll just double down on them. Who the heck knows right now

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u/TheFondestComb 2d ago

After China retaliated I doubt he’s going to lift any at all. He was slapped in the face on the national stage and his ego is to fragil to let that go.

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u/NoNDA-SDC 2d ago

I would love to be a fly on the wall listening in on the backroom discussions happening... Has a hamburger been thrown against the wall yet? Maybe multiple?

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u/OrneryZombie1983 2d ago

I doubt he owns any stocks other than his own.

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u/TheOctoBox 2d ago

Nothing like electing a president that has been bankrupt multiple times to only crush our own government.

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u/Kerosene1 2d ago

Technically Trump has never been bankrupt

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u/TheOctoBox 2d ago

Six of his businesses have declared for bankruptcy. But I guess technically not him. But you get my point

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u/DiscountAcrobatic356 2d ago

He slimed his way out. That’s his MO. He only bankrupts investors and now it’s America’s turn.

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u/No_Paramedic_2039 1d ago

He had to have known that severe tariffs would tank the market.

Those in the know, his friends and maybe other countries, likely made bank on shorting the market. If and when he gives up on this fool’s errand those same people will benefit from the upturn.

He will be paid back, probably indirectly rather than directly but rest assured he will make money off this episode.

Say all the negative things you want about him and I’ll likely agree with it all, but one think you can’t say is that at this point in his life he hasn’t figured out how to monetize the presidency.

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u/TheFondestComb 2d ago

Are you really trying to compare Trump to Buffet?

The guy who bankrupted a casino??

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u/ThinkPath1999 2d ago

Oh, no no...THREE casinos.

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u/TheFondestComb 1d ago

And failed to successfully sell steaks…. To Americans…

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u/mulefluffer 2d ago

I like how he said China ‘panicked’, like they were just gonna sit around and take a ramming from his fat orange ass.

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u/TheFondestComb 2d ago

Also it just proved he has no idea what a tariff actually is. The fact he’s targeting the places we buy from the most is especially big brain super smart move. Smh my head

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u/Dull_Guess_4217 2d ago

shake my head my head

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u/TheFondestComb 2d ago

👌Yes, I know many words. Some even say the best words. I know them all 👌

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u/Dull_Guess_4217 2d ago

omg im lol'ing out loud!!!

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u/aanymouse 2d ago

I know words nobody else knows

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u/lostinspacs 2d ago

Well first China said they were going to jointly respond with Korea and Japan.

Instead they responded alone very quickly while other countries are still talking to the Trump admin.

Hard to know what’s really going on either way. It’s not like we can take anything Trump says at face value.

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u/KissmySPAC 2d ago

Deflect and point to a new agreement with Chad.

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u/SouthLakeWA 2d ago

Or Madagascar. In exchange for eliminating our new tariffs on vanilla beans and cloves, they will remove their import duties on Teslas and semiconductors. A real win-win.

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u/Western_Assignment98 2d ago

worryingly ive seen multiple articles talking about trump possibly lifting chinese tarriffs if they sell him tik tok... why does he want tik tok so bad that he was willing to crash the us economy??

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u/sammyp99 2d ago

Propaganda

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u/AnyFaithlessness7991 2d ago

Well he could lift all others except China "to show them to not mess with him"

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u/Dr-McLuvin 2d ago

That’s what I’m hoping for something crazy like that.

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u/paragonx29 2d ago

"Let's negotiate Xi, it will be tremendous!"

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u/Slowjams 2d ago

Exactly.

Thats what’s so scary about this to me. Trump operates almost entirely on ego. He will let the people’s livelihood disappear and their retirement evaporate before he admits he’s wrong about something.

This time around he’s also made sure to surround himself with the most sycophantic dick sucks possible. Nobody else is going to tell him he’s wrong either.

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u/TheFondestComb 1d ago

👌👌no cry babies in the casino. Only my love Elon pelon is allowed to be sad when the Teslur goes down👌👌

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u/Pmang6 2d ago

This is what people gotta understand about trump. There is no grand plan. There's no secret end game. He's exactly as stupid as he looks and he'll do whatever the last person he talked to told him is a good idea. When someone shows you who they are, believe it.

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u/OrangeArch 2d ago

10000% - He doesn't even have a "semblance of a plan". Just fuck shit up until it's time to play golf.

I've never been a "time the market" guy, but I think now is a good time. Moved about 1/3 of my portfolio out of stocks last month... wish I had done more.

Trump will continue to cause severe damage to the US (and by extension, Global) market for the foreseeable future.

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u/Yellow_Otherwise 2d ago

Dude I went 1/3 cash, and 1/3 in EU defense companies and 1/3 in agriculture + oil + coca cola and I still got fucked yesterday. I was expecting a crash and first day was relatively fine but today, fuck today.

WTF is going on, you dont see agriculture to fall 5-6% or oil to crash up 10%

I am going to buy a 1 room bedroom shitty apartment, this shit is going way too much, feels like beginning of a long terrible trade war

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u/VegasWorldwide 2d ago

but we could've had coconut lady, Meghan the stallion and cardi b running the show hahaha

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u/Argon_Boix 2d ago

In inanimate carbon rod would be preferable at this point. And none of the folks you list are an owned subsidiary of Putin Inc.

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u/VegasWorldwide 2d ago

but but but cardi b on the campaign was supposed to get the black vote!!

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u/TheRealSatanicPanic 2d ago

Yes. Would everyone please stop trying to assert there's some secret hand working through him to accomplish something? He's Idi Amin- wrecking everything in sight because he's fucking dumb, unhinged and there's no one with the courage to stop him.

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u/Katejina_FGO 2d ago

The reality is if this goes on long enough, he will find out that he doesn't have any brakes on this train anymore. Europe is finding its feet as the natural successor to the leader of the free world, and China is emboldened to fill in for America's vacancy on the world stage. The presumptive next leader of Canada openly taunted this administration with the intent to form an anti-American coalition of the willing.

If the president gives up now, he admits defeat before all. If the president gives up later, that probably won't matter because the tariffs turned from sticky to glued.

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u/This-Grape-5149 2d ago

Trump doesn’t care he will leave a dumpster fire for the next person to clean up, he’s woefully unqualified yet here we are. Let him operate the controls of a world superpower

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u/iplayblaz 2d ago

Canada is coming through in the clutch to show some semblance of North American leadership.

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u/SomePolack 2d ago

Mexico is hiding in the corner trying not to get noticed

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u/Yellow_Otherwise 2d ago

sad reality is there is no alternative to US consumption, no country every comes close to consumption average US citizen does. Unless countries do massive, I mean massive stimulus checks we are fucked

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u/Parallel-Quality 2d ago

The only thing I would change is that he doesn’t seem to be listening to anyone anymore.

He made up his mind about tariffs, despite pretty much everyone across the board in both parties acknowledging that they don’t work and won’t accomplish what he says they will.

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u/itookthepuck 2d ago edited 2d ago

This is what people gotta understand about trump. There is no grand plan. There's no secret end game.

Let's see. They have accomplished 45% of project 2025 in a short duration. And ya'll are still parroting he has no game plan. We just dont know their game plan because we dont know what the restricted part 2 of project 2025 says.

I fully expect them to double down. This administration has been clear about what they want. Ya'll just refuse to see what they are doing. The on/off tarrif they had was just a test, IMO.

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u/MyrrhSlayter 2d ago

Part 2 is probably the part where they have the military start taking the 2A guns away. It's why it's hidden.

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u/MSFTCAI_TestAccount 2d ago

Are tariffs a part of P2025? I think this is a trump thing, he's talked about it for decades.

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u/me_xman 2d ago

Retribution IMO

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 2d ago

at this point the tariffs, if they get lifted will not change a damn thing. our trading partners are already dissolving their agreements with us because they do not want to play these games and are aligning with one another. Canada is going to come out as a winner on this because they have precious metals and resources that the EU needs, and spent decades knee-capping their own economy in exchange for defense from the US, which now has decided that Canada has gotten for free for too long.

Mexico is also brokering agreements with soon to be former US trading partners.

The US is isolating and collapsing itself.

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u/Argon_Boix 2d ago

Just as Putin planned.

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u/Digital26bath 2d ago

It depends on how bad is the Big Mac that day

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u/Crazy_Donkies 2d ago

That's not good.  A $7 crap, smaller Big Mac surely means disaster.

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u/Argon_Boix 2d ago

BUT - it will make his hands seem normal sized!

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u/PeePeeWeeWee1 2d ago

Whoppers are larger so he should change to eating whoppers!

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u/gquax 2d ago

Nobody is forgetting this shit though

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u/jayc428 2d ago

True. Monday might rally back just on a technical basis but honestly this is a who knows since it’s changing a fundamental basis for companies to operate with no notice so metrics and technical signals could very well end up being useless here. VIX closed over 40, it never does that short of 2008 crash and start of COVID.

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u/Constant-Screen3684 2d ago

I also think the market is pricing in the possibility that he lifts them because a lot of the media’s narrative is that he might be bluffing. It’s going to be down, down, down everyday until he lifts them or we reach whatever the real bottom is

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u/titsmuhgeee 2d ago

I could realistically see us coming to some hazy agreement with Vietnam so Trump lifts their tariffs. They've already said that they want to strike a deal.

Signaling that Trump actually wants to negotiate with these countries would be huge, rather than just implementing these permanently.

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u/backtotheland76 2d ago

This non answer is the only answer