r/todayilearned 3d ago

TIL Part of N.Machiavelli's diplomatic mission to Cesare Borgia included sending intel back to his government, even down to Borgia's personal habits. He noticed that he had inhuman energy and could go several nights working sleepless but occasionaly would "fall to his bed" and refuse to see anyone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Borgia#Personal_life
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u/GingerCraig 3d ago

first hour of the night.

that does not mean 1AM , it's probably 8 or maybe 9pm. Also travel for the well-to-do has never been an exhausting undertaking. nothing in this seems overtly abnormal

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u/ITividar 3d ago

My 30 min drive to work (20 miles) is what they could cover in a good day by land. Pretty sure no matter your status, travel was exhausting and long.

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u/GingerCraig 3d ago

long certainly. Exhausting will largely differ by status and method. if you're sitting in a carriage it;s just boring not "exhausting"

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u/ITividar 3d ago

Spend all day on horseback, see if you're not exhausted. Or spend all day traveling in a carriage without suspension, feeling every bump in the road. Super not exhausting being tossed about, yeah?

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u/DistrictOpen3163 3d ago

or 10 hours on a plane...you aren't doing anything, but it's absolutely exhausting

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u/GingerCraig 2d ago

lol indeed. hence my "status and method" , upfront on a plane for 10 hours is most perfectly fine; in th eback of the same plane , yeah, exhausting probably starts as i put my seatbelt on :)

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u/DistrictOpen3163 2d ago

i wish they'd let me upfront :( always tryna' charge me for it

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u/nathtendo 2d ago

Spend 3 days on an all inclusive cruise to get across the lake, see how tired you are.

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u/GingerCraig 2d ago

Sure but in this very context, it's Imola to Salarolo and back so about 25ish km (15ish miles?) which on horseback would be 4-5 hours chill . long but not all day in an unsuspended cart. and still certainly not "Exhausting"