But now, thinking about this as a lack of being able to think about the consequences of doing the thing you don't presently want to do and how it will affect you later.... that's really eye opening.
I think literally everyone has this issue, though. Exercise for example makes us feel great, but we really have to remind ourselves of it or stay motivated in some way. The second we start, we realise how good of a decision it was. Over 50% of some countries are overweight, so at least 50% of people are suffering from ADHD here? Just like with procrastinating etc, if you've been worked into a good habit/routine throughout childhood and given an easy ride through all these very common human-pitfalls, you'll not have "ADHD" because making good decisions will be second nature. I had the complete opposite, so I've battled with all the things brought up in this thread, and I'm seeing things I've worked out being given as advice too. This is way too common to be a "disorder", no?
That's why I didn't bother and merely pointed out that you're doing the internet equivalent of putting dog shit on my step, knocking my door and running off. You just wasted both our times.
People that don't have ADHD procrastinate too. People that have ADHD aren't necessarily fat. (I'm not even clear on if that's what you were implying). ADHD isn't as common as it is diagnosed and is STILL rare. If the amount of people had a disorder that you are talking about, it wouldn't even be a disorder, it would be the norm. Keep in mind that ADHD isn't a 'disease', it's a set of criteria that your behavioural patterns have to match to justify a diagnosis.
Besides, I have ADHD while my younger sister doesn't, and while we were raised in the exact same way, she has many organisational habits that I simply can't implement into my life no matter how hard I try. It's like Dr Berkeley said, ADHD is the failure to implement that sort of knowledge.
(I'm not even clear on if that's what you were implying)
It was a reply to "After watching this video, I can absolutely get behind an idea that someone can have a complete mental inability to process consequence". Because it's an easy example, I'm saying that should mean that all fat people (who don't want to be fat and have tried diets a bunch of times) suffer from ADHD, or some other "deficit disorder" which makes them unable to make good choices or to implement knowledge they've acquired or process future consequence, so they can reject temptations and implement good habits. They get cravings etc and it goes out the window. They fail, it goes out the window. They get upset, it goes out the window. From my POV, these are just people with bad food habits and this behaviour is totally normal for humans. Almost everyone (unless [self]taught otherwise) has the same lack of ability, but some have healthy/healthier food habits and just naturally manage to not get themselves into such a situation.
Keep in mind that ADHD isn't a 'disease', it's a set of criteria that your behavioural patterns have to match to justify a diagnosis.
That's why I'm suspicious. Like I said, someone who has to go to a 9-5 job each day doesn't suffer from falling into all the pitfalls that people in r/entrepreneur do. They're always freaking out about their lack of ability to not just sit home jerking off all day and then hating themselves for it. Someone with healthy eating habits simply doesn't come near to the traps that someone with bad eating habits does. Their motivation/ability to kick bad/excessive food might be equally as bad but it doesn't matter because it doesn't even come up on the path they've been put on, so it's never an issue for them.
It's like Dr Berkeley said, ADHD is the failure to implement that sort of knowledge.
You've got to admit, this describes fat people so well. They know what to do, they just cant. People are scared of harmless spiders/bugs/rodents but they just can't pick one up. It's normal.
she has many organisational habits that I simply can't implement into my life no matter how hard I try.
Are you trying different methods rather than just harder? I know I've gotten infinitely better at this in the past few years. I even got my mom to improve tenfold by sharing what I've learned with her and showing her how to organise her life through planning, lists and schedules. She is/was a total shit brain, poster person for this disorder, and getting raised by her I of course was a poster person for it too. I was always late to everything, I never put in any effort, I daydreamed throughout the school day if I wasn't scared of the teacher. Never had any kind of routine. Homework was always done last minute. Never really worked towards anything. Didn't stick to anything.
Even if you have less of something that your sister has, surely drug-free improvement is possible?
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u/freshlysquosed May 30 '17
I think literally everyone has this issue, though. Exercise for example makes us feel great, but we really have to remind ourselves of it or stay motivated in some way. The second we start, we realise how good of a decision it was. Over 50% of some countries are overweight, so at least 50% of people are suffering from ADHD here? Just like with procrastinating etc, if you've been worked into a good habit/routine throughout childhood and given an easy ride through all these very common human-pitfalls, you'll not have "ADHD" because making good decisions will be second nature. I had the complete opposite, so I've battled with all the things brought up in this thread, and I'm seeing things I've worked out being given as advice too. This is way too common to be a "disorder", no?