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Discussion 5 rate cuts 😮

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u/CoughRock 1d ago

who's making these prediction for rate cut ? didn't jpowell explicitly said he's going to wait and see ?

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u/DPMKIV 1d ago

It's called a FED bailout...

It theoretically should ease the free fall to prevent an all-out crash.

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u/CoughRock 1d ago

adp non-farm report just came out. Much higher non-farm employment than predicted. We are screwed in term of rate cut. High unemployment and high core inflation gave jpowell easy excuse for pause rate and wait and see.

it's going to take a miracle to see rate cut now.

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u/DPMKIV 1d ago

We'll see what actually happens. I mean... they printed money when COVID hit to keep the US spending.

If this sell off starts triggering massive buying of off shore stocks due to unease in US stocks... they gotta do something to keep investors in US stocks.

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u/spookyswagg 1d ago

Ya, but inflation was at 2% then.

Inflation is predicted to rise this year, 4%, next year by >4%

Rate cuts now would just make that way worse…

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u/clapsandfaps 1d ago

Honestly do they have a choice?

Not to be a doomsayer, but with rising inflation (again) due to tariffs, probable layoffs due to reduced demand on american goods due to tariffs and combine that with high interest to fight the self-induced inflation, people will default, a lot. Even domesctically produced goods will be hit with inflation due to potash tariffs.

I’m seeing in my unqualified crystal ball, a depression happening.

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u/Massive-Opposite-705 1d ago

What the end goal if you print more money for a bail out just continue kicking the can down the road. It’s like we’re building a dam that gets weaker each renovation and gets more water behind it. The longer you keep repairing it with tape and sticks the bigger the flood will be when it collapses. Let pain hit when it is supposed to hit rather than pushing it to the next generation double

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u/Syab_of_Caltrops Dirty HODLer 1d ago

The US is a world champ can kicker. You underestimate this country's can kicking skills.

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u/onpg 1d ago

That worked because we were the world reserve currency. Something our Dear Leader is working very hard to end.

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u/Syab_of_Caltrops Dirty HODLer 1d ago

What's going to replace it, a BRICS currency? The Euro?

I'm not denying there's pressure on the Petro Dollar and there are strong efforts to create an alternative, but all those alternatives are laughable, even conaidering the upheaval at the moment.

Humans love creaming doom and gloom, but it almost never come to pass.

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u/onpg 1d ago edited 1d ago

How old are you? Curious. They were laughable. Until this week.

Edit: well, until Trump won re-election actually. Because after that all of this was kind of inevitable.

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u/Syab_of_Caltrops Dirty HODLer 1d ago

Well out of college.

But seriously, in what word do middle eastern countries trade crude in Euros, or Western countries trade crude in a currency backed by China or Russia?

Even if they were open to it, it would take much longer than any of Trump's emergency provisions will last.

Dude's gone completely off the rails, but you're catastrophizing if you think that transition will happen any time soon. The long view on this is still fine. That can change, but right now we have no clue how things will shape up.

EDIT: If Inwas a betting man (and I am, this is WSB), I'd say a lot of this will be challeneged and over turned by courts. And, at that point, I think the Trump admin will see it as a relief and a way to get out of a very bad position they've put themselves in.

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u/onpg 12h ago

You make compelling points. Hard to say. The administration has really married themselves to tariffs. Admitting a mistake of this magnitude is worse than the Afghanistan pullout. But yeah, the most optimistic end to this is the admin gives up on it sooner than later.

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u/highroller_rob 17h ago

Hot Take: Trump is working to replace the USD with bitcoin.

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u/corydoras_supreme 16h ago

Humans love creaming doom and gloom, but it almost never come to pass.

I dunno. My grandfather fought in WW2 and pretty much figured they were living through the apocalypse. That was two generations ago.

There's been a bubble of prosperity and relative security since that war. But this 70ish year period might be the outlier.

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