Warning: strong language below.
Earlier today I was walking back home from a friend’s house and I came across some people, probably about 15 to 25 of them, who were holding up signs that read, “God hates f**s”, “God hates you, sodomites, abortionists, drankards, just the way you are!”, “2 gay rights: AIDs and Hell”, “Homos are possessed by demons”, and stuff like that. Pretty strong wording on those signs. There was a guy yelling stuff thru a megaphone and people were handing out pamphlets to passers by.
I had the time and energy so I decided to stop and ask one of the demonstrators, “What made you come out here today?”, to which he told me that he believes “the country is going to s**t” and we “shouldn’t tolerate homosexuals” because “it isn’t natural” and how it’s “the most unforgivable sin in the Bible”. He whipped out his iPhone and showed me screenshots of Bible verses supporting his claims. I didn’t disclose that I (23 m) am a gay man, and I didn’t specifically ask him if he hated gay people, but after about five mins of talking I went on my way. It wasn’t a heated conversation at all between us two, I just wanted to know his perspective on things.
A few blocks down I’m approached by two missionaries. I thought this would be a great opportunity to get their perspective on things too. We introduced ourselves to each other before I told them about the demonstration I saw and I asked, “Does God really love everyone? Even killers, liars, cheaters, and gay people?”, the missionaries told me basically that God doesn’t hate sinners and that when Jesus was on Earth, He spent time with sinners, befriending them, not to join their sinful ways, but to present them the good news that forgiveness and eternal salvation is available.
I doubled down and asked, “Even killers? And gay people?”, and one of them very confidently said, “The message in the Bible is very simple: God loves everyone, and I mean everyone, and everyone can learn about the Word of God and be saved.”, then I mentioned the interaction I had with one of the demonstrators. I told the missionaries what the guy told me and what his lot of people were doing. The missionaries said that those, “demonstrators aren’t real Christians, because God would want Christians to spread the message of love and salvation and forgiveness and kindness. Not a message of hate and bigotry and division”.
I asked the missionaries very kindly if they have proof to back up their claims, and one of them whipped out a Bible from their bag and was flipping through bookmarks showing me verses that supported their (the missionaries) claims and squashed the demonstrators’ claims, showing me passages that basically talked about how Jesus was a friend to Sinners and how God wants Christians to be kind and spread love.
Now I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and stuff. But it got me thinking, there were two groups of people claiming to be Christians: 1. the anti-gay demonstrators that I approached, and 2. the missionaries that approached me. Both groups had stark differences in what they believed and what message they were trying to convey.
I’m not a religious person. I’ve been to a Church once in the past by myself for fun and it was pretty chill, but I’ve never been back. I’m happy where I am in terms of religion and spirituality and stuff and I’m not looking to be converted, but I do like to appreciate and support human diversity in all its rich and wonderful forms by asking questions, engaging in conversations, and learning new things.
You guys are the experts in this.
Why do you think there was such a stark difference between the two groups in the beliefs they had and the messages they were trying to share?
Which group was “right” and which one was “wrong”?
Why do you think this division exists in the realm of Christianity, if the message in the Bible is, according to the missionaries: to simply spread love and not hate?
This is my first time posting in r/Christianity. If this isn’t allowed here, please let me know and direct me to a more appropriate community(!) because I’m genuinely interested in learning more about what religious folks on Reddit think of this