Are they changing retirement annuities? Will the people on DRP get stuck with a lesser package? For anyone 62 with years be better off to just retire the conventional way not to take the Nigerian prince offer? I had wanted to wait two years til I got stateside since OCONUS return is complicated from Korea

For the people that accepted the DRP, how long did it take to get the document in docusign? I’m waiting on mine still. I submitted my application on Thursday.

I’m curious to know if any of the DOGE employees are working remote/teleworking? I wonder how we could find out…🤔

Finally on my way to DC protest beneath the Washington Momument Saturday at Noon. Have plenty of American flags to pass out. Let’s make this national protest gigantic. Only speaker I know about is Jamie Raskin. Maybe AOC or Bernie will show up???

Hey all,

Like thousands of other feds right now, I'm staring down the DRP deadline (Monday at 11:59pm) and going back and forth constantly. Feels weird even posting about it, but honestly, keeping this all bottled up is worse, and I figure this community gets it.

Background: Been with my agency since 2010, worked my way up from admin assistant to just below exec level, now managing AI tech and business intelligence. Agency even put me through ML training (which was awesome).

The dilemma: Take the DRP (admin leave with full pay until EOY, but commit to resigning) or gamble on avoiding the RIF?

My situation:

• Financial concerns: Limited savings, supporting myself plus my parents' mortgage
• Team loyalty: I genuinely care about my team and hate the thought of "abandoning" them
• 2009 PTSD: Graduated during the Great Recession, seeing similar economic warning signs now

If I decline DRP: Best case - no RIF for me, continue career. Worst case - surprise RIF with no backup plan.

If I take DRP: Best case - find new job quickly, double-dip pay for a while. Worst case - no new job, would've kept my position anyway, unemployment in October.

There's this one company I'd love to work for (tech and mission I really respect), but no guarantee they'd hire me. I've thought about wild alternatives too - returning to military (not happening at 41), law enforcement, even bartending with my questionable mixing skills.

I recognize I'm probably dealing with some depression alongside this professional uncertainty, and maybe viewing any change as an escape. Looking back, my big life decisions tend to lead to regret one way or another.

How's everyone else dealing with this decision? Anything anyone is willing to share?

I feel like this is a dumb question but if you take DRP are you still able to defer retirement until you hit MRA? I have 20 years in but too young to take VERA. I have a private sector job lined up I was thinking about taking and the timing of DRP 2.0 works well.

To all those 'my tax dollars pay your salary' haters, I am providing a link to contract data reports that list tax dollar obligations that have gone into the private industry per fiscal year. Feel free to browse the president's previous term years.

Well, as a federal worker and fellow taxpayer, it appears that not only have my taxpayer dollars gone towards paying myself to work and serve the country just to be traumatized, dehumanized, harassed and demeaned by fellow citizens in my country and it's current leaders but they also have helped pay the salaries of many working in the private industry.

Yes, the same amount of taxes come out of my paycheck just as anyone else. Odds are federal workforce haters didn't whine about government waste when these checks were cashed.

Here is a link to contract data static reports on Sam.gov:

https://sam.gov/reports/awards/static

Scroll to the middle of the page to view Small Business Goaling Reports (FY 2005-2023) with the Top 100 Contractors Reports Section which shows dollars obligated per company immediately to follow. There are several tabs of data in each report.

Can someone please explain it to me ? Can I opt in, take my 45 days to decide and possibly still rescind within the 45 day window ?

Updated question based on responses: So can I opt in, wait 45 days to sign agreement, and then have another 7 days after that to change my mind and rescind signed agreement ?

And at the same time I could be rif’d during this waiting period ?

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So after hearing as much as I could between the connection lagging the acting administrator said that there were no RIFs planned but he also wasn’t saying it isn’t off the table dependent upon the DRP, VERA and VSIP. So what are your thoughts on should we still be holding our breath and waiting or exhale a little? My gut tells me that RIFs might begin again late April but that’s just a wild guess. Would love to know what others in PBS have heard………any tea to spill????

If you're busy during the day, if you can mostly fill an 8 hour day 5 days a week, and your job benefits the United States and it's citizens, why are you concerned? If you can't fill those basic things then why are you being paid?

I don’t want to just post the same question as others are, but I haven’t seen my situation on here yet. I’m a probationary Term employee with the DOD, so two out of three strikes should there be a RIF. I have four months left before the end of my probation. I’m a veteran but not disabled. And I’m not mission critical.

DOD isn’t likely to RIF as hard as other agencies, but if they do I’m the first one gone.

I have a mortgage and young kids in daycare.

It’s pretty obvious I should take the DRP, right? I’d get no severance in a RIF and my state’s unemployment is pretty low. The economy where I’m at is ok for now. My main reservation is that I love my job.

Just heard officially the DHS DRP2.0 coming between now and Sunday. SES source. Heard it's going to all sub agencies. Don't know of exemptions.

Based on the computation, unless an employee has 20 years or more in service taking the VSIP isn’t even worth it and adds further restrictions on future employment…. Computation to Severance pay is on OPM.gov and is a bit long but the numbers SUCK!

Computation of voluntary separation incentive pay:

• VSIP Calculation:The VSIP payment is determined by comparing two amounts and taking the smaller one: 
◦ Amount 1: The amount of severance pay the employee would be entitled to receive under 5 U.S.C. 5595(c). 
◦ Amount 2: An amount determined by the agency head, but not exceeding $25,000. 
• Severance Pay Calculation (5 U.S.C. 5595(c)):Severance pay is calculated as one week's basic pay for each year of civilian service and other factors.
• Example:

If an employee is entitled to $3,000 in severance pay under 5 U.S.C. 5595(c), but the agency head determines the VSIP to be $2,000, the VSIP payment would be $2,000 (the lesser amount). 

USGS term employee. The DRP email we got today said that "permanent" full time employees can take the new offer. That would exclude term employees right? But apparently someone in HR is saying we can take it. Now I'm all sorts of confused. Anyone know what the rule is?

Wondering if folks who took deferred resignation are having any issues getting paid or with their benefits? As DRPs are opening up again with individual agencies, inquiring minds want to know!

I know DRP 1.0 seems to working as people were promised and now in my agency we have one week to decide and will be put on admin the same day the offer closes. I want to take it but I can’t shake the feeling DRP 1.0 was a judas goat and once 2.0 is done the rug is going to be pulled out from both 1 and 2. Anyone thinking this? I would need to get another job if I took and will not make more in the private or state sector.

I had posted earlier to see if anyone could confirm that RIFed employees will receive or are receiving severance pay. I will have a follow-up on that at the end of this post, but there were several questions in the original comments about where to find information about severance pay and how to calculate it. Thanks to at least one redditor for providing links in the comments, too!

In any event, I thought I would make a new post to share that directly--with apologies if I missed another one and am needlessly rehashing

1. Most federal HR systems should have a calculator or estimator buried on them somewhere--at USDA the auto-calculator is buried towards the bottom of a page for retirement tools.

2. See the OPM website at https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/severance-pay. At first it feels like a bit of an arcane formula, but at its most basic it really only requires three pieces of information:

• your birthday (really only in you are over 40...)
• your Service Computation Date (Box 31 on your SF50)
• your average weekly salary for the last year (your current one from your last leave and earnings statement should work fine, though it might be a slight overestimate if you have had a within-grade step increase in the last year).

There are also opportunities to factor in additional variables like military service. The OPM website above also links to a worksheet to walk through the calculations at https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/severance-pay-estimation-worksheet/

As for concerns, I am indeed nervous that the powers that be might aim for impossibly tight and ill-timed turnarounds on a, "reasonable offer," that--if you fail to accept it--would preclude you from receiving severance. Thoughts there are welcome as well...

Am I crazy? I been hearing a lot lately about Tesla Bots, that work in Tesla Factories right now, and getting better every days.That these bots are supposed to start replacing factories workers, shipping dock workers and wearhouse workers. They are reason people still have Tesla Stocs and that the workers industry is 10x bigger that car industry.

Apperantly, Elon secret gaol with DOGE was to cripple federal government, so we would not be able to oppose him in future with his Bot worker takeover. Bernie idea of factories owners paying 30% of the workers salaries to workers that are will be replaced by these bots scared Elon. So he wanted to ensure government will not be able to propose and enforce that.

What do you guys think? In the end it is all about money and control.