r/Libertarian 4h ago

Discussion Libertarians who voted Trump — any regrets now?

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Genuinely curious, not trying to start a fight. I know a lot of us held our noses and voted for Trump because, at the time, he seemed like the lesser evil or at least not a warmonger.

But now it’s like… what the hell?

We’ve got a 104% tariff on Chinese goods. I thought we were about free markets and less government interference, not this protectionist crap that makes everything more expensive for regular people.

Then you’ve got the U.S. bombing the Houthis like we’re back in the 2000s. Still tangled up in the Middle East, still wasting money and lives on stuff we shouldn’t be involved in. Where’s the “America First, not the world’s police” energy?

Israel-Palestine’s getting uglier by the day, and the U.S. is still just blindly backing one side. Ukraine and Russia? Still dragging on, nothing fixed there either. It’s like all the foreign policy promises just went poof.

So I gotta ask — anyone else feeling kinda duped? Or are you still all-in?


r/Libertarian 14h ago

End Democracy Please do not feed the Military Industrial Complex

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r/Libertarian 5h ago

End Democracy Elon reposting ZeroHedge is also amazing

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r/Libertarian 16h ago

Politics Is this Libertarian?

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I saw this and thought it would spark a nice discussion. I’ve had my fill of tariff and protest talk for a bit.


r/Libertarian 15h ago

Current Events Trump promises $1 trillion in defense spending for next year

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r/Libertarian 6h ago

Politics Jones act opinions

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As a US mariner, that recently discovered libertarianism and have many beliefs in line with ideas of libertarianism. What is the general consensus on the Jones Act with y'all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920


r/Libertarian 17h ago

Politics Israel Killed 14-Year-Old US Citizen in West Bank

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r/Libertarian 3h ago

End Democracy What is your favorite freedom?

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Double points if it's one that no longer exists in the USA or the world. As a younger libertarian sometimes it feels like I've already been conditioned to accept so many injustices because it's "always been that way". Would be nice to see what was lost before my time.


r/Libertarian 6h ago

Economics Can somebody explain Milton Friedman's argument to me?

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To start with I have not read any of Friedman's work and am not familiar with a lot of his views, but I recently came across this video where he discusses free trade and tariffs, my issue is specifically with this part of the argument (emphasis by me):

"Let us suppose for a moment that the Japanese flood us with steel that will reduce employment in the American steel industry no doubt however it will increase employment elsewhere in America we will pay for that steel with dollars what will the Japanese do with the dollars they get for the steel they aren't going to burn them they aren't going to tear them up if they would that would be best of all because there's nothing we can produce more cheaply than green pieces of paper and if they were willing to send us steel and just take back green pieces of paper I can't imagine a better deal but they're not going to do that they're not stupid they're smart people they're going to use those dollars to buy goods and services they're going to spend them in the process of spending them they may spend them directly in the United States then that directly provides employment in the United States things they may spend them in Brazil or in Germany or in China or anywhere else but whoever gets them in turn is going to spend them so the dollars that we spend for the steel will find their way back to the us as demand for U.S. goods and services you will have less employment in the steel industry you will have more employment in the industries producing the goods we export"

How did he come to the conclusion that they'd spend the money on specifically other goods and services made in the United States? He says the word "may" initially but later asserts it more definitively as so. Let's say the Japanese spend their money in China or wherever, like Friedman said, who's to say the people in China won't buy commodities from their own countries or countries other than the United States that make it for cheaper?

Also, what are the limits of this approach? The idea here is basically that sacrificing the U.S. steel industry is well and good because it benefits the consumers (since the steel would be cheaper) which sort of makes sense but the argument that it would create a net positive of jobs in other sectors seems to be of limited value, because it's based on the (seemingly baseless) assumption that foreigners will buy more goods and services from the U.S., but what if a foreign country also intrudes on these other industries producing commodities in America that supposedly saw job growth with cheaper alternatives? What other industries aside from steel is it a-okay to sacrifice because other commodity-production industries will do better? What if there's no productive industries to see a net positive in job gains from anymore because foreign companies keep flooding the market in these "safe" industries with far cheaper alternatives? If we grant the U.S. steel industry collapsing might give to a rise of jobs in printer manufacturing in America or whatever since foreigners with more money would buy printers specifically from America, what happens when that same industry that saw job growth also get overrun with say cheaper printers? At a certain point wouldn't the country just be sacrificing various industries and the argument that it would benefit some other industry stop holding water since they might be able to make cheaper versions of whatever else they can think of in the new "safe" industry it shifts to?

My final issue is that even if job growth is seen in other industries I feel like this might sort of create antagonisms between people with vastly different skills or have different areas of expertise. If it's fine to sacrifice the U.S. steel industry because it might create more jobs in the printer manufacturing industry, it creates a sort of instability/volatility/job insecurity that at any moment one's industry might be thrown to the wolves (foreign companies) and the only people who'll see benefits are people trained in vastly different areas of expertise or people who live closer to regions with industries that saw job growth, rendering their specific expertise (like of people who worked in steel mills) they trained years for/paid for useless and requiring them to do like double the work to gain new expertise in the fields that saw job growth though the cycle might repeat again even when they enter into the new "safe" industry. I feel like this might create a stark divide or hostility between people working in different environments (i.e if people working in industrial jobs in urban areas are made superfluous because of cheaper commodities from abroad, but rural farmers get a boost because foreigners now buy more American fruit, that just feels like an area of unnecessary stratification/polarization/inequality despite all of them doing important and similarly laborious work. )

Looking forward for any answers to my questions or for anybody to point out errors in my thinking or add onto it.


r/Libertarian 1d ago

Current Events Police in England and Wales make 30 arrests a day for offensive online messages

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r/Libertarian 17h ago

Politics Israel Bombs Palestinian Journalists, Killing Two

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r/Libertarian 21h ago

Philosophy How realistic is true freedom in a world built on convenience?

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Lately, I’ve been thinking about how much of modern life trades personal freedom for comfort. We’ve got smart homes, automatic subscriptions, centralized apps, and endless ways to automate our lives. But every layer of convenience seems to come with a cost. Whether it’s data privacy, financial dependency, or reliance on institutions we may not fully trust.

As libertarians, we talk a lot about reducing government control, but I wonder if we ignore how easily we hand over personal autonomy to corporations, platforms, or even just habits that make us dependent?


r/Libertarian 1d ago

“Tariffs Are Pushing Allies Into China’s Arms…and China is sitting back and smiling.” —Simon Black

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r/Libertarian 1d ago

Economics Devaluing the US Dollar: How to Make America Poorer Again

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r/Libertarian 17h ago

Politics The Economics and Ethics of Vouchers and Free Market Education

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r/Libertarian 2d ago

Meme Prices, they are a rising

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r/Libertarian 17h ago

Politics Sam Harris Continues to Embarrass Himself | Part Of The Problem 1250

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r/Libertarian 2d ago

Economics A Tariff is just another sales tax

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I have been trying to explain to my coworkers what a tariff is. I came up with this. You buy a car and you have to pay sales tax on all the parts that go into that car. Then you get to pay sales tax, license plates. That car is going to cost more.
You buy a computer, you get the luxury of paying a tax on all the parts that go into it. Then your local municipality hits you with a sales tax.
They will tell you it’s not inflation but it costs more. Will they really get rid of income tax, I doubt it. My opinion is if the tariff goes down, you won’t see the price go down.
Now fire away tell me how my analogy is wrong.
Enjoy.


r/Libertarian 1d ago

Politics Escalating an Unwinnable War

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r/Libertarian 17h ago

Economics Could tariffs bring back the gold standard?

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Serious question, not trying to discuss the merits of tariffs - what prevents other countries from buying gold/silver from the US to "balance" the trade deficits. I realize that we may not be leading producers, but it seems like we might be setting up metals (or other fungible commodities like oil) to replace the dollar as a reserve currency. After purchase they could be sold right back onto the market without actual product movement. Futures would just turn into a shell game to balance the trade deficit and avoid tariffs and some investment houses make an arbitrage off the back and forth.

Edit: Not suggesting the US switching to the gold standard, rather the rest of the world shifting their reserve currency to gold or some other fungible commodities since USD as a reserve currency is going to trigger tarrifs.


r/Libertarian 2d ago

End Democracy “Tariffs are good until they affect me.”

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r/Libertarian 1d ago

Philosophy What do you all think about Objectivism? The Philosophy of Ayn Rand.

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I recently read both Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead and found them quite interesting. I’m curious to see the people’s opinions in this sub (considering people often compare Libertarian’s with Objectivists)! Do you consider your beliefs similar, or are you avidly against Objectivism? If so, why?


r/Libertarian 2d ago

End Democracy Currencies need competition, yet governments have monopoly power over currencies.

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r/Libertarian 3d ago

End Democracy President Kennedy’s opinion on military generals

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r/Libertarian 2d ago

Question I have a question about libertarianism.

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As I understand, in the ideology of libertarianism, a person can use untouched natural resources, and consider what he gets to be his property. Let's say someone has built a large factory, and it pollutes all the nature around, but it is untouched, nobody's land. Rivers, forests, and fields are polluted. Many such factories are being built and nature is being polluted, but, again, those lands that do not belong to anyone. Is libertarians ok with it? English isn't my native