They see me chargin'
They laughin'
They lol'ing and tryna catch me missin'
Tryna catch me missin'
Tryna catch me missin'
Tryna catch me missin'
Tryna catch me missin'
My charge's so strong
I'm swingin'
They hope that they gon' watch me missin'
They gon' watch me missin'
They gon' watch me missin'
They gon' watch me missin'
They watchin' me missin'
Everybody worrying about losing offset attacks, meanwhile I'm only worried about losing my beloved shoulder bash aka the only reason I ever land attacks 😭
First I’m gonna charge slash ‘em. Then I’ll follow that up with a charge slash. After that I’ll charge slash ‘em, to mix things up a bit. And then after that? Another charge slash, they’ll never see it coming.
I love upward swing parrys so much, it's my favorite new mechanic in Wilds next to the monster clash. It's like that ratatouille scene with the reviewer, but instead of mom's cooking being in the flashback, it's Karok from Vindictus
Hammer got done dirty this time around. GS gets both clashes and offsets, and the offsets feel "too hard" because of how easy it is to just go for the perfect guard (you can do it purely on reaction, no need to hard read, if you do it too early you'll just do a regular block which actually rocks this time around). Hammer has to work way harder just for the offset, its offset is so much harder than on GS even though GS has an even better option.
And GS actually uses the slinger hook to close the distance to land its follow up attack. Hammer has to waste a ton of time hoofing it to wherever the monster got knocked back, meaning hammer can't actually make much use of its own knockdown, making it all kinda eh in solo play.
The problem is they just repurposed certain moves as offset attacks. Greatsword is so good because their offset attack is just one of their regular options. I can pull that swing out of anywhere.
From my understanding, the Hammer offset is part of a combo chain, which makes it virtually impossible to pull off (for folks who aren't top 1% players). Absolutely insane design choice. One of those moments that makes me take a step back and wonder how smart someone else because of how obviously bad that idea is.
It's the golf swing, but they added the ability to hold it. So you can slam, slam, golf swing and keep the button held to wait for an attack for a few seconds, then let it fly - it's definitely a lot higher barrier to entry than GS, but that ability to keep it primed, in my opinion, lowers the barrier a lil bit while also raising the skill ceiling for those who are more accustomed to the weapon. I might be biased cause me love hammer
You're right but you can hold down the button on the offset to hold it for a good 5-6 seconds to actually time the parry correctly so it's not a total gamble. Especially because you are still doing a damage combo that you can hold a parry or keep doing more damage instead depending on what the monster does.
Hammer is always a counterattack weapon first so even though it's not perfect it works and is satisfying to land.
As a Lance Main in Rise and all of the story of Wilds but wanting to learn Hammer since 3, I finally picked postgame of Wilds to do it and lemme say... You're gonna eat a lot of shit, but slowly but surely, those "oh yeah I meant to do that"s will gradually become more and more honest.
Amusingly, I picked up and am enjoying lance in Wilds after not really grabbing my attention in Worlds and Rise.. so moving from my comfort zone of Hammer helped a bit haha
Best description honestly! Definitely not the only time I'm yelling while using GS, that wound pop attack where you slide the blade along the monster is also so fucking satisfying, especially when you keep popping leg wounds and knocking the monster down and getting a TCS for free on loop lmao.
I kept telling my friends on day 1 when I gave GS a chance at the very beginning: "between focus allowing you to massively change directoon of swings and upward slash parrys, THEY MADE GS ACTUALLY SUPER FUN IN THIS GAME!" It's just infinitely less frustrating to use in Wilds tbh
For real, GS is so fucking satisfying in Wilds. Offsets and a proper blocking makes the weapon so fun to use. Not to mention focus mode to make every TCS count. Damn i want to play more GS...
Nothing will top the Karok animation where he grabs a Vampire and folds their spine backwards down the middle and punts their body away. That game is an insanely good game trapped in a shitty pay 2 win ecosystem
Apparently they are working on a single player/coop story focused recreation of the game, which could be very interesting if it winds up not being the monetization disaster that the original game turned into.
Edit: I was wrong on the coop party. It's something they said they want to add after launch, but it's initially just going to be single player.
It's kinda funny how if they just made that game a co-op buy to play game, it would essentially just match monster Hunter at its own game. You have a bunch of very diverse weapons and playstyles, and you go out and kill stuff to build armor and weapons out of their parts. Hell, the combat even feels extremely similar at times. Monster Hunter is the only game that really matches the level of satisfying combat that you got from there.
Apparently they are working on a single player story focused recreation of the game, which could be very interesting if it winds up not being the monetization disaster that the original game turned into.
They said they aim to eventually add coop multiplayer back in, but it seems like they are turning it into more of a dark souls or monster Hunter style game than an MMO.
I genuinely can't imagine playing a weapon that doesn't have Offset now, it's so damn good. I also want to make a viable Doshaguma's Might build, because +25 Atk for 3 minutes is CRAZY.
I was really tempted by Jin Dahaad's set bonus, but the internal cooldown on Clash and the fact some monsters don't have it is a bit of a sour note.
It's so funny that the upward swing went from a joke of a move to a core part of the GS kit. Same with guarding. Really feels like the moveset has evolved naturally.
GS definitely had the biggest glow up out of the weapons by far, and that's saying a lot because a lot of weapons got some amazing improvements. I usually have trouble deciding what weapon to play but it's even worse this time because they made them all so fun to play this time around. I even played a ton of SnS and I usually never touch that weapon.
You're missing out on clashes and shrugging off most hits in the game. Plus you can use offensive guard for an attack boost since perfect guards have a very wide window. You can EASILY tank Arkvelds massive multi hit move by blocking.
You can make it through just fine spamming TCS but learning to use block, offset and charge makes you a nearly unstoppable force of nature.
God I just did the Hirabami quest and laughed at their suggestion to use dung pods. Fuck that, I'm reverse jumping these motherfuckers. Went 3-on-1 the entire quest and I'm disappointed I couldn't kill all three at the same time. I was even trying to game out their health.
The super armor, the offset, wound breaks into TCS, all of it feels so goddamn good. I was laughing manically the entire time because I felt untouchable. Almost carted at one point because I had forgotten about my health bar while wading through the hits without flinching. GS is the best it's ever been.
You can essentially parry monster attacks and even get power struggles triggered that way.
You can also block the entirety of nu udras fire breath for you and teammates behind you.
You can make monsters fly back with the offset sometimes getting a knockdown, and the offset is followed by a fast catch up attack and you can then get a three charge TCS off of it.
Guarding is so good, it comes out so fast and means you don’t have to reposition if you’re already in an optimal spot. There’s also the Perfect Guard focus cancel, which feels awesome and really boosts your damage output. Not to mention offensive guard is one of the biggest damage increase decos you can run.
Perfect block, tackle and offset give you something else to do, and they're awesome when timed right. Why dodge when you can just tank the hit and keep swinging?
I haven't gotten the hang of the offset attack timing, but perfect guards are pretty easy. It also feels to me like guarding doesn't damage your sharpness as much as it did in world, which helps a lot.
Block doesn't use nearly as much sharpness as it did before and the chip damage is much more negligible, it comes out basically instantly and it's very easy to get a perfect guard which essentially negates both chip damage and sharpness loss. It's superior to dodging defensively (though dodges are still necessary for cancelling endlag), though you can dodge and then immediately go into a block for extra safety or to reposition to hope for a power clash if you've got a teammate who's gonna cart if you don't.
You can also work charged offset slashes into your combos to slap around the monster when it won't let you finish your TCS combo, extremely useful against faster hitting monsters. If you just spam it (the damage isn't bad compared to your other non-TCS options), you'll often land parries without even trying.
There's just a ton more depth to the GS moveset now, though the overall skill ceiling is lower since being able to aim your TCS means there's much less of a need to manipulate the AI to be in a precise position for TCS spam - which, IMO, is a good thing overall, I don't think that kind of AI manipulation is good for selling that these monsters are living, unpredictable animals.
I can't believe I forgot that. Focus mode does SOOO much for the GS. I miss significantly less hits now and am able to reposition for better hit placement. Also it makes landed TCS on sleeping monsters way easier.
I noticed that too. I tested that issue. Here's the problem: focus mode MOVES your swing a few degrees each swing. By the time you're on the TCS you're about 20⁰ farther over than you started.
The key to sleeping TCS is to NOT use focus mode until the final swing. Once you've landed swing 3 of 4, turn on focus mode and whip the cursor to the monster.
You can test this by going to the training area and watching the lines in the sand your weapon makes. No focus mode= no unintended movement. Focus mode= 20⁰ of movement.
I'm honestly getting so much out of Focus mode I haven't even really bothered to try and incorporate the offset and spins into my game yet; just playing an evolved hit'n'run
Once you start landing offsets and clashes you'll feel like a god and be chasing that high in every fight. Denying a monster during its big attack is an amazing feeling.
Make fun of me for being slow and relying on one attack for all my damage? You're gonna change your tune real quick when I save your bacon and drop 500 damage all in one fell swoop.
Focus mode also increases the range of attacks. I was having a lot of trouble with wake up hits at first. I was using the Worldborn strategy of rolling away, but that first hit kept making contact!
That's when I realized that holding focus actually makes your attacks go farther! Ive started using it to try and close gaps when i can tell my swing isn't close enough and I'm getting some value out of it!
Essentially a counter. press triangle and circle on PlayStation and you can counter a monsters physical move (long range and elemental moves don't work) and get off a TCS for free
After landing your TCS try rolling immediately after. It'll remove the "cool down" and you can snap into a block immediately after. This'll let you stop the monster from smacking you after!
If you hold a direction while blocking you also skip most of the recovery frames. It's pretty much as good as rolling out. Most of the time I get instant perfect guards after landing TCS, it's pretty neat.
Yeah, you should be rolling out of your last hits, whether its first, second or TCS. I like to play with crit draw and quick sheathe skills because it makes me much less greedy- that first hit full charge becomes the money-maker
My play style is based on aggro. If I have aggro, I'm looking to offset, force a clash, or bust wounds. If I don't have aggro I'm going for a TCS since I should have the time for it.
Trying to TCS with a monster staring you down is asking to get hit.
Alternatively you can use traps, flash a monster out of the sky, or try to proc sleep/paralysis(have your palico ALWAYS use the lala barina stun weapons) to make landing a TCS easier.
If all u do is straight up the standard 3 charge attacks yes. But I'm a gs main I don't just true charge spam. u lose out on all your damage doing it which is poor use of the greatsword. I use jumping wide slash and strong wide slash depending on the situation because it comes out faster then a true charge.
The use of GS is pretty simple but because you are so goddam slow, you need to be more careful. Positioning, timing and dodging is important because one swing at the wrong moment and you hit nothing or worse, you're wide open for a big attack.
Yeah, true mashing of this attack (which I'm very guilty of) gets you into that True Charged Slash animation that takes forever. You can be fucked if you don't aim/time it well, especially in a narrow area.
Also, I like working in tackles, which makes it a bit more interesting.
It's funny because people's experience with this weapon is just mash whatever and you'll be fine.
But there's so many little things that help push your DPS to become an absolute beast. Low skill floor, high skill ceiling. SNS has come far from being Jack of All Trades in Wilds.
Not my guide, but definitely credit to u/dragonbronze and the collaborative efforts of BK, Mopop, Hungrydave, and Visby posted on that front page of the guide
It's like pure choice fatigue. I always get in trouble overthinking it. I'm sure you get into a flow eventually, but you really never get locked out of anything in SNS, so always so many choices.
GS definitely leaves you more vulnerable if you don't know the monster well. But I think there are a lot of weapons that are pretty beginner friendly these days. SNS, GS, LS, DB, Hammer, Bow, even Lance aren't too difficult to get the basics of.
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u/alexagogo 16d ago
They doubled our buttons this year. We got two now.