r/MonsterHunter 2d ago

Meme It isn't that easy now is it?

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u/SFWxMadHatter 2d ago

Yeah, that's the fucking point. We want the hard fights.

When meme shitters miss the entire point:

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u/HvyMetalComrade 2d ago

Exactly. HR Zho Shia is how all the Apexs should have been imo.

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u/Nexii801 2d ago

Tempered apexes at least.

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 2d ago

You think? Because I think Zho Shia is everything that went wrong with this franchise.

Like counterstrike playstyles? Too bad, here's an explosion after 90% of the attacks.

Evading and countering? Hm, how about we put an aoe the size of Arizona on most attacks?

So.... what remains? The most inane tactic in MH history: seek for the blindspot and attack, attack, attack... terrific.

The thing I'm nostalgic about MHFU is dancing with Nargacuga, not cheesing Akantor.

But that's just me. 💀

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u/Anonymous_GuineaPig 2d ago

I can't lie to you, I play SnS, and I've had no issues evading, countering and parrying. You might just be bad. Zoh is not the only monster to have follow-up explosions and it's not hard to i-frame through it.

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u/Fake_Procrastination 2d ago

Seems like someone needs to get good, wilds is so easy that when you have to actually try feels impossible

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 2d ago

Seems like someone is iliterate enough to read "This is bad desing" and equate it to "This is hard".

Whatever you say, kid.

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u/Fake_Procrastination 1d ago

I think that the word you were looking for was ignorant, like you are being right now, If I was illiterate I wouldn't be able to read in the first place, of course you can turn the opinions of different people into one massive blob that suits your needs whenever you want to change the argument but it does make you look like an ignorant

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 1d ago

Sure.

Edit: on second thought, if you don't want me to turn your shit into a blob, maybe use paragraphs.

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u/Alexsillyears 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah, I'm not sure what you mean here either. I'm a hammer guy without any evade skills and I hangout by the head and there's still a lot of hit and run and Evasion tactics to be found. Recognizing the moves and knowing when to roll, when to hit, when to dive, and when to run, plus pretty big warnings of physical attacks that are fun to offset. For me it feels like fighting in a perpetual meteor shower

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 2d ago

I'll take a Narga or a Zinogre over this any day. 🤷

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u/Alexsillyears 2d ago

Fair, I've just played a LOT of MH (every game since Dos) so I'm kinda tapped out of Narga and Zinogre, and Zoh Shia felt fresh and super fun for me, especially as a solo player

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 2d ago

I dunno, feels Akantor or Ukanlos, get out of ground zero, attack, that's more or less what it is.

Rey Dau will be the one for me, I feel it's one of the best monsters in the game as of now. Maybe the best.

Mizutsune is OK, I guess.

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u/Drakepenn 2d ago

Have you tried shooting the Wylk crystals, my man? I'm SnS and find the fight fun and challenging.

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 2d ago

I'm not finding it neither fun nor challenging, but again, that's me. 🤷

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u/Nevergettingalife 2d ago

I kinda see your point. Zho shia is an alright challenge but it is mostly aoe explosion spam. I hope this isn’t telling of future monsters. I don’t want them to slap on explosions to every fight just to make it a challenge. They really need to limit players more. Overall zho shia left less of an impact on me than the original lr version. Though I do wish he was even more agressive with his size, you can just be an ankle biter and he can’t do shit for the most part which is kinda sad.

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u/Maleficent-Bar6942 1d ago

Exactly, stay out of the boom zone and that's it.

That and deal with the nuke transition phase, that's all there is to it.

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u/Rainbolt 2d ago

I cannot understand why people on this subreddit post garbage like this. Like, they're personally offended people want harder content in the game.

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u/whosmansisthis24 2d ago

Dude I have been shredded on here and on my alt for saying this game is way, wayyy wayyyy too easy. Mind you, I did it in a very polite and non negative way.

I said "this game feels incredible and looks amazing but it's far too easy. I worry about what they will be able to do to save face and make it a challenge because if tempered HR feels like this then G rank or deviants are still gonna be childs play".

I dealt with so much hate. People literally PMing me to insult me lol. Fucking wild. I never even had to make a build. I am still wearing rarity 4 armor, I only have 2 weapons I used (upgraded one of them max). I never even bothered using armor spheres. I have never even bothered going out in the environment to gather anything. The game plays itself.

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u/Rainbolt 2d ago

This is basically how I feel. I've not had to play out builds at all, never used armor spheres, no need for ancient potions or drugs. It's a bummer honestly. Haven't tried the new stuff yet but it seems a step in the right direction, but I just wanna go back to GU at this point.

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u/whosmansisthis24 2d ago

Hell, even world was fine with me.

I even enjoyed Rise after some updates. It was a bit too easy for most the content, but it was still fun with the grind, gameplay loop and the bit of challenge end game.

What's crazy is I have never even been great at Monster Hunter lmfao. I never soloed furious Rajang in world (he was easy AF in rise) never solod Raging Brach, never beat Fatalis or Altreon!

Like, I am not good at this game. No reason my hunts are 6-15 minutes (absolutely max 15 when I'm fucking around and messing with new mechanics or new weapons I'm not comfortable with)

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u/Maguiver73 2d ago

Base rise didn’t have endgame content tho there wasn’t even any elder dragons except for narwa and Ibushi

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u/whosmansisthis24 2d ago

Agreed. Base rise was pretty boring. I still got beat down at a few parts until I learned some monster patterns.

By beat down, I certainly don't mean it took me very long, but still more of a challenge.

Admittedly I also felt like rise was too easy too. Just not as easy.

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u/Maguiver73 2d ago

Yep and it’s the same formula for wilds it gets harder after every update and then it gets even harder when g rank comes capcom has been doing the same shit for years now this is how I see it LR is easy mode, HR is normal mode, and MR is hard mode

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u/whosmansisthis24 2d ago

No I definitely agree with. My issue is how absurdly easy HR tempered was. HR tempered was 2x easier then end of LR hunts in world. That's where my gripe lies.

Sure, future content will tune up the difficulty some, but my anxiety lies in how absurdly easy the content is that my fear is if tempered HR die in 8 minutes without even upgraded gear I was afraid that it would take G rank devient+++ to add a level of challenge.

With that being said im currently ignorant about current state of the game because I haven't played the update. I am probably going to skip it for later updates in hopes that when I come back there's enough of a challenge for me to feel the need to get better and crank out builds to win some of the more challenging content.

Everyone plays games for different reasons and has their own things they like. What I like about monster hunter is the never ending laundry list of things I need to do :"I need to hunt blank for more pieces to hopefully complete my build. X is a difficult fight I'm struggling on so let's work on getting his pattern down a bit better. I need to eventually kill monster Y so let's go make a weapon that is the element it's weak against. I have to beat this blank monster to get said weapon but he's a bit of challenge so now I need to go grind some consumables for the biggest advantage I can come up with"

I haven't felt any of that being able to easily kill every monster with weak gear and no specific build.

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u/Maguiver73 2d ago

Honestly my take on it is that it’s gonna be easier because of game mechanics not that monster are scaled any differently the reason you think it’s easier is because you have knowledge of how monster hunter games work plus the new mechanics in wilds and G rank will definitely be harder because that’s where most of the challenging fights are gonna be

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u/Complete_Elephant240 2d ago edited 2d ago

You might be getting downvoted because it sounds like you are trying to brag for internet epeen by saying the game is "way, wayyy wayyyy too easy". I've been wanting harder hunts too but I wouldn't assert there is no challenging content in the game

Even before TU1, people were absolutely carting to max strength Temp Gore. Obviously you learn it and make it less scary but I'll never pretend like it was always easy from the jump. Because that would be a lie

Difficulty is relative too, gotta keep that in mind. If you really believed there was no challenges at any point in the game you probably are either lying or have hundreds and hundreds of hours most players do not

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u/whosmansisthis24 2d ago

Nope, actually I've said multiple times that I suck at monster hunter really lol. I have never soloed furious Rajang or Raging Brach in world. Never beat Altreon or Fatalis even with teammates lol

I struggled and hit a wall in generations late game in which I never even completed all the content.

I was able to beat all of Rise no problems at all.

Like I said, I didn't say it in a rude, cocky or nasty way. Reddit is toxic and gaming subs are even more toxic.

Despite saying the game feels fantastic and explaining how many walls I've hit in many monster hunters people still got extremely angry with me. I actually went to edit the post you replied to because I realized I didint include how I'm not even good at Monster Hunter lol.

That's a huge part of the fun for me though is having something to work towards. I don't wanna destroy every monster in 8 minutes and not even need consumables or upgraded current rarity gear.

I'm absolutely not lying at all. All the content in base game was way way too easy. I do have hundreds of hours in monster hunter. I have been playing since the very first one released, but like I said, I have NEVER been good and have often hit walls I was never able to beat and have had MANY monster hunters I was never able to finish because I'm ass at the games. I would go as far as to say that the hardest hunts in Wilds are only 1/2 as hard as high rank in Rise base game

All of this with rarity 4 armor, no build, one max weapon and only one other mostly max upgraded weapon, no armor spheres. Like I said, I never even ended up making a build. There was just no point when the game plays itself.

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u/Driftbye 2d ago

They really cant figure out that the point of wanting hard fights is to get fucking rekt.

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u/ArkhaosZero DB | LS | SnS | GS | Lance 2d ago

Yeah, you can tell OP takes personal offense to those complaints, because they're taking "Wilds is too easy" as some sort of permanent, unchangeable mark levied against the game's identity.
Like, obviously if hard fights were added, those complaints would stop. That's the whole damn point, it wouldn't be "proving anyone wrong" like this lame meme seems to imply lol..

Luckily, judging based off people's reactions, Tempered Mizu and Zoh Shia may indeed be ramping up the challenge. Certainly excited to hop into that.

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u/GigarandomNoodle 2d ago

i NEED tempered zoh shia bro

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u/realwarlock 2d ago

Arch tempered. You need arch tempered. Give us hell.

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u/GarboseGooseberry 2d ago

Arch Tempered Zoh Shia where, after killing it, it turns into actual Fatalis

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u/realwarlock 2d ago

Beautiful idea!

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u/Exoticbut 2d ago

I think what people are getting at is that this does reinforce the Monster Hunter cycle. Where the game releases easy, they complain it’s too easy, then the challenge comes in TUs and the complaints stop. It’s a response to those who thought Wilds will never be challenging or difficult.

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u/ForwardToNowhere Hunting since MH1 2d ago

I feel like Wilds has been objectively easier than every other previous title (aside from Rise maybe). The wound system is absolutely busted. We'll see if the game actually does feel difficult when harder fights are added, but I wouldn't be surprised if they still felt easier than previous iterations in past titles.

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u/boring_uni_alt 2d ago

For me it’s a complaint about the title update system as a whole. How shit is modern gaming that you can genuinely release an unfinished game which doesn’t live up to expectations but, it’s ok!!! Because, months after release, they’ve now added a small amount of adequate quests!!

Your comment doesn’t work for anything pre-world and that’s an issue because a lot of people who are complaining about this had the exact same complaints about world.

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u/Nevergettingalife 1d ago

I just wish we didn’t have to wait for tu and dlc for it to actually bring some heat

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u/SovereignNavae 2d ago

Exactly this. I can't wait for it to get really tough, I want to triple cart and then slowly progress and have the kill feel amazing. That is the high I'm chasing, that is the whole point :D

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u/TheLastPissBenderr 2d ago

The layout goes:

Person A: The difficulty is fine.

Person B: The game is too easy.

After TU1 drops-

Person A: Wow Zoh Shia is pretty hard. I failed the quest twice. He may be over-tuned.

Person B: Wow Zoh Shia is pretty hard. I really liked that fight, this is exactly what i asked for.

OP looking at Person A’s response, and ignoring the fact that there’s two different opinions regarding difficulty

OP: You asked for difficulty, stop complaining and contradicting yourself.

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u/LordKerm_ 2d ago

Prime Goomba fallacy example

It do be what redditors are best at