r/MurderedByWords Dec 11 '19

Murder Someone call an ambulance

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

I mean yeah, but the real criminals are those in power who have the authority to send crack into black communities and disproportionately send black folks to jail. The problem is people just blaming the average white person for these things when they most likely had nothing to do with it.

It’s a classic capitalist trick. Cause strife and conflict among the working class so we don’t rise up against them.

It’s the same thing with climate change — blame the average middle class guy slaving away 12 hours a day who needs to commute two hours to work rather than the corporations burning up the amazon and polluting the oceans.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

The majority of trump voters were white and studies showed they voted for him out of fear of losing race status...

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Ok let’s see these studies

Edit: imagine getting downvoted for just asking for sources...

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u/KindOfHardToSpell Dec 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

There’s nothing wrong with their comment. Attacking the tone instead of substance is a cheap ploy to discredit the comment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

He probably copy and pasted it from a comment he saved. I can't imagine someone acting so self-righteous from such an innocuous question.

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u/Gustafino Dec 11 '19

Interesting studies. But point shouldnt be if its good or bad. Point should be that white americans ARE losing their privileged status and rightfully fear it and act on it. Its basic human response to act on danger. Problem is that their lose isnt that big in compare to the gain of blacks, latinos etc. but that is something noone care to explain to them. Coz everyone who fear this, is just another racist not worth discussing. (this is generalization as fuck, but the rise of racism in last 10 years is proving my point to some extent.) I am so happy to live in normal society where race isnt factor when dealing with state institutions. USA have long way to go...

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Calm your vagina, I was just asking for sources, not your passive aggressive whining. Surprise surprise, I don’t disagree that Trump supporters might be partly motivated by racism and ignorance. Now piss off

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u/KindOfHardToSpell Dec 11 '19

I was actually taking a jab at the guy who replied to the other comment providing sources. But I'm glad to see you didn't get upset and defensive about it. Sensitive topic? Don't worry, its justs a simple confusion lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

My bad bra

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u/Why_U_Haff_To_Be_Mad Dec 11 '19

Lol, asks for studies, whines that they were mean when provided.

You poor baby.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Maybe pull the stick out of your ass first. What the fuck kind of response is that?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Ok cry baby

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Look if you're having a bad day why not take a break from the internet huh? The information is here for you to read. You asked for it. Read it or get some air bud.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

Dude I agree with the information, and I’m having a great day. Learn to fucking read my guy

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '19

These aren't verifiable studies with hard facts.

These are opinion pieces written by social "scientists" who have come to a conclusion based on... whatever they believe.

They group an entire group of voters together and then slap a gigantic label on them and proclaim "SEE, I TOLD YOU THEY WERE ALL RACIST!!"

I mean, be reasonable, does that even really sound plausible, let alone possible? Think about the white people you know that voted Trump (if you know any) - are they racist? Was their vote racially motivated?

I went through every one of those studies and read the ones that were available, and their sources. The sources, btw, are just more social scientists coming to their own conclusions from selected data. For example, in one study there is a "temperature" rating for feelings voters have about other races, and left out of the analysis is that Clinton and Obama voters follow the same trend that Trump voters do, except in different amounts. For example, liberal voters feelings towards Muslims and undocumented immigrants dropped significantly, but no conclusions were drawn from that about racism or anti-immigration. He then takes these selected numbers and lumps them together and calls them "racial resentment". And as I said before, they are taking a minority and applying their made up label to the majority. Also, the author Sean McElwee - and this is from google btw - is an "American LEFT WING ACTIVIST and data scientist." This is the guy who other authors are basing their own research on. Do you see the conflict of interest? Do you see the circle jerk?

Look, if you're wielding a hammer the world is suddenly going to be filled with nails. I have no doubt that there is existential anxiety among (some) white folks regarding their place in society, and most probably don't even realize it. But to come out and label 50% of white America as voting Trump because they're racist, WHICH IS WHAT ALL THIS BULLSHIT IS BASICALLY TRYING TO SAY, is more "us vs them" political rhetoric.

I refuse to believe in the America that the media and far left and right are trying to sell us. 95% of us are good people with good hearts and good intentions. Yeah, we might get sideways and fucked up sometimes, just like brothers and sisters in a family do sometimes, but this xenophobic bullshit - this "either you're with us or you're against us" bullshit - has got to stop.

Stop being manipulated. Do the actual research. Learn who the sources are. Question everything, even if it provides you with confirmation (bias.)