r/agedlikemilk 19h ago

Curdled.

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u/Airway 19h ago

Exactly right. He basically said "I was wrong because Trump is acting different now, who could have seen it coming?"

When in reality he was wrong because he's stupid and it was easy to see this coming.

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u/antenonjohs 19h ago

I hate Trump just as much as everyone else, but I like to take these things at face value. He’s not implying “who could have seen it coming?” He admits he was wrong, simple as that.

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u/Blubasur 18h ago

I wish people took trump at face value. No one should have assumed he was lying about anything until he proved otherwise…

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u/naryfo 18h ago

I mean he lies a lot and plays both sides but yeah this wasn't a surprise to anyone who isn't obsequious towards a party.

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u/Blubasur 18h ago

Doesn’t matter that he does. He should be taken at face value. If he says things that look like he is planning to commit voter fraud, force a 3rd term, do stupid shit like tariffs. It should have been taken at face value, even if he genuinely never would have done it.

We shouldn’t be voting for people like that, hard stop. They shouldn’t even be allowed in politics.

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u/naryfo 18h ago

It does matter. I can tell you many examples of policy issues that he has said he would do and hasn't.

He should be taken seriously, but not everything he says should be. He only talks in hyperbole anyway. You can't take that at face value.

Even when he says he is going to tarrif as his economic policy, he lies about why. So again, you can't take everything at face value.

I understand this might be pedantic, but nuance exists in politics and is important.

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u/Blubasur 17h ago

If you can’t take them at face value, they can’t be trusted, which means he shouldn’t be in the goddamn seat he is in right now.

I’m all for nuance but I’m not a goddamn mind reader. I either have to trust what he says or not. It is pretty pointless and in fact stupid to try and decipher if someone in politics is lying about specific topics. A politician you can’t trust, is not someone who should be in power, simple as that.

And I know, I know, that eliminates about 90% of them if were being generous. Well thats the problem isn’t it?

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u/naryfo 17h ago

I was arguing whether his words should always be taken at face value, not whether he should be president, or if you could read minds.

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u/mrbadxampl 16h ago

"he lies a lot" means it's a good idea to vote for him?

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u/naryfo 16h ago

No. Meaning he can't always be taken at face value.

I despise and detest the man and would never recommend anyone vote for him.