r/interestingasfuck • u/Red_Lotus_Alchemist • 2d ago

/r/all A Chinese earthquake rescue team deployed drones to light up the night and aid search and rescue operations after the devastating 7.7 magnitude earthquake in Myanmar.

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u/BreathInTheWorld 2d ago

They really are hey, an authoritarian political system that has improved the lives of over one billion people. Yet our 'democracy' slides backwards in every way.

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u/arquillion 1d ago

I mean it has its downsides namely freedom of speech and individual rights. Ultimately it seems like they actually worry about the well being of the country as a whole but that's wholy dependant on the good will of a few powerful people. Something that historically speaking hasn't ended well

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u/BreathInTheWorld 1d ago

downsides namely freedom of speech and individual rights.

Yeah, Can't argue with that.

wholy dependant on the good will of a few powerful people.

The same is said for Democratic governments. Corruption is easily hidden within. Whereas authoritarian have few people held to account, when they fail a coup will ensue or the people rally.

Look up the authoritarian leader Lee Kuan Yew. He did amazing things for singapore, set that country up from dirt swamps to the amazing place it is.

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u/arquillion 1d ago

Democratic governments aren't immune to that it's just slower since there's more people, you need to bend the system a bit every election. It helps if the system is shit and people don't pay attention. That extra time is buffer to react.

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u/Anon_be_thy_name 2d ago

Let's not act like they aren't doing horrible shit.

What they're doing to Muslims in their own country(which is a genocide, they are also using them for human experimentation), what happened to Hong Kong, the constant amount of issues they cause in the South China Sea because they claim every island, their constant threats to Taiwan, Tibet. It's a really long list and that's just the basic things I can think of off the top of my head. If you do a deep dive you'll discover that while they do some good in the world, they do so much worse.

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u/Elastichedgehog 2d ago

You're correct.

Still, throwing stones in glass houses and all that.

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u/Maleficent_Match3368 2d ago

Casually forgetting the U.S. does substantially worse and for centuries, with no sign of it ending, and even encourages it.

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u/Maleficent_Match3368 2d ago

I'm American from Hawaii.

The United States kills far more people yearly while still perpetuating genocide on Native Americans, Native Hawaiians, and Palestinians.

This needs to stop.

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u/Sukhoimekniutz 2d ago

No, no, and they voted for hamas that dragged them into yet another war they were destined to lose.

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u/photochadsupremacist 2d ago

"Actually, the residents of the largest concentration camp in history voted for a group I don't like so they deserve to be genocided"

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u/HisDismalEquivalent 2d ago

the last time there was an election in gaza was like in 2006.

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u/Sukhoimekniutz 2d ago

In the election they voted Hama into office, and following oct 7th, the majority supported their actions. So yes, they voted for their current leaders who dragged them into yet another way they could never have hoped to win.

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u/Elastichedgehog 2d ago

You probably would vote for the local armed resistance (yes, they're designated terrorists) too if you lived in Gaza.

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u/gunnamo 2d ago

americans voted for 9/11 then

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u/Sukhoimekniutz 2d ago

Look, our very own 9/11 conspiracy theorist.

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u/Fletcher_StrongESQ 2d ago

Literal genocide according to US propaganda

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u/StickiStickman 2d ago

China is literally committing genocide”

According to the US and oddly enough there's absolutely no evidence for it whatsoever.

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u/TekRabbit 2d ago

Casual whataboutism bc you can’t point out chinas flaws without it apparently

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u/Maleficent_Match3368 2d ago

What about your what about though

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u/Anon_be_thy_name 2d ago

When did I say any of that? When did I excuse any of that?

Please point to the part in my comment where I said these words that you just put into my mouth and claimed I said.

I don't excuse any countries shitty behaviour.

Whataboutism. Look it up.

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u/Donkey_Rancher 2d ago

America has done it for centuries? China has done it for millennia and the US isn't even 3 centuries old

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u/aPrussianBot 2d ago

they are also using them for human experimentation

I swear people pull more and more unsourced wild shit out of their ass every time this claim comes up

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u/ErlendPistolbrett 2d ago

He could be referring to the DNA phenotyping thing, or perhaps he's referring to the brainwashing of children Uyghurs in camps. Both of them are mostly only in relation to Uyghurs, and could be considered human experimenting, and are unethical. All of this is also true, as claimed by not only USA, but countless other countries. I do however agree he could have formulated his meaning more clearly about what "human experiments" are as to not create confusion. This satellite map site shows all the different sites where Uyghurs are held/used, and what their purpose are: https://xjdp.aspi.org.au/map/?marker=3463

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u/Sad-Hovercraft541 2d ago

What's the source for your claims of genocide and human experimentation?

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u/diegoasecas 2d ago

their asses

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u/carimja 2d ago

human experimentation??? What they're doing to muslims?? they serve halal meals in every university canteen, there are several Islam-practicing minorities that are free to practice their religion without being hate-crimed, China has more than 10x the amount of mosques than America. There is no genocide, just deradicalisation after terrorist stabbings and bombings, and the Uyghur population has only been increasing.

least brain-washed american lmfao

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u/theactiveaccount 2d ago

Oh I'm interested in reading about this, can you share a link?

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u/TrumpDesWillens 2d ago

Here you go, you can literally buy a flight from NYC to there if you wanted to check the place out. Nobody is stopping you from fact-finding:

https://www.kayak.com/flights/NYC-URC/2025-05-01?ucs=19m6tl0

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u/Not_a_real_ghost 2d ago

I love it that on the internet, people still claim Muslims are being mistreated in China. There are so many sources available online now that tells you otherwise. Ever wondered why not 1 single Muslim country is speaking out against China on this? Because this is a Western propaganda.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 2d ago
  1. America hates nazis
  2. America hates communism
  3. America hates organized crime
  4. America hates muslims
  5. America hates chinese
  6. goto 1

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u/callisstaa 2d ago

It used to be ‘oh Muslims are all just savages who don’t care if their friends die’ but then pretty much every Muslim nation is united in their support for Palestine so I guess that one was a pile of shit.

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u/DaggumTarHeels 2d ago

I personally know a few Uighurs, you need to stop lying.

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u/Informal_Bunch_2737 1d ago

While the USA is actively deporting random people to a South American Max Prison and killed 50 civilians last week.

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u/Anon_be_thy_name 2d ago

Provide proof, a source, anything, that proves it's propaganda.

Because a few Muslim countries have and a quick search online would tell you that.

It's funny, the only people I've seen claim that it's propaganda always repeat the same thing you've just said though.

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u/Objective-Friend2636 2d ago

burden of proof is on you buddy, should be easy as hell if it's true, just look at all the evidence in palestine of a real genocide. or go there yourself and record it, you dont even need a passport to visit and the region loves tourists. must be weird that the only widely circulated evidence is picture that turned out to be an anti-drug psa and the wildly extrapolative work of the crackpot cia asset zenz.

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u/callisstaa 2d ago

I live in China and have visited Xinjiang many times, it’s a very popular tourist destination as it is mountainous and great for skiing. Alatai has a lot of resorts and Urumqi is always worth a visit even if just for the cuisine.

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u/photosendtrain 2d ago

You do realize China doesn't deny that it has reeducation camps? The argument is whether those camps are concentration camps or not.

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u/Alternative-Mix7288 2d ago

U.S. has concentration camps, had em for the Japanese during the war.. but now we have proper torture camps, Guantanamo and El Salvador.

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u/Not_a_real_ghost 2d ago

Your Western mainstream media no longer even reports on this crap because everyone knows it's not true.

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u/TekRabbit 2d ago

You mean multiple Muslim countries? lol.

Of course you don’t because you believe the actual propaganda.

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u/Not_a_real_ghost 2d ago

Oh yeah? which ones?

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u/apple_kicks 2d ago

Im sure people upset about destruction of centuries old mosques in china were able to freely complain or debate about it beforehand

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u/SassySerpents 2d ago

I can't speak for other mosques taken down because I simply don't know, but the one near my aunts in Urumqi was bulldozed because it was centuries old, literally falling apart and a huge health hazard. Months later and there is now a new mosque in it's exact place. Guess which part of the story western media focused on and which part they deliberately left out. 

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u/apple_kicks 2d ago

Are there any websites or articles about the new mosque? Most i heard were converted to secular use and no worship happens anymore

I get this news from humans rights orgs

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u/Not_a_real_ghost 2d ago

You can access the plethora of videos of Youtubers visiting Xinjiang once China went visaless for western tourists, and those Youtubers specifically went to "investigate" how the Muslims are living there.

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u/apple_kicks 2d ago

I trust human rights orgs more, too many influencers get invited or paid trips that aren’t impartial and tourists even on their own aren’t really good points of view for countries like quality journalists or human rights lawyers. Like i could visit US but not get day to day struggles or legal issues because tourism isnt good objectives look

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u/1337498124819 2d ago

They don’t speak out because they’re imprisoned and being „re-educated“ or their organs are being harvested in Chinese hospitals. Stop lying.

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u/Not_a_real_ghost 2d ago

Stop parroting this false narrative. All the sources of your claim came from 1 place.

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u/Odd_Round6270 2d ago

Adrian Zenz...a guy who has never been to China. Lol.

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u/Amaz_the_savage 2d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

No Muslim country is speaking out because

A: They aren't even aware it's happening

B: China is a significant connection for nearly every country except the US and India. Bringing it up would hurt those relations.

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u/really_nice_guy_ 2d ago

Ever wondered why not 1 single Muslim country is speaking out against China on this? Because this is a Western propaganda.

Because they care more about profits than about foreign people who have the same religion

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u/CharonNixHydra 2d ago

They haven't fought in a war since I've been alive and I'm 47 years old.

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u/Sukhoimekniutz 2d ago edited 2d ago

Well, they're about to start one with Taiwan, so you have that to look forward to.

Give me more downvotes, its funny that you can't accept china's own words.

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u/847RandomNumbers345 2d ago edited 2d ago

They are doing some bad stuff to their Uyghurs population? Yes, but I don't know to what extent, and I know that even the worse accusations aren't saying they are massacring them. American can't say the same about the million plus people they killed when they invaded Iraq on false premises, and their support of the endless destruction of Palestine, which I can visually see with pictures of the endless destroyed residential buildings and endless aid workers killed.

what happened to Hong Kong

During the Hong Kong protests, when browsing the news, I had to scroll past articles about American cops murdering their own citizens, to read posts about how Hong Kong citizens were worried they might be the victim of police abuse, and how a HK rioter who attacked a cop with a pipe... was shot once in the leg. JFC I wish I had those people as cops here in the USA.

their constant threats to Taiwan, Tibet.

They make ominous threats to those countries. America makes direct threats to other countries and will invade and kill MANY, as mentioned with Iraq.

There's lots of stuff I can praise America for. But having befriended Chinese citizens on Discord (who admittedly have to use VPNs), I don't believe America is in a state where they can talk down to China. If a country has an issue with China, they don't have to worry about having their people airstriked and massacred.

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u/straightcurvecircle 2d ago

Stop it with this Muslim genocide/ mistreatment bullshit, you have no idea what's going on there. There are more than one Muslim ethnic minority. China has the largest Halal supermarket in the world and has the most variety of Halal food products. In areas of strong ethinic minorities, all official signage must be bilingual.

So, what do you say to Taiwan when they also claim the islands the PRC claims? The claims are rooted in a historical nature. By the way, Taiwan also claims Mongolia.

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u/username7 2d ago

Sorry bro, that is all propaganda.

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u/DaredevilMattt 1d ago

+1000000 credit point

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u/username7 1d ago

Reddit kharma is more real than chinese social credit

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago

America killed a million people over in Iraq.

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u/Anon_be_thy_name 2d ago

Okay? Does that excuse China committing Genocide? Does that mean it's okay for them to bully and threaten every nation who has an island in the South East China Sea?

Fucking whataboutism.

I'm also not American so I don't really excuse the shitty things they've done either. In fact I don't excuse the shitty things any country has done.

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago edited 2d ago

How should China deal with Uyghur terrorism?

It doesn’t matter if you’re not American but how come you never bring this shit up with them?

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u/Anon_be_thy_name 2d ago

So because a couple of people have performed acts of terrorism, that makes it okay to use them for human testing and commit genocide? So we should just condemn every single one of them because of that?

I don't even know what you're trying to say with the 2nd part of your comment.

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago

Oh ok we’re just going to let terrorism happen lmao good one.

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u/Anon_be_thy_name 2d ago

Whataboutism.

So by your logic then the US was okay to go into the Middle East and kill all of those millions of people because of Terroism. Got it.

Good to know that in your mind genocide is perfectly okay.

Tell me, what is your opinion on Winnie the Poo, oh sorry I meant Xi Jinping?

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

Nice whataboutism. You got a response to any of the points listed above?

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago

Nice deflection lol. Americans get to kill Muslims but judge those who lock them up.

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

Nice projection. You're deflecting from the original point - which, by the way, is about an ongoing atrocity - by bringing up a past event that is widely recognized as a mistake and, increasingly, as an atrocity, even within the United States.

We know that we fucked up. The fact that you're defending this proves that you don't.

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago

Every time China does something positive like helping the Myanmar earthquake victims which the US isn’t you people always to bring this shit up. It’s like clockwork. Hope the CIA pays you well.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/china-cold-war-2669160202/

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

Funny you should mention that. I gave credit to the Chinese for this exact sort of aid in a comment mere minutes earlier. Because, yes, they can do some good shit. They're also still stirring trouble over territory that isn't theirs, still violating human rights, and still committing genocide. These two things can be true at the same time - the world isn't all black and white.

I hope the CCP pays you well.

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago

I think it’s great that China is helping the Myanmar victims and are getting positive PR which angers you.

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

No, no it doesn't. I just said that I'm glad that they're helping and I'm more than happy to say as much. That doesn't make their crimes any better.

As I said, the world isn't all black-and-white.

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u/IncongruousTr1angle 2d ago

u know the company that built that structure was chinese and it was supposedly built to withstand 8.0 magnitude earthquakes. And im not saying Chinese infrastructure companies like to cut corners but… they definitely cut corners, china has killed thousands because of this negligence.

Democracy is super important, ill take the fucked up shit we have going on here over chinas autocracy any day.

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 2d ago

Why didn’t all the Chinese buildings in Thailand all go down?

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u/IncongruousTr1angle 2d ago

The grace of god

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u/Maleficent_Match3368 2d ago

Nice deflection.

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

Bad bot. Read the rest of the argument next time - I addressed this exact point.

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u/Maleficent_Match3368 2d ago

Bad bot. Keep defending warmongering, imperialism, Western genocide, legacy colonialism, and defending all of that.

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

Never defended any of that, but go off. Have fun defending your genocide.

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u/Sukhoimekniutz 2d ago

No, they didn't. This claim is hilarious how it gets brought up every time.

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u/AlstottUpDaGutt 1d ago

China never locked up the Uyghurs this claim is hilarious how it gets brought up every time.

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u/Normal-Platform872 2d ago

Anti-Chinese propaganda really did it's way with you huh.

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u/mopediwaLimpopo 2d ago

What about the horrible shit America does? Should that be brought up everytime something good comes up.

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u/Fletcher_StrongESQ 2d ago

Lol propaganda

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u/DeathByLemmings 2d ago

You're a kid that has literally fallen to Russian propaganda. Your comment history is hilarious

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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive 2d ago

His post history is wild, Russosimp to put it lightly

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u/DeathByLemmings 2d ago

Tankies for Trump vibes lmao

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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive 2d ago

You're doing the lord's work lmao

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u/Fletcher_StrongESQ 2d ago

Sure, cry harder please

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u/DeathByLemmings 2d ago

Lol that doesn't even make sense lad

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u/Jealous_Priority_228 2d ago

It's scary how the accusations of propaganda when you mention the 2 million Uighur Muslim genocide in China are increasing on this site.

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u/Fletcher_StrongESQ 2d ago

Lol two million, only the US and its puppets make such claims

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u/Jealous_Priority_228 2d ago

Goodbye, shill.

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u/IncongruousTr1angle 2d ago

The amount of Anti-China vs Pro-China propaganda is ridiculous. The entire CCP is based on lies.

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u/travel_posts 2d ago

half of that isnt even true. you fell for falon gong propaganda. i love how westerners need to lie about china to even achieve the "both sides are equally bad" cope.

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u/CPterp 1d ago

>What they're doing to Muslims in their own country(which is a genocide, they are also using them for human experimentation),

There is less than zero evidence to support this. The US, UN, and every Muslim majority country agree that there is no genocide, and certainty no human experimentation.

China is leagues ahead of the West in terms of human rights, quality of life, social services, etc. The exorbitant amount of hate China gets online is insane.

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u/R-deadmemes 1d ago

Half of it is just bullshit. The other half is correct, but as someone else said, you're throwing stones from a glass house.

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u/moon_soil 2d ago edited 2d ago

in every video where china shows a display of cutting edge technology that can help our quality of life, I just expect to have to comment something like "but china bad, hey?"

The proud democratic country of US of fucking A has committed just as much if not worse human rights violations, but they're not seen as the 'enemy' because...? (blonde and white? jk jk) No country is 100% good, and we know why China is bad. What's your goal of commenting this?

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u/NotNeverdnim 2d ago

Who's gonna tell him?

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u/IncongruousTr1angle 2d ago

Shitting on democracy is crazy 😂. I am so happy we dont share the same perspective on the world.

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u/broseph4555 2d ago

I think he's just saying american democracy is 'democracy' which is true.

Democracy is a great idea when inplemented well.

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u/Kangaroo-Quick 2d ago

There it is! I made it five whole comments into the comment section before the sinophobic bullshit started.

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u/847RandomNumbers345 2d ago

Yeah, I have Chinese friends on Discord. They have to use a VPN to talk to us, but even knowing everything they can about China and the rest of the world, they still have faith in the Chinese government to improve their lives.

They are aware of the government's short comings, but their lives have only improved under the strict government.

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u/Alternative-Mix7288 2d ago

So uh, the American government sorta feels a bit authoritarian these days. All the negatives w/o the positive of China. I dare say our country is even more authoritarian atm.. I don't recall China having concentrations torture camps.

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u/BeckBristow89 1d ago

A big fundamental difference is that American politics last like 4-8 years and so it’s hard to implement long term solutions when it requires funding and commitment across multiple legislative cycles. This also isn’t just dem vs republicans it happens inter-party as well.

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u/Thegamebeast17 2d ago

Oh yea really improving the lives of all those child slaves. Got to love the concentration camps too

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u/Lmitation 2d ago

decade old propaganda isn't so effective when the USA is literally sending their legal immigrants to concentration camps while having made zero progress on infrastructure for the last 20 years, but yea china bad

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u/TinyBomber 2d ago

What kind of whataboutism is this? So China and the USA cant both be bad for sending people to concentration camps?

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u/Lmitation 2d ago

Reddit only cares when China bad

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u/Thegamebeast17 1d ago

Yea man cuz both places cant have shity stuff going on

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u/SecureDonkey 2d ago

Bro, part of those billion people live in porverty and/or slavery. Just because China is communist doesn't mean everyone was treated equally.

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u/arctheus 2d ago

Ah yes, if it’s off camera it doesn’t exist

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u/VegisamalZero3 2d ago

To the credit of the Chinese, they do genuinely do a lot of good through foreign aid like this. It's usually (always) done with an ulterior motive, but frankly, what isn't.

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u/somersault_dolphin 2d ago

There are democracies outside the US. Also guess what, it wouldn't have slide backward so much worldwide if not for the authoritarian countries interferences. This is also China where saving face to outsiders still hold importance to show their dominance. Guess what happens when the idea of saving face isn't needed because there's no competitors and backlash?

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u/nutitoo 2d ago

If you think that china is any better than america then i have bad news for you